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#27 Feb 09 2013 at 3:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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#28 Feb 09 2013 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
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There's no way to prove someone wrong when his position is projected 30 years into the future.



I proved him wrong 31 years from yesterday.


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Edited, Feb 9th 2013 6:45pm by rdmcandie
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He's obviously interested in getting his story out there, so unless he peacefully surrenders he's got no chance at being remembered as anything more than a mad man.


Haha, how nieve.
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#30 Feb 10 2013 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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He's obviously interested in getting his story out there, so unless he peacefully surrenders he's got no chance at being remembered as anything more than a mad man.
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Haha, how nieve.


I should have prefaced that with the exception of the extreme right, left, & gangsta's. For them, (anti)hero.
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#31 Feb 10 2013 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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He's obviously interested in getting his story out there, so unless he peacefully surrenders he's got no chance at being remembered as anything more than a mad man.
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Haha, how nieve.
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I should have prefaced that with the exception of the extreme right, left, & gangsta's. For them, (anti)hero.

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#33 Feb 11 2013 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
There's no way to prove someone wrong when his position is projected 30 years into the future.


I was referring to his misrememberance of the old thread (which Joph effectively blew up).

The 30 year projection business is his subsequent attempt to stiff-arm said refutation and get into the open field.

Edited, Feb 11th 2013 9:47am by Eske
#34 Feb 11 2013 at 6:39 PM Rating: Default
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Samira wrote:
There's no way to prove someone wrong when his position is projected 30 years into the future.


I was referring to his misrememberance of the old thread (which Joph effectively blew up).


What misrememberance? Sure looked to me like several posters defending (or at least dismissing the criticism of) the actions of Assata Shakur based on the song written about her. One said that the lyrics showed she was the victim of police corruption. Two others agreed with that poster. Out of the maybe 8 or 10 total people who posted in that thread, that's a pretty decent percentage.

The amusing aspect of this is the circling of wagons that seemed to be in effect. Since the original criticism was of Obama inviting the song writer to the White House, it seemed like the Obama supporters felt the need to defend that action by defending the song itself. Which is really bizarre if you stop and think about it. It stuck in my mind because of this facet of the issue. My post in that thread didn't touch on the Presidential connection at all. I just pointed out that the lyrics in the song were not remotely a fair representation of the facts, and she was hardly the victim she was portrayed to be. You'd think that wouldn't be such a horrible thing to say, but apparently it was.
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The amusing aspect of this is the circling of wagons that seemed to be in effect.

From the mouths of babes...
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The amusing aspect of this is the circling of wagons that seemed to be in effect. Since the original criticism was of Obama inviting the song writer to the White House, it seemed like the Obama supporters felt the need to defend that action by defending the song itself. Which is really bizarre if you stop and think about it.


It is bizarre. Why would anyone have to defend a song in a country with the 1st Amendment?
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If by defend he means shrugged their shoulders.
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#39 Feb 12 2013 at 8:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
Samira wrote:
There's no way to prove someone wrong when his position is projected 30 years into the future.


I was referring to his misrememberance of the old thread (which Joph effectively blew up).


What misrememberance? Sure looked to me like several posters defending (or at least dismissing the criticism of) the actions of Assata Shakur based on the song written about her. One said that the lyrics showed she was the victim of police corruption. Two others agreed with that poster. Out of the maybe 8 or 10 total people who posted in that thread, that's a pretty decent percentage.

The amusing aspect of this is the circling of wagons that seemed to be in effect. Since the original criticism was of Obama inviting the song writer to the White House, it seemed like the Obama supporters felt the need to defend that action by defending the song itself. Which is really bizarre if you stop and think about it. It stuck in my mind because of this facet of the issue. My post in that thread didn't touch on the Presidential connection at all. I just pointed out that the lyrics in the song were not remotely a fair representation of the facts, and she was hardly the victim she was portrayed to be. You'd think that wouldn't be such a horrible thing to say, but apparently it was.


You....you realize that I can look at the thread too, right?

I count two posters, rdm and some no-name, advocating that point.

≈17 liberal posters, ≈4 conservative posting in thread (gbaji, alma, moe, ugly (can't quite remember which side ugly leans to, but meh))

That means about 11% of the liberal posters advocated that position. One was a nobody that I'm only guessing was a liberal, because I've not personally seen him post here before or since. The other was RDM, who was probably high.

