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#77 Mar 06 2013 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
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The scanners at my old S&S were horrible, but when the new store opened up across the street the scanners were...well, somewhat better working.
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#78 Mar 06 2013 at 10:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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I get the feeling you haven't seen just how crappy and useless the machines are, and how they've not improved in any way, shape or form at all over the years they have been in use.

I don't spend a great deal of time in Walmart, it's true. However, let's stipulate what you say is entirely accurate. What's your theory as to why they would continue to purchase and use the machines? Stupidity? The world's largest retailer just likes to lose money and can't do an elementary cost benefit analysis?

Smash. I can't believe you just said that.

Twenty years of adult experience has taught me that most corporations will constantly make decisions that will gain them $1 million now and lose them $2 million a year and every year hereafter.

Why they stay in business, and even continue to improve profits for a while, despite all these idiotic short-term decisions, is a long elaborate discussion I don't have the energy for. But it doesn't surprise me that a @#%^ton of businesses go bankrupt/lose profits over years and years while the GFC works its way through the system. The GFC and its repurcussions have taken away a lot of the props and dubious/unsavoury compensationary measurements for entrenched corporate idiocy.

Edited, Mar 6th 2013 11:14pm by Aripyanfar
#79 Mar 06 2013 at 10:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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I had a manager say to us once that our store lost $1.4 million in customers "under ringing" themselves that year. $1.4 million in one year is enough to pay hundreds of real cashiers their sh*tty minimum wage.
Your anecdotal story is lovely, but lacks the counter-factual data about shrinkage from human cashier error, which is MASSIVE. The machines are going to get better at finding it, the people, well, aren't.

I (I !) find your faith in humanity and the extent of the deleterious effects of the US welfare system to be touchingly naive. Against your human cashier error, which I will well believe is MASSIVE, I pit human greed/desperation and the ingenuity and lengths most of us will go to when left with what is in practise an honour system of choosing to pay for all your goods or not.
#80 Mar 06 2013 at 11:15 PM Rating: Good
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Aripyanfar wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
I get the feeling you haven't seen just how crappy and useless the machines are, and how they've not improved in any way, shape or form at all over the years they have been in use.

I don't spend a great deal of time in Walmart, it's true. However, let's stipulate what you say is entirely accurate. What's your theory as to why they would continue to purchase and use the machines? Stupidity? The world's largest retailer just likes to lose money and can't do an elementary cost benefit analysis?

Smash. I can't believe you just said that.

Twenty years of adult experience has taught me that most corporations will constantly make decisions that will gain them $1 million now and lose them $2 million a year and every year hereafter.

Why they stay in business, and even continue to improve profits for a while, despite all these idiotic short-term decisions, is a long elaborate discussion I don't have the energy for. But it doesn't surprise me that a @#%^ton of businesses go bankrupt/lose profits over years and years while the GFC works its way through the system. The GFC and its repurcussions have taken away a lot of the props and dubious/unsavoury compensationary measurements for entrenched corporate idiocy.

Edited, Mar 6th 2013 11:14pm by Aripyanfar


Typically those 'poor decisions' are good decisions for the decider. It means the ownership doesn't know how to manage. The Waltons tend to know basic management.
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#81 Mar 07 2013 at 5:03 AM Rating: Good
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Why would you not be able to get a checking account?

I think my bank account costs a massive €7.50 a year or so...


Mine costs at least that every month -.-
#82 Mar 07 2013 at 5:16 AM Rating: Good
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Seriously? Damn...
#83 Mar 07 2013 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
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Go credit union if you can. There are no fees on my accounts.
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#84 Mar 07 2013 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't bank with a credit union and only have to have a minimum of $250 deposited a month. No minimum to maintain either. Not sure on checks as I got one book and only used it to get direct deposit started at work and another blank check for refund.

Wally World only gets my money for my meds. I am diabetic and a single vial of insulin is $85. At Walmart the generic is $25. I worked there 9~ years ago. When I got my one year review, the manager made a mistake and so I would have gotten 4 cents more then what I was given by HR. When I asked about it he told me if I signed for $8.11 an hr then I would be paid. A few days later he was no longer employeed with us. I never saw my 4 cents. I was not worried bout it but thats ****** up practice.
#85 Mar 07 2013 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
I have a no frills checking account and a no frills savings account with Wells Fargo. I have no minimum balance for my checking, but I need to keep $300 in my savings or else they charge me a $5/month fee. I have a debit card and overdraft protection. If I need new checks, I have to purchase them.

It works out pretty well. My savings dropped under the minimum balance when I paid my tuition last December, and so I had to eat a $5 fine. Oh well.

#86 Mar 07 2013 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I need to keep $300 in my savings or else they charge me a $5/month fee.


Yeah I stopped banking with Wachovia years ago. I rarely have more then 100 in my checking by next pay period. I got bills and debt I am paying don't want or need to lose even $5 for you to maintain an account that gets $2000~ a month deposited.

When I closed my last account I had problems with a company kept hitting me up for random amounts. Asked them to freeze it so nothing came out and my next paycheck would cover what was owed. Was told they could not do that cause there was a negative balance. Wonder how long they kept it open until they figured out I switched banks the next day.
#87 Mar 07 2013 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Aripyanfar wrote:
Twenty years of adult experience has taught me that most corporations will constantly make decisions that will gain them $1 million now and lose them $2 million a year and every year hereafter.


My experience has taught me that you're almost certainly missing the biggest cost effects of those decisions and are wrong about the net cost/profit of those decisions. Not to say that corporations don't make dumb and even costly decisions, but "constantly" is a bit of a stretch.

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Why they stay in business, and even continue to improve profits for a while, despite all these idiotic short-term decisions, is a long elaborate discussion I don't have the energy for.


