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#52 Jan 17 2013 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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Although recycling programs in the United States have become a key component in waste management, recycling programs are in fact one the most costly methods of waste disposal. According to author Harvey Black of the Environmental Health Perspectives Journal, in San Jose, California “it costs $28 per ton to landfill waste compared with $147 a ton to recycle” (Black 1006). In Atlantic County, New Jersey, selling recyclable goods brings in $2.45 million. However, the cost of collecting and sorting these recycled materials plus interest payments on the recycling facility costs the county over $3 million (Black 1006). With the time, money, and energy spent collecting and processing recycled goods, the price of recycling is much higher than discarding waste into landfills or incinerators. Despite the high costs of recycling, proponents of recycling argue that the environmental and health benefits of recycling outweigh the costs. Recycling advocates believe that recycling is more than just an issue of economics and is essential to caring for human health and environmental sustainability. Nevertheless, recycling facilities not only cost a great deal of money, but they also damage the environment by generating large amounts of waste and endanger human health by emitting numerous toxic pollutants. Instead of spending a large sum of money on recycling programs, we should put money towards higher priority programs such as healthcare, education, and cost-effective environmental initiatives. Given that the environmental and health benefits of recycling do not outweigh the high costs, the United States must cut down its number of recycling programs. In order to offset several of the environmental benefits of recycling, waste reduction techniques such as reducing and reusing must become a commonplace component of this country’s waste management

Took one Google...... Univ. of Maryland btw,
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Took one Google

To find an essay by an undergraduate business student. Good work, fucknut. Maybe next time you can try to find a crayon drawing done by a 3 year old.

The university part is kind of meaningless when it's not sponsored research but a creative writing assignment to an undergrad, BTW.

My god, you people are morons.
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Landfills are a huge source of environmental degradation - to all media, and incinerators are notorious for going 'off-license' with their emissions. Any large scale garbage collection and treatment, to be most efficient is going to require the same level of sorting as recycling - there's simply stuff that won't burn and stuff that won't biodegrade and stuff that is too hazardous to allow into the public trash stream.

Recycling stuff, depending on the methods can be a squeaky clean process in comparison to traditional trash disposal. It costs more because the processes are much more regulated. Traditional garbage disposal would cost as much if not more if landfills and incinerators had to meet the same level of environmental standards as reuse industries.
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Oh, not too mention as resources and space become more scarce, and as nimbyism spreads and spreads recycling will become more and more valuable - necessary even. Also, if you squeezed out all the monetary numbers involved with making our trash go away, you'll probably find that traditional trash disposal is subsidized at a much greater rate than reuse/recycling industries.

No one wants a dump in their backyard, or down the street from the playground or even off the highway as their so fricken ugly. Already landfills and incinerators are having to move further and further away from their source, increasing transportation costs and of course increasing levels of all that nice diesel exhaust heading into the atmosphere.

The traditional waste disposal infrastructure is incredibly inefficient. As cradle to grave manufacturing becomes the norm it will necessitate that products have a second or even third use.

In fact, if anyone wants to get into a lucrative business, find a way to get good clean reuse out of an abundant waste stream.


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“it costs $28 per ton to landfill waste compared with $147 a ton to recycle” (Black 1006). In Atlantic County, New Jersey, selling recyclable goods brings in $2.45 million. However, the cost of collecting and sorting these recycled materials plus interest payments on the recycling facility costs the county over $3 million (Black 1006).


These figures don't even support his argument.

If recycling costs 3 million and you get 2.45 million back, then the net cost per ton is 147 - (2.45/3 * 147) = 26.95 or $27 a ton, one dollar cheaper than landfill. This is assuming that the net cost of landfill is pretty much the same as the gross cost, and that it doesn't cost the council significantly more than 3 million to do their recycling - if it does then the figures are pretty ****. It also assumes that the price of sorting etc is counted in the gross cost, as it should be.

Honestly, it would have been much better to quote the Black article he's ripping chunks out of.
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Honestly, it would have been much better to quote the Black article he's ripping chunks out of.

Sure, but that wasn't the (obviously first year) writing assignment in his English class.

