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#1 Feb 26 2013 at 11:39 AM Rating: Default
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EMP missile sort of.

This is scary stuff. This thing wipes out electronics.

People will look at this and say, AWESOME!!! non-lethal 100% effective. Here's the problem though, military forces can function without electronics, albeit at a lower effectiveness, modern civilian populations generally can't. We've become dependent on electronics for everything. This effectively being a non-lethal WMD could potentially send us back to the stone age in short order as its use will be treated as more acceptable than directly lethal options.

Now, imagine what would happen if say, New York suddenly lost all electronics, not a power outage, complete and permanent nullification of all of the electronic devices in the city. No cell phones, no radios, no sanitation, no transportation, nothing. *cough*
#2 Feb 26 2013 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Be glad it's an actual missile now and not a high altitude nuclear bomb detonation. I don't mind tech failure if it doesn't come with a free dosage of lethal radiation
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#3 Feb 26 2013 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm assuming they can aim it somehow? So it doesn't like destroy everything everywhere.

On the plus side this means my cellphone wouldn't work and I'd get some quiet time. No e-mail would be nice. Sequencing would take a step back to manual mode and that would suck, but I may be willing to put up with it.

Edited, Feb 26th 2013 10:01am by someproteinguy
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#4 Feb 26 2013 at 12:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Meh. Turning off the power in opposing countries has been a tactic for decades, and has never made war bloodless. So spending more money to do the same thing sounds pointless to me.
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#8 Feb 26 2013 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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Time enough at last.
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Meh. Turning off the power in opposing countries has been a tactic for decades, and has never made war bloodless. So spending more money to do the same thing sounds pointless to me.


No, it's actually a pretty useful tool. It allows for airspace control, since most Sukhois don't have sufficient shielding, and nondestructive grid dropping makes the cleanup cheaper.
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Cheaper for us? Then that's a legitimate reason. Cheaper for them? Don't care.
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You may have noticed we pay for the cleanup for own damage these days.
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Near the end usually. Most of the time shit we blow up multiple times is in the process of being repaired. Guess it comes down to just how significant the difference between clean up is, including the cost of the weapon systems and whatever other variable that comes up between start and finish. Doesn't seem so far and above better than the current fine carbon filament method.
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Well, one big monumental advantage here, and this is very situational, is that should the enemy choose to locate their radar / anti-aircraft systems in a populated area, we can strike with EMP devices with far less potential for collateral damage injured / dead civilians.

Edited, Feb 26th 2013 2:42pm by BrownDuck
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#14 Feb 26 2013 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
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This is scary stuff.

I'm curious. On a scale of 1 to 10, how afraid of you are of losing your life? On a scale of 1 to 10, how afraid are you of losing your livelihood?
#15 Feb 26 2013 at 3:57 PM Rating: Good
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I think he's more concerned about (1-10) losing civil society, and definitely concerned (1-10) about the impact losing all utilities would have on his life.


I lost two friends to an EMP three days ago. True Story.
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Well, one big monumental advantage here, and this is very situational, is that should the enemy choose to locate their radar / anti-aircraft systems in a populated area, we can strike with EMP devices with far less potential for collateral damage injured / dead civilians.
If their own government wants to use them as human shields, then they should get the **** out of the way. It's not like generators and radar arrays and such just appear overnight. As noble as reducing casualties is, it should be secondary to the safety of our own people.
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#17 Feb 27 2013 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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Like when there is a power-plant that powers a city, but also supplies power to enemy military assets?
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#18 Feb 27 2013 at 9:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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I thought that most of the people you guys throw bombs at barely have electricity anyway.
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This thing will wipe out HUNDREDS of my friends!

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I thought that most of the people you guys throw bombs at barely have electricity anyway.

They're the ones that you have to be most worried about. No electricity means no connection to the hive mind, and we can't have that.


Edited, Feb 27th 2013 9:33am by someproteinguy
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#21 Feb 27 2013 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
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Wait, you mean there's people who are not on Reddit?
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#22 Feb 27 2013 at 12:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just some savages, nothing to concern yourself with. They'll be gone once the drones arrive.
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#24 Feb 27 2013 at 12:51 PM Rating: Good
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You get used to it I guess.
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#25 Feb 28 2013 at 1:13 AM Rating: Good
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If their own government wants to use them as human shields, then they should get the **** out of the way. It's not like generators and radar arrays and such just appear overnight. As noble as reducing casualties is, it should be secondary to the safety of our own people.


How secondary? What exact value do you place on each set of lives?
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Personally? None on anyone outside my immediate circle, but I've probably got a few issues.
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