Absent long elaborate discussion, I'll guess that it's because what they're doing actually does increase their profits, but you think otherwise. But since they have access to the whole picture and you only one small part, I'm going to go with them being more likely to know what they're doing and why.
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#88 Mar 08 2013 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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But since they have access to the whole picture and you only one small part, I'm going to go with them being more likely to know what they're doing and why.

Since when?!
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#89 Mar 08 2013 at 3:57 PM Rating: Good
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Seriously? Damn...


OOOOOO Canada, your banks doth ***** us good.

IIRC -- I pay 12.50 for my monthly fee for my personal account and the same for my joint account.

And I have to buy checks if I want them, or I get charged 2 bucks each for counter checks.



Edited, Mar 8th 2013 1:59pm by Olorinus
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But since they have access to the whole picture and you only one small part, I'm going to go with them being more likely to know what they're doing and why.

Since when?!


Um... Since they actually have access to all the financial details of the companies they're running and you don't? Was that a trick question or something? Smiley: dubious
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#91 Mar 08 2013 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
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One of the fun things while working at Walmart, those handheld scanners show lots of infor about the products you scan. There's the normal stuff how many in inventory, how many in shipping,etc but they also have a spot showing how much Walmart paid for an item. I was always finding items that Walmart sold for 15 + yet cost like 3 dollars or less to buy.
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#92 Mar 08 2013 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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OOOOOO Canada, your banks doth ***** us good.

IIRC -- I pay 12.50 for my monthly fee for my personal account and the same for my joint account.

And I have to buy checks if I want them, or I get charged 2 bucks each for counter checks.


Seriously? You pay $12.50 per month per account? Are these like gold plated accounts or something? Do they come with strippers? That's crazy. I pay nothing for my accounts. If I do a direct online payment (a "push" instead of a "pull"), there's a few bucks fee associated with that. There's no cost for checks at all except like maybe $10 or whatever to buy a book of them (which is like 500 checks and lasts years and years). Why would you pay $2 per check at the counter? Similarly, things like cashiers checks are free. Account services are free. ATM use is free (as long as you use their ATM of course).

Is this the norm up there in hat-land?
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IIT: Gbaji thinks $12 is a good price for a stripper Smiley: wink2
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#94 Mar 08 2013 at 7:28 PM Rating: Good
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One of the fun things while working at Walmart, those handheld scanners show lots of infor about the products you scan. There's the normal stuff how many in inventory, how many in shipping,etc but they also have a spot showing how much Walmart paid for an item. I was always finding items that Walmart sold for 15 + yet cost like 3 dollars or less to buy.


That's actually pretty high for Walmart to be paying.
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IIT: Gbaji thinks $12 is a good price for a stripper Smiley: wink2


Hey. It was $12.50! And for two accounts, so that's $25. Per month! That's like two lap dances right there.
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Seriously? You pay $12.50 per month per account? Are these like gold plated accounts or something? Do they come with strippers? That's crazy. I pay nothing for my accounts

You should be making money on deposit based banking. "I pay nothing for the interest free loan I provide my bank!" isn't really the goal. I realize that's challenging if you have $50 in a checking account, but most people should be able generate some interest/"cash back" with minimal effort.
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#97 Mar 10 2013 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
We actually do have a gold plated checking and savings combo, the "crown checking" from BoA. We get it for free with our mortgage. It keeps our emergency fund and long term savings before it gets rolled into the IRA at the end of the year, because it's the only checking account we have that actually earns interest.

Our daily checking and savings accounts are free if we are careful, but we never keep enough in the short terms savings to get more than a penny or two in interest.
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Seriously? You pay $12.50 per month per account? Are these like gold plated accounts or something? Do they come with strippers? That's crazy. I pay nothing for my accounts

You should be making money on deposit based banking. "I pay nothing for the interest free loan I provide my bank!" isn't really the goal. I realize that's challenging if you have $50 in a checking account, but most people should be able generate some interest/"cash back" with minimal effort.


This.

You should also not be paying anything for use of consumer credit, but I'm told that for whatever reason "people" take loans for non investment purposes.
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OOOOOO Canada, your banks doth ***** us good.

IIRC -- I pay 12.50 for my monthly fee for my personal account and the same for my joint account.

And I have to buy checks if I want them, or I get charged 2 bucks each for counter checks.


Seriously? You pay $12.50 per month per account? Are these like gold plated accounts or something? Do they come with strippers? That's crazy. I pay nothing for my accounts. If I do a direct online payment (a "push" instead of a "pull"), there's a few bucks fee associated with that. There's no cost for checks at all except like maybe $10 or whatever to buy a book of them (which is like 500 checks and lasts years and years). Why would you pay $2 per check at the counter? Similarly, things like cashiers checks are free. Account services are free. ATM use is free (as long as you use their ATM of course).

Is this the norm up there in hat-land?


Getting ripped off by banks? Yes that's the norm up here.

If I want to buy a book of cheques it costs 50 bucks, we just moved recently (rendering my old checks useless) so we've been paying the 2 dollar counter check fee. It's stupid, but that is banking in Canada. I tried to open a credit union account and they rejected me because of my student loan debt (not joking) so I just stick with my crummy bank.

And no, it's not gold-plated. There is the option of the 4 dollar a month account but that comes with like 8 debits only, and then they start charging you a buck each or something. It's dumb.

Edited, Mar 11th 2013 11:42am by Olorinus
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Canadian banks are regulated far differently than in the states. They're not allowed to set you up for failure, like giving a sub-prime mortgage, but instead, get to rape your wallet every month, right before your eyes.
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#101 Mar 11 2013 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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If I want to buy a book of cheques it costs 50 bucks,
You should get checks instead. I understand they're half the price.
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