People need to understand that there's a loose hierarchy of knowledge. From most useless to most usefull:

sh*t you made up and wish were true: Gabji level knowledge.

Your personal experience related to everyone else on the planet at a leverage of 1 to 6,000,000,000: Most people's level of knowledge, AKA, My kid got a flu shot then got sick, the flu shot makes you sick.

sh*t you googled and didn't think about: The level on display here. AKA, Most people I know don't know how to use a search engine, so I assume my magical power to do so allows me to settle any augment without doing anything else.

Basic logic: Most above average intelligence people. AKA, just because crime rates went down as gun sales went up doesn't mean guns caused less crime.

Basic statistical understanding: Understanding variance, etc. Knowing when "New study shows apples cure cancer" is bullsh*t based on the other 900 studies that didn't find this, etc. Almost never seen here, maybe 4 or 5 posters capable of this, and most too lazy to bother much of the time as there's no reward.

Advanced understanding of systems theory and logical interaction in regards to human behavior. Extremely rare intuitive grasp of human nature coupled with extensive study of same and it's mathematical underpinnings to develop a system of analysis capable of understanding why people react a certain way to most situations, and frequently to predict same with reasonable accuracy in excess of randomness. - Me.

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Advanced understanding of systems theory and logical interaction in regards to human behavior. Extremely rare intuitive grasp of human nature coupled with extensive study of same and it's mathematical underpinnings to develop a system of analysis capable of understanding why people react a certain way to most situations, and frequently to predict same with reasonable accuracy in excess of randomness. - Me.


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Come on guy, you don't even know how to operate the quote function!
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Basic statistical understanding: Understanding variance, etc. Knowing when "New study shows apples cure cancer" is bullsh*t based on the other 900 studies that didn't find this, etc. Almost never seen here, maybe 4 or 5 posters capable of this, and most too lazy to bother much of the time as there's no reward.


Given the vast number of studies concluding that household recycling costs more than normal means of disposal, it's strange that you continue to cling to the exact opposition assumption.

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Hah! Funny how the first and last levels are more or less interchangeable depending solely on perspective.
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Come on guy, you don't even know how to operate the quote function!

Dude, he can't even spell argument. Obviously he knows nothing of statistical analysis, much less using the quote function.
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My county has to pay the next county over a hefty sum of money to put our trash in their landfill, because we filled ours up and have no room for another.

We have a fairly robust recycling program. Mixed stream recyclables can be dropped off at multiple locations for free. It's encouraged... because recycling can be done in-county. Waste disposal cannot.

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Hah! Funny how the first and last levels are more or less interchangeable depending solely on perspective.

Indeed. Thank god for the Downing effect, eh?
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Given the vast number of studies concluding that household recycling costs more than normal means of disposal, it's strange that you continue to cling to the exact opposition assumption


But, it makes us feel better, & allows us to continue buying billions of plastic bottles......
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. In order to offset several of the environmental benefits of recycling, waste reduction techniques such as reducing and reusing must become a commonplace component of this country’s waste management

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When a (self proclaimed) genius first response is to name call, it would appear a nerve has been struck.

Nah, too easy.

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Hah! Funny how the first and last levels are more or less interchangeable depending solely on perspective.

Indeed. Thank god for the Downing effect, eh?


Yes. That and the Rinemacher Paradox. But you're a "special" example of that one, aren't you?
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Going to assume that "Rinemacher Paradox" is a typo since it doesn't come up on Google. Care to elaborate what that is without devolving into needless words?
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Going to assume that "Rinemacher Paradox" is a typo since it doesn't come up on Google. Care to elaborate what that is without devolving into needless words?


It's the idea that people with little knowledge or understanding in a given area will tend to depend heavily on labeled terms to cover for their lack of understanding, assuming that by showing knowledge of a term they heard they will be viewed as knowledgeable in the subject at hand. The reason it's labeled a paradox should be obvious.


Oh. And I made it up to illustrate a point. Do you see what the point is?
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Oh I understand all right. Smiley: rolleyes


You googled what I wrote, didn't you? Point made then.