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Can't remember exactly who said what, but there was a remarkable willingness among the more liberal members of this forum to focus on the claimed corruption/abuse she suffered and ignore the violent acts she committed.


Nope.
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Whar'd yew larn to speel?

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#42 Feb 12 2013 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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Since the original criticism was of Obama inviting the song writer to the White House, it seemed like the Obama supporters felt the need to defend that action by defending the song itself. Which is really bizarre if you stop and think about it. It stuck in my mind because of this facet of the issue. My post in that thread didn't touch on the Presidential connection at all. I just pointed out that the lyrics in the song were not remotely a fair representation of the facts, and she was hardly the victim she was portrayed to be. You'd think that wouldn't be such a horrible thing to say, but apparently it was.


A guy posting some stuff about the first amendment doesn't equal defending what someone had to say, just their right to say it. That's kind of the whole point of the amendment, you know. It's so we are free to make jackasses out of ourselves, and you exercise that right almost daily.
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Looks like it'll be over soon...

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[Updated at 4:49 p.m. ET] Two sheriff's deputies have been wounded in a shootout with a suspect believed to be renegade ex-Los Angeles police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner, a high-ranking law official with knowledge of the investigation said Tuesday.

The source says the suspect, believed to be Dorner, shot the deputies as police responded to a report of a home invasion and a carjacking in the Big Bear area of southern California.

After police got a description of the vehicle, police set up a road block, and Dorner approached the officers, the source says. Dorner then opened fire, wounding the two sheriff's deputies, according to the source.

The official said Dorner was "pinned down."
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#44gbaji, Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 4:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Double that number. And then add in all the folks who rated my post down but didn't comment directly on it. And no, I'm not crying about karma, but just pointing out that this was my only post in that thread, I said nothing about Obama or took any specific political position on his choice to invite the guy to the White House. All I did was point out that the song wasn't an accurate portrayal of the events in question. This was apparently such an outrage to a number of posters that they felt that it deserved to be rated down.
#45 Feb 12 2013 at 4:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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And then add in all the folks who rated my post down
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I'm rating your post down. It must mean I think she was innocent and a saint.
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I just said that we should not take his version of events as an accurate depiction of what happened.
He did stop that mass shooting.

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A guy posting some stuff about the first amendment doesn't equal defending what someone had to say, just their right to say it. That's kind of the whole point of the amendment, you know. It's so we are free to make jackasses out of ourselves, and you exercise that right almost daily.


Yes. And I never said he didn't have a right to say it. I just said that we should not take his version of events as an accurate depiction of what happened. What precisely is wrong with saying that?
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Have you guys figured out the politics of this thing yet?

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel. Smiley: confused

In the meantime, you can watch the manhunt live on various large news networks. They've got the guy pinned down in a cabin.
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I just said that we should not take his version of events as an accurate depiction of what happened. What precisely is wrong with saying that?

Unless, you know, someone's "version of events" helps our ideological stance. Then we should 100% insist that some guy's version of events is infallible gospel. Via absolute speculation, of course Smiley: laugh

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#49 Feb 12 2013 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Have you guys figured out the politics of this thing yet?


Guns are bad. If we would just ban guns these would have all been knife attacks and obviously everyone would have lived. Smiley: nod

I have faith we can muster up something about racism too if given enough time.
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They've got the guy pinned down in a cabin.


Where's Jason Bourne when you need him?
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You guys keep tossing facts out there like they mean something.


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Elinda wrote:
They've got the guy pinned down in a cabin.


Where's Jason Bourne when you need him?

Setting the cabin on fire, apparently.

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[Updated at 7:33 p.m. ET] More details on authorities' current assault on the cabin: Fire, as well as smoke from devices that the officers detonated, have engulfed the structure, according to authorities familiar with the operation. Ammunition is exploding inside, the sources said.

[Updated at 7:30 p.m. ET] One of two sheriff's deputies shot Tuesday by a man suspected to be Dorner has died, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon told reporters at California's Loma Linda University Medical Center.

[Updated at 7:26 p.m. ET] The cabin appears to be on fire. Authorities began an assault on the structure minutes ago.

Authorities have penetrated the structure and were bringing equipment to tear openings into the cabin, a source familiar with the operation said.
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