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#1 Jan 24 2013 at 11:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.

House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence."

“Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says.

Third-degree felonies in New Mexico carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.

I don't even know what to say that would make this more awesomely terrible. Man, those guys just don't know when to stop digging.

Presumably the baby will then grow up and be raised in the evidence locker.

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#2 Jan 24 2013 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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New Mexico? Bet it passes.
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#3 Jan 24 2013 at 11:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Don't tell him you can get DNA from a fetus... Smiley: rolleyes
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#4 Jan 24 2013 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Democrats control the state legislature so it won't pass. Which makes it all the more amusing (I guess it'd be less amusing if it could pass). Just some Republican moron giving her party negative media cycles for no good reason.
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#5 Jan 24 2013 at 11:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Couldn't they just use the placenta for evidence instead once the abortion is complete?

FYI, I'm asking this without the knowledge of how long it take it to develop.
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You actually need the baby to be raised to age five, at which point he or she will take the stand and recount how 50% of his/her DNA was forcefully shot into to other 50%.
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Evidence is confiscated until the end of the trial, at which point it is either returned or destroyed. So maybe it'll just be a really really really really late term abortion after all.
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#8 Jan 24 2013 at 12:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Evidence is confiscated until the end of the trial, at which point it is either returned or destroyed. So maybe it'll just be a really really really really late term abortion after all.


That's got to be the hardest thing to tell your kid: I'm sorry sweetie, but now that we've convicted your father state law requires you to be incinerated.

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Probably the better alternative. Imagine the mocking the poor kid will endure with a name like State's Evidence Exhibit 15b.
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with a name like State's Evidence Exhibit 15b.

Rap career in a box, with a gold plated bow.
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#11 Jan 24 2013 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Something is very wrong with society if living in New Mexico helps your rap career. Smiley: disappointed
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This was a woman's idea?

Really?
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Omegavegeta wrote:
This was a woman's idea?

Really?


Unfortunately, some of the female pro-lifers are just as insane as the male ones.
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Omegavegeta wrote:
This was a woman's idea?

Really?


Unfortunately, some of the female pro-lifers are just as insane as the male ones.


Yet another reason I shy away from church bake sales.
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Doesn't seem that nutty to me frankly, if you start with the position that abortion is murder, you should offer bills like this. I think that's a flawed position, obviously, but if it's where you are, and you're a legislator, you're basically saying "meh, I guess baby murder is ok" if you don't at least try.

Why you'd specify rape is the media attention it will obviously garner. I didn't know who Cathrynn Brown was yesterday. Which I imagine is the point.
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Just for the record, just because this chick introduced the bill that does not mean that it was her idea or that she wrote it. She obviously endorses it, but my guess would be that whoever came up with the idea decided it would be a good idea to have a woman introduce it.

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Just for the record, just because this chick introduced the bill that does not mean that it was her idea or that she wrote it. She obviously endorses it, but my guess would be that whoever came up with the idea decided it would be a good idea to have a woman introduce it.


What a bizarre thing to think. Having a ****** doesn't magically make one sensible and on the right side of the reproductive freedom debate.
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Of course she's from Carlsbad. Smiley: facepalm

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Brown, R-Carlsbad, said her bill was badly drafted and that she did not catch the language problems when reviewing it. "I missed this one," she said Thursday.


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Rep. Nate Gentry, R-Albuquerque, said Brown's intent was to focus on a perpetrator, such as a stepfather who raped a teen, impregnated her and then demanded that she get an abortion.
Not that I believe them, since I know what kind of nuts come out of that town, but at least she's trying to call it a mistake.

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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Of course she's from Carlsbad. Smiley: facepalm


Does that mean that she's been living in a cave all these years?
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What a bizarre thing to think. Having a ****** doesn't magically make one sensible and on the right side of the reproductive freedom debate.


Of course not. But it does look better to have a woman promoting it since it is a bill that effects women.
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Smasharoo wrote:
Just for the record, just because this chick introduced the bill that does not mean that it was her idea or that she wrote it. She obviously endorses it, but my guess would be that whoever came up with the idea decided it would be a good idea to have a woman introduce it.


What a bizarre thing to think. Having a ****** doesn't magically make one sensible and on the right side of the reproductive freedom debate.


There's like two or three layers of sarcasm there, right?

/em recounts all the times the "only women's opinions matter on abortion" argument has been made on this forum.
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Of course she's from Carlsbad. Smiley: facepalm


Does that mean that she's been living in a cave all these years?
The town is much worse than the cave. I mean, this is a town that spent a ridiculous sum of money on some ditches because they thought it would attract tourists.

Edit: My head hurts. No more reading new asylum threads this close to bedtime.

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/em recounts all the times the "only women's opinions matter on abortion" argument has been made on this forum.

Made by women, mostly. I personally think that position is ridiculous and self-destructive.
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Jophiel wrote:
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/em recounts all the times the "only women's opinions matter on abortion" argument has been made on this forum.

Made by women, mostly. I personally think that position is ridiculous and self-destructive.


There are a few manginas around here who have echoed the sentiment I think. Could be wrong though. Hard to tell sometimes. Smiley: tongue
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gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
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/em recounts all the times the "only women's opinions matter on abortion" argument has been made on this forum.

Made by women, mostly. I personally think that position is ridiculous and self-destructive.


There are a few manginas around here who have echoed the sentiment I think. Could be wrong though. Hard to tell sometimes. Smiley: tongue

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Just as a fun follow up. My forum-stalking wife just texted me and said how cute she thought it was that the two of you think you matter at all when it comes to abortion.

That's right, I let my wife fight my battles for me. Smiley: cool

Smiley: lol

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If this wasn't such a litigious, reactionary society I would jokingly suggest somebody rape Ms. Brown and tell her that she has to keep the baby.

But after a quick GIS that might be harder to get done than I thought.
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