Maybe I should explain the background. I once had a boss who used to love to mock people who got caught up in buzz words and phrases. He would intentionally make up things that would sound like they were some kind of industry term just to see how people would react. It's quite interesting actually. And it teaches people the difference between understanding what you're talking about and responding in a predictable (herd like) manner to a buzz phrase. It's very common to get a group of people to nod and agree to some term they've heard, even if you just explained the exact same thing in normal language and they all looked at you with blank stares. "Oh everyone knows to use the binary least square approach! Of course!"... Blank stare.


What Smash posted just triggered a memory is all.

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I once had a boss who used to love to mock people who got caught up in buzz words and phrases.

I'm absolutely sure that there is no question that the truth is this is a simple fact.
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You googled what I wrote, didn't you? Point made then.


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I once had a boss who used to love to mock people who got caught up in buzz words and phrases.

I had a boss once who killed 3 men with his bare hands, on separate individual occasions, years apart. He never mocked anyone. Not that I feel mocked, mind, you. I think you illustrate the concept of illusory superiority fairly perfectly, to be honest. Your post just reminded me of how the work I've done in my life mattered to a great many people and how if you had never existed, no one would have really minded.
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Going to assume that "Rinemacher Paradox" is a typo since it doesn't come up on Google. Care to elaborate what that is without devolving into needless words?


It's the idea that people with little knowledge or understanding in a given area will tend to depend heavily on labeled terms to cover for their lack of understanding, assuming that by showing knowledge of a term they heard they will be viewed as knowledgeable in the subject at hand. The reason it's labeled a paradox should be obvious.


Oh. And I made it up to illustrate a point. Do you see what the point is?



I thought that was called the Gbaji Complex?
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I think you illustrate the concept of illusory superiority fairly perfectly, to be honest. Your post just reminded me of how the work I've done in my life mattered to a great many people and how if you had never existed, no one would have really minded.


You're doing this deliberately as a social experiment, right? Just like before when you replied to me describing something with the label for the very thing that I was describing. For the record, I think your expected results are pretty well confirmed at this point. People will blindly agree with the guy who tosses out the label even while disagreeing with the guy who describes for them what the label actually means. Funny thing is that they'll continue doing this (adamantly and angrily) even after the behavior is pointed out to them.


So... Bravo?

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People will blindly agree with the guy who tosses out the label even while disagreeing with the guy who describes for them what the label actually means.
How is it you manage to evade the 'herd' like mentality that the rest of us are so vulnerable to?

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I see.





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People will blindly agree with the guy who tosses out the label even while disagreeing with the guy who describes for them what the label actually means.
How is it you manage to evade the 'herd' like mentality that the rest of us are so vulnerable to?


Being aware of it is the first step. It's a common human trait (failing?) to be more taken in by a buzzword or label than a description of the thing itself. This in turn can lead us to make poor decisions. But if you are aware of this, you can take steps to avoid it. You can strive to look at what something is rather than what it's labeled. You can then avoid making the mistake of making decisions based on associative reaction to the label itself (or its mere use as in this case) and instead make good informed decisions about the actual thing itself.


This isn't something new (or shouldn't be). Marketing is almost entirely based on this trait. Just look at what things are highlighted on labels and how those things change over time (even when the product itself does not). They do this, not because that can of spaghetti is any different today than it was 10 years ago, but because today saying "gluten free!" is the current label that people will associate positively with, while perhaps "low sodium" was the buzzword that would gain them sales 5 years ago, and maybe "0 trans fats" was what people cared about 10 years ago. It's all complete BS and once you realize this you can look at the world around you in a much more clear light.
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People will blindly agree with the guy who tosses out the label even while disagreeing with the guy who describes for them what the label actually means.
How is it you manage to evade the 'herd' like mentality that the rest of us are so vulnerable to?


Being aware of it is the first step. It's a common human trait (failing?) to be more taken in by a buzzword or label than a description of the thing itself. This in turn can lead us to make poor decisions. But if you are aware of this, you can take steps to avoid it. You can strive to look at what something is rather than what it's labeled. You can then avoid making the mistake of making decisions based on associative reaction to the label itself (or its mere use as in this case) and instead make good informed decisions about the actual thing itself.


