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#27 Feb 10 2013 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess the Federal Reserves own website is full of lies then.

Hi. Don't do this. I'm going to ignore the rest of your post. I understand *exactly* how the Fed works. You do not. It's ok. You don't have to be a pretend expert on everything because you look up basic information via google. *golf clap*

I understand how the shareholder system works, how accountability works within that system, how monetary policy is derived, how the open market committee meetings work. All of it. It's confusing. It's somewhat intentionally obfuscated, which I understand is scary. But, while a nefarious broken conspiracy of the powerful elite would also be intentionally obfuscated, that's not what the Fed is. Really. It's just a weird central bank in the same way that the electoral college is a weird way to elect a president. Not calculated trickery or opaque abuse of power, just weird. "Reforming" the fed to make it more like, say, the ECB would accomplish virtually nothing, and very likely be quite harmful to the economy.

With the Fed Paul is just preying on the human weakness for xenophobia. You don't understand how it works, it's hard to come to an understanding of it, so isn't much more comforting to just assume there must be something wrong there? It's the Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy people, the 911 Truth people, it's all the same. Fear of something they can't understand. Don't be afraid of the Fed. There are enough legitimate things to be terrified of in human existence, like driving in a motor vehicle, without inventing extra ones.
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#28 Feb 11 2013 at 4:29 AM Rating: Good
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No-one wants or needs a bank more like the ECB.

Apart from Zimbabwe, maybe. They could do with some Germans droning about inflation.
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#29 Feb 11 2013 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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I guess the Federal Reserves own website is full of lies then.

Hi. Don't do this. I'm going to ignore the rest of your post. I understand *exactly* how the Fed works. You do not. It's ok. You don't have to be a pretend expert on everything because you look up basic information via google. *golf clap*

I understand how the shareholder system works, how accountability works within that system, how monetary policy is derived, how the open market committee meetings work. All of it. It's confusing. It's somewhat intentionally obfuscated, which I understand is scary. But, while a nefarious broken conspiracy of the powerful elite would also be intentionally obfuscated, that's not what the Fed is. Really. It's just a weird central bank in the same way that the electoral college is a weird way to elect a president. Not calculated trickery or opaque abuse of power, just weird. "Reforming" the fed to make it more like, say, the ECB would accomplish virtually nothing, and very likely be quite harmful to the economy.

With the Fed Paul is just preying on the human weakness for xenophobia. You don't understand how it works, it's hard to come to an understanding of it, so isn't much more comforting to just assume there must be something wrong there? It's the Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy people, the 911 Truth people, it's all the same. Fear of something they can't understand. Don't be afraid of the Fed. There are enough legitimate things to be terrified of in human existence, like driving in a motor vehicle, without inventing extra ones.



Ya it is weird, doesn't change the fact for every dollar of debt issued and paid these PRIVATE banks make .0018 cents. As for the electoral college it is a weird way to abuse power, and most certainly is steeped in trickery and opaque abuse of power...unless you have never heard of gerrymandering. I agree there are worse things that people should be afraid of, but it doesn't change the fact that the Fed is a corrupt system, controlled in majority by knowingly corrupt holdings members. Beat around the bush all you want, the system is ****, and by design does not allow the US to ever escape debt, as debt is the only way for the US to generate money.
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#30 Feb 11 2013 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Ya it is weird, doesn't change the fact for every dollar of debt issued and paid these PRIVATE banks make .0018 cents. As for the electoral college it is a weird way to abuse power, and most certainly is steeped in trickery and opaque abuse of power...unless you have never heard of gerrymandering. I agree there are worse things that people should be afraid of, but it doesn't change the fact that the Fed is a corrupt system, controlled in majority by knowingly corrupt holdings members. Beat around the bush all you want, the system is sh*t, and by design does not allow the US to ever escape debt, as debt is the only way for the US to generate money.

Nope. Easily the most successful banking system in the history of the world, and it's not close at all. Debt is not a problem currently, it's occasionally an issue in different economic circumstances. Gerrymandering has nothing to do with the electoral college, as states (other than Nebraska and Maine) don't issue votes by congressional district. It has never, not once, impacted a presidential election in any way, ever. So...wrong again, you ignorant motherfucker.

Try harder. Take five minutes to research things objectively before giving in to your tin foil hat fear fantasies.
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Edited, Feb 11th 2013 10:33am by Spoonless
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Cite for what? My opinion that this story is not all that interesting?

It's interesting if you're the kind of slack jawed moron who took Ron Paul even vaguely seriously, ever.


This. Ron Paul has not ever been a free market Libertarian. He's a politician who takes advantage of people who think they believe in those things (but themselves are too stupid to realize what is and what isn't really "free market" either). The only thing shocking about this is how long it took these idiots to realize that their messiah doesn't match their projected assumption of him and never has. Funny thing is that I'm sure there's a faction of Paulites right now who are sure that Paul really is the free market guy in the room, and are bashing those who are daring to fight the other side of this.

