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#1 Feb 23 2013 at 4:51 PM Rating: Good
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Just watched the Playstation 4 reveal on Youtube. The system is looking bloody gorgeous, by the way, but then it came to the Square-Enix presentation.. I was completely and utterly mesmerized..

The fact that these guys had the audacity to show up on stage and show a year old tech demo was pretty appalling, but then, right when you think they are going to throw a bone and turn things up they instead simply bow out and ask you to wait til E3? Did it really take two executives to do all of that? This is the same Square-Enix that has managed to spew three iterations of FFXIII from their bowels before giving so much as a hit of a Versus XIII release date.. The same SE that launched an MMO so bad, that they had to annihilate the original game world and shut off its servers for an undetermined period of time..

So, the question begs to be asked. If Square-Enix served you a baby fetus, would they even bother to cook it? Or are you like me, and think that they really are so pompous and full of unworldly amounts of crap as to simply expect you to eat it and be happy? If you demanded that they cook said baby fetus, would they spit or pee in it before bringing it back to you? Inquiring minds want to know.
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#2 Feb 23 2013 at 4:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't see why you're so up in arms over it. Square has barely had a decent release in well over a decade.
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#3 Feb 23 2013 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't see why you're so up in arms over it. Square has barely had a decent release in well over a decade.


I suppose. It just irks me that they get so much of a limelight and even their spinoffs generate a lot of money while there are so many other developers out there really pushing the boundaries to make good games that go largely unnoticed. It just seems like such a shame.
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#4 Feb 23 2013 at 5:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Perhaps you should stop religiously buying their ****, then.
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#5 Feb 23 2013 at 7:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Perhaps you should stop religiously buying their sh*t, then.


I'll admit, I preordered XIII and XIV. Only played XIV for about a month (and barely, the game was unplayable). XIII-2 and 3, no way. Guess I've been getting weened off that teet throughout this console generation.

..and seriously, with games like Ni No Kuni leading the way, it is really clear that SE has lost their touch. It's not like I have lost my taste for JRPGs, nor have many many others. Square-Enix really is a disgrace to its former self.
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#6 Feb 23 2013 at 7:50 PM Rating: Good
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Well, they did take the criticisms of XIII and made XIII-2 a better game.

I don't know about Lightning Returns. I can't imagine them making it worse than XIII given the improvements seen in XIII-2.
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#7 Feb 23 2013 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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Well, they did take the criticisms of XIII and made XIII-2 a better game.
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#8 Feb 23 2013 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
Well, they did take the criticisms of XIII and made XIII-2 a better game.
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It does for a coprophiliac.
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#9 Feb 23 2013 at 8:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Two girls borrowed it.
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#11 Feb 23 2013 at 8:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Two girls borrowed it.


Vanille and Serah?
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#12 Feb 23 2013 at 8:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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lolgaxe wrote:
Two girls borrowed it.


Vanille Hope and Serah?


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lolgaxe wrote:
Two girls borrowed it.


Ew. lol

I was primarily annoyed with their announcement of the PS4 without even bothering to show us the device itself. Isn't that kind of a unofficial requirement of a product announcement? I mean, at least show us the prototype. :\
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lolgaxe wrote:
Two girls borrowed it.


One of the few times when I wish I could actually rate someone.....
#15 Feb 26 2013 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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sas148 wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Two girls borrowed it.


Ew. lol

I was primarily annoyed with their announcement of the PS4 without even bothering to show us the device itself. Isn't that kind of a unofficial requirement of a product announcement? I mean, at least show us the prototype. :\


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#16 Feb 26 2013 at 8:12 PM Rating: Default
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TirithRR wrote:
Well, they did take the criticisms of XIII and made XIII-2 a better game.

I don't know about Lightning Returns. I can't imagine them making it worse than XIII given the improvements seen in XIII-2.


I overlooked this..