This isn't something new (or shouldn't be). Marketing is almost entirely based on this trait. Just look at what things are highlighted on labels and how those things change over time (even when the product itself does not). They do this, not because that can of spaghetti is any different today than it was 10 years ago, but because today saying "gluten free!" is the current label that people will associate positively with, while perhaps "low sodium" was the buzzword that would gain them sales 5 years ago, and maybe "0 trans fats" was what people cared about 10 years ago. It's all complete BS and once you realize this you can look at the world around you in a much more clear light.
That's some pretty elementary stuff you're tossing out there. I mean it's smart, but hey you're not any more genius than the next guy. So, why would the majority of people, the herd, fail to understand what you do about how they make their choices?

For you're theory to hold true you have to either be extraordinary or, or what?

Is labeling a buzzword?
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Didn't you know Elinda? Gbaji is better at understanding subjects then the subject matter experts. Also he doesn't actually need to see any of a studies results to understand it better then the experts. Expertlicious.
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Didn't you know Elinda? Gbaji is better at understanding subjects then the subject matter experts. Also he doesn't actually need to see any of a studies results to understand it better then the experts knows literaly 200x as much about stuff as the rest of us.

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That's some pretty elementary stuff you're tossing out there. I mean it's smart, but hey you're not any more genius than the next guy. So, why would the majority of people, the herd, fail to understand what you do about how they make their choices?


First off. It's not about me. I'm free to observe something without making any claims about myself at all.

Secondly, it's axiomatic. Oh wait! That's a label. It's self proving. The fact that people use labels in this way is strong evidence that it works. I observed that Smash's statement about relative knowledge of issues could just as easily be reversed based on one's own self perception, and Smash's response was to say that my statement was an example of the Downing Effect. But if you know what that means, you'll realize it's exactly what I just pointed out about him (he placed his own knowledge at the high end of the spectrum, which is just as likely to be an example of the effect as my response).

Smash did that because he's banking on the assumption that more people will assume he's smarter because he used a label and will thus overlook how that same bias he's talking about applies to himself. So even though I was the first to point out the bias in his own post, by using a label instead, he believes he can influence readers into assuming he's not biased, but I am for pointing out the bias. Kinda ridiculous if you stop and think about it, but most people will fall for it because of the trait I spoke of.

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Nope. My own extraordinary nature has nothing to do with the validity of what I'm talking about. Why would you assume so? If what I'm saying makes sense and seems to match observed behavior, then there's evidence that it's a valid idea. If not, then you're free to discount it and move on (or argue about why you disagree if you wish). But dismissing something someone says simply because you think the person saying it doesn't follow what he's saying is silly.

If a drunk tells you that drinking is bad for you and you shouldn't do it, do you assume he's wrong because he's unable to take his own advice? I've honestly never understood the whole "deny the message because the messenger doesn't follow it" argument.
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(he placed his own knowledge at the high end of the spectrum, which is just as likely to be an example of the effect as my response).


Yeah, if we decide to exclude all prior evidence of your unfathomably small mind. Motion denied, though, so the odds are going to stay against you. I see that the court's bookie is relieved.

Let me lay it on the line. You're fucking retarded. It's hard to say how intelligent Smasharoo is, save that it's somewhere between his own caricature and your own dribbling existence. You are a fucking disgrace. No-one thinks you're less intelligent because you use less jargon, though one might say that it has its place in, you know, communicating information concisely. I know you don't give a fuck about that, but most of us find it quite useful.

Yes, people sometimes misuse jargon to make it seem like they know what they're talking about when they don't, but that really isn't relevant here. Anyone who posts here has had twenty thousand posts from which to draw their own conclusions about how bright you are. Twenty thousand posts, you ****. And they're all ****.
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You guys don't recycle before putting it in the trash? No wonder it costs a lot.