It's the blind and the dumb fighting the stupid. Amusing, I suppose, but only in a "saw that train wreck coming 100 miles away" sort of way.
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This. Ron Paul has not ever been a free market Libertarian. He's a politician who takes advantage of people who think they believe in those things (but themselves are too stupid to realize what is and what isn't really "free market" either).

So, a Republican?
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This. Ron Paul has not ever been a free market Libertarian. He's a politician who takes advantage of people who think they believe in those things (but themselves are too stupid to realize what is and what isn't really "free market" either).

So, a Republican?


Ron Paul is to Republicans what Barack Obama is to Democrats. The difference being that the overwhelming majority of Republican voters are smart enough to recognize when a politician is selling them a load of BS. Dems eat it up like candy though. How's that closing Gitmo going? Ending the WoT? Opposing the Patriot act? Ending surveillance of US residents and citizens? ****. How about them drone strikes? How about illegal/undeclared wars? King GeorgeObama seems to have settled into a comfortable use of exactly the sorts of executive powers he argued against just a couple years before taking the office.
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#38 Feb 11 2013 at 5:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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The difference being that the overwhelming majority of Republican voters are smart enough to recognize when a politician is selling them a load of BS.
But not smart enough to keep from buying it. Smiley: frown
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Ron Paul is to Republicans what Barack Obama is to Democrats

Aside from one of them being electable and the other being thrilled to have thirty delegates.

But whatever makes you feel better. Too bad Romney wasn't to Republicans what Obama is to Democrats, huh? Smiley: laugh
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Ron Paul is to Republicans what Barack Obama is to Democrats

Aside from one of them being electable and the other being thrilled to have thirty delegates.


Yes. Welcome to The Point(tm). Speaks volumes about which "side" is more easily fooled by a flashy line of BS.

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Ron Paul is to Republicans what Barack Obama is to Democrats

Aside from one of them being electable and the other being thrilled to have thirty delegates.


Yes. Welcome to The Point(tm). Speaks volumes about which "side" is more easily fooled by a flashy line of BS.


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Yes. Heaven forbid that someone actually listen to what the President is saying today and then contrast it with what he said just a few years ago. That's just dirty politics! Smiley: lol
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It's only 47% dirty politics.
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Man, threads where gbaji and Smash agree so readily make me want to crawl into bed and sleep away a few months.
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Speaks volumes about which "side" is more easily fooled by a flashy line of BS.

That's one way to sleep at night after two crushing defeats in a row...
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Yes. Heaven forbid that someone actually listen to what the President is saying today and then contrast it with what he said just a few years ago. That's just dirty politics! Smiley: lol

You know that's absolutely not what it's about. The average viewer (and roughly 90% of Republicans, and 100% of Fox interns) is incapable of comparing and contrasting subject matter in real-time with any degree of meaningful interpretation. This is about forcefeeding a gullible audience reactionary bits of pseudo-analysis, nothing more.
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Hey, how come they're not live streaming the Tea Party response after the GOP response?!
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Yes. Heaven forbid that someone actually listen to what the President is saying today and then contrast it with what he said just a few years ago. That's just dirty politics! Smiley: lol

You know that's absolutely not what it's about. The average viewer (and roughly 90% of Republicans, and 100% of Fox interns) is incapable of comparing and contrasting subject matter in real-time with any degree of meaningful interpretation.


Yeah. Because it's impossible to predict at all about 95% of what Obama will say in the speech and to have prepared counters to those things and then just queue them up when he says them. That would just be crazy! We should just have some interns thinking up responses on the fly with no prep at all, cause that just makes more sense.

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This is about forcefeeding a gullible audience reactionary bits of pseudo-analysis, nothing more.


No. It's about going "told you so" over and over as Obama does exactly what conservative pundits have been accusing him of doing for years now.
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#49 Feb 11 2013 at 10:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Because it's impossible to predict at all about 95% of what Obama will say in the speech
You and Obama have so much in common.
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Yes. Heaven forbid that someone actually listen to what the President is saying today and then contrast it with what he said just a few years ago. That's just dirty politics! Smiley: lol

You know that's absolutely not what it's about. The average viewer (and roughly 90% of Republicans, and 100% of Fox interns) is incapable of comparing and contrasting subject matter in real-time with any degree of meaningful interpretation.


Yeah. Because it's impossible to predict at all about 95% of what Obama will say in the speech and to have prepared counters to those things and then just queue them up when he says them. That would just be crazy! We should just have some interns thinking up responses on the fly with no prep at all, cause that just makes more sense.

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This is about forcefeeding a gullible audience reactionary bits of pseudo-analysis, nothing more.


No. It's about going "told you so" over and over as Obama does exactly what conservative pundits have been accusing him of doing for years now.


Riiiiiiight. Smiley: tinfoilhat
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No. It's about going "told you so" over and over as Obama does exactly what conservative pundits have been accusing him of doing for years now.


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