I totally disagree. The everlasting problem facing SE is that the fan base wants contradicting things. XIII and XIII-2 are two different games progression wise. Granted, the beginning of XIII was "boring" and linear, but as soon as the open world became available, it was much more fun than the "Easter egg hunt" in XIII-2.

I like having options, but I don't like the format of doing various unknown quests to progress. I like the story to move me along. I like options, but throw me a bone in the story line.
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I do like the time line, alternate worlds, type system though. It makes for interesting game play. Though I do remember early on, when I first get to choose a path, hopping between a couple places and almost feeling like I was watching a story out of sequence and second guessing myself constantly on which way I should be going.

But when I posted that, I looked up Lightning's Return...
Seems like they went all Majora's Mask on the game. Not sure if I like that. I don't like feeling rushed in a JRPG. Time limits go against my want to explore every nook and cranny of the World. Reason why I never finished Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter. Even though I enjoyed the idea, and even enjoyed the reasoning behind the main character using his powers so much that he completely awakens and loses his humanity... I didn't like being limited in that way.

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I just realized this topic is in =4. What's up with that?

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I do like the time line, alternate worlds, type system though. It makes for interesting game play.


That's the thing though, not everyone do, so SE is screwed either way.
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#20 Mar 01 2013 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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#21 Mar 01 2013 at 11:11 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
Tirith wrote:
I do like the time line, alternate worlds, type system though. It makes for interesting game play.


That's the thing though, not everyone do, so SE is screwed either way.

They have the choice to develop two different game franchises, with similar overall art feel and story archetypes, but with two different, distinct types of game play. Heck, to save costs, they could do exactly the same world and story, but put out sandbox and time limit versions. One could be called: FFXX Classic, and the other could be FFXX Full Throttle, or FFXX Challenge, or FFXX Power Play, or something else manly and ADD.
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Aripyanfar wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Tirith wrote:
I do like the time line, alternate worlds, type system though. It makes for interesting game play.


That's the thing though, not everyone do, so SE is screwed either way.

They have the choice to develop two different game franchises, with similar overall art feel and story archetypes, but with two different, distinct types of game play. Heck, to save costs, they could do exactly the same world and story, but put out sandbox and time limit versions. One could be called: FFXX Classic, and the other could be FFXX Full Throttle, or FFXX Challenge, or FFXX Power Play, or something else manly and ADD.


Yes, while everyone will be pleased by a certain version, they will ridicule the opposite version. I like the changes, it keeps the series alive and not a "Madden" upgrade, but a totally different game and feel.


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#23 Mar 02 2013 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
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Or...

They stop listening to the fans and critics who beg for 'new' and give them FF6, 7, 10, with new character names and clothes every other year...
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Sometimes I don't get them. I mean, how much would it cost to develop a FF7 HD overhaul? I'm sure it wouldn't cost quite as much as developing the next FF game, and it would be all but guaranteed to sell ridiculously well. It's not something that I'm necessarily interested in, but it seems like it's such a no-brainer moneymaker.
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TirithRR wrote:
Or...

They stop listening to the fans and critics who beg for 'new' and give them FF6, 7, 10, with new character names and clothes every other year...


That's the LAST thing that I want. That's on the same level as charging for DLC on the debut of a game. I want new content, not just the same game in a different color. With that, I accept the fact that I may not like some games as others. Personally, FF8 and FF10 are my favorites. I would rather play 9 over 7. 7 is good, but is overly hyped. Overall, I like that latter games are different games.

I also like the "-2" series of games, that allows us to continue a story. I just haven't seen it played out well.
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Sometimes I don't get them. I mean, how much would it cost to develop a FF7 HD overhaul? I'm sure it wouldn't cost quite as much as developing the next FF game, and it would be all but guaranteed to sell ridiculously well. It's not something that I'm necessarily interested in, but it seems like it's such a no-brainer moneymaker.

There's plenty of articles and interviews floating around that indicate that no, remaking FF7 actually would cost astronomically more than making whatever the next modern FF is and that it would also yield nothing but financial ruin for the company.
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