Trash management in Denmark is fairly simple:

Recyclable cans/bottles (refundable):
1. When you buy a can/bottle, you pay an extra fee if the can/bottle is recyclable.
2. When you return the empty can/bottle to a supermarket with a recycling machine, the supermarket pays you money equal to the recycling fee.
3. Dansk Retursystem (Danish Return System), a non-profit company with monopoly on collecting refundable recyclables, collects the recyclable cans/bottles and pays the supermarket whatever money they spent on refunding fees.

Recyclable cans/bottles (non-refundable):
1. Most residential areas have recycle bins/containers for paper and glass that cannot be refunded.
2. Said bins/containers are emptied by the local trash company (most of them are owned by the municipality).
3. The trash company sells the recyclable stuff to other companies that recycle the stuff into new stuff (which they in turn sell to the industry and so on).

Non-recyclable materials:
1. Anything thrown in the garbage bin is collected by the aforementioned trash company and driven to the incinerator plant.
2. Fire.
3. Trash company sells heat and electricity back to the city.

Citizens pay to have the trash company collect their personal trash, from garbage bins and such. The public containers are paid for by the municipality or the housing association that had the containers put up.

Recycling in Denmark relies a lot on people's conscience and their desire to make a few coins from handing in refundable cans/bottles. While it's generally considered intruding on private property (we don't have to move our cans to the curb, so it's technically on our private property) for someone to rummage through our personal trash, no one really cares, as long as the scavengers don't leave a mess.

The trash company doesn't lose money on it either, because they can't sell the refundable cans. Not that they would collect them - as I said, anything thrown in the garbage bin is driven directly to the incinerator.

Edit: I should probably mention that some people do care that scavengers rummage through their personal trash for refundable cans/bottles. The scavengers rarely intrude on private property, though, because most people don't throw out recyclable stuff. I guess we care.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2013 1:25am by Mazra
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#88 Jan 21 2013 at 6:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mazra wrote:
You guys don't recycle before putting it in the trash? No wonder it costs a lot.

Well, you recycle BY putting it in the "trash". You get a separate bin(s) for your recyclables which are collected on trash day (by a separate truck).
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#89 Jan 21 2013 at 7:01 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Mazra wrote:
You guys don't recycle before putting it in the trash? No wonder it costs a lot.

Well, you recycle BY putting it in the "trash". You get a separate bin(s) for your recyclables which are collected on trash day (by a separate truck).


Well, some people are lucky enough to have tha luxury.

Mazra, some states charge a deposit on cans and bottles and allow you to return them back to the store and collect your deposit. Most states don't do this. In Tennessee, we didn't have deposits and recycling places at the grocery store. If we wanted, we could bag up our recyclables separately and take them to the recycling center and dump them in the marked bins by material type. The last year that we lived there, a company finally offered the opportunity to pay them $12 a quarter and they would do curbside pick up of your recycling. It was only a trial, though to see if enough people would sign up.

Hawaii charges you a deposit, and there are recycling centers that you have to take your bottles and such to and they will pay you back your deposit, though you can decline it or designate it to go to a charity if you like.
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(he placed his own knowledge at the high end of the spectrum, which is just as likely to be an example of the effect as my response).


Yeah, if we decide to exclude all prior evidence of your unfathomably small mind. Motion denied, though, so the odds are going to stay against you. I see that the court's bookie is relieved.

Let me lay it on the line. You're fucking retarded. It's hard to say how intelligent Smasharoo is, save that it's somewhere between his own caricature and your own dribbling existence. You are a fucking disgrace. No-one thinks you're less intelligent because you use less jargon, though one might say that it has its place in, you know, communicating information concisely. I know you don't give a fuck about that, but most of us find it quite useful.

Yes, people sometimes misuse jargon to make it seem like they know what they're talking about when they don't, but that really isn't relevant here. Anyone who posts here has had twenty thousand posts from which to draw their own conclusions about how bright you are. Twenty thousand posts, you ****. And they're all sh*t.


Wow. Tell us how you really feel! You sound a bit desperate there. Not quite buying it. Maybe a few more swear words?

Seriously dude. Switch to decaf or something.
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#91 Jan 21 2013 at 9:23 PM Rating: Good
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Wow. Tell us how you really feel! You sound a bit desperate there. Not quite buying it. Maybe a few more swear words?

Seriously dude. Switch to decaf or something.
People would hate you less if you were not, in fact, the spawn of Satan.

Just sayin'.
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#92 Jan 21 2013 at 9:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Mazra wrote:
You guys don't recycle before putting it in the trash? No wonder it costs a lot.

Well, you recycle BY putting it in the "trash". You get a separate bin(s) for your recyclables which are collected on trash day (by a separate truck).


Well, some people are lucky enough to have tha luxury.

Mazra, some states charge a deposit on cans and bottles and allow you to return them back to the store and collect your deposit. Most states don't do this. In Tennessee, we didn't have deposits and recycling places at the grocery store. If we wanted, we could bag up our recyclables separately and take them to the recycling center and dump them in the marked bins by material type. The last year that we lived there, a company finally offered the opportunity to pay them $12 a quarter and they would do curbside pick up of your recycling. It was only a trial, though to see if enough people would sign up.

Hawaii charges you a deposit, and there are recycling centers that you have to take your bottles and such to and they will pay you back your deposit, though you can decline it or designate it to go to a charity if you like.

Back in the dark ages, TN used the deposit method. I remember going with my mom to turn in bottles and she'd get some money back. Also, the deposit amount was on all the bottles and cans.

Granted, this was when I was about 4, so... 1923?
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You're doing this deliberately as a social experiment, right? Just like before when you replied to me describing something with the label for the very thing that I was describing. For the record, I think your expected results are pretty well confirmed at this point. People will blindly agree with the guy who tosses out the label even while disagreeing with the guy who describes for them what the label actually means. Funny thing is that they'll continue doing this (adamantly and angrily) even after the behavior is pointed out to them.


Funny thing about projection is that people continue to use it as a defense mechanism even after they've been blatantly confronted for doing so by everyone they encounter. It's genuinely weird to me that you consider you and I to be somehow near equals intellectually. We just aren't. Not because I have a more prestigious degree or career, or whatever. Just because I have more intellectual horsepower. I don't know why that's so hard for you to cope with. I know lots of people who are smarter than me about various things, and many who are just generally quicker to analyze or learn than I am who I'd qualify as "smarter than I am" in a general sense. It's not really that big of a deal UNLESS you become obsessed with this megalomaniacal idea that anyone who "seems" like they might know more than you about something must be all smoke and mirrors. That the narrative of "I'm as good as anyone else" so overwhelms your personal reality that the lies you have to weave to convince yourself of it become bizarre affectations to everyone else.

I've never bothered to ask before, because to some degree, I don't really care that much, but you show obvious signs of some early life trauma. What the fuck happened? Daddy leave when you were kid? Father Bob overstep your personal space? You're 40 now, it's ok. You can talk about it. Seriously. You may as well be wearing a sign. I understand your first instinct will be to deny there's anything to talk about, but I'm honestly reaching out. You're broken, buddy, but it doesn't have to be this way. It really doesn't.
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#96 Jan 22 2013 at 8:09 AM Rating: Good
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I just wanted to know whether or not I should call the po-po on the lady taking cans out of my bin. Maybe I should have posted my other thread in here, too. Smiley: lol

Edited, Jan 22nd 2013 9:10am by Spoonless
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
My own extraordinary nature has nothing to do with the validity of what I'm talking about.

*snrk*

The Asylum is the home to the League of Extraordinary Posters (=4).

Before I moved from mpls (1992) we had to sort our recycling into cans, number 2 plastics and paper/paperboard. It was a weekly job I despised. Now however, I realize what a luxury it was to simply have roadside pick-up of trash/recycling.
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#98 Jan 22 2013 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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I just wanted to know whether or not I should call the po-po on the lady taking cans out of my bin. Maybe I should have posted my other thread in here, too. Smiley: lol

Edited, Jan 22nd 2013 9:10am by Spoonless
No, you should take her in and feed her and hug her and make her warm and happy.
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Smasharoo wrote:
It's not really that big of a deal UNLESS you become obsessed with this megalomaniacal idea that anyone who "seems" like they might know more than you about something must be all smoke and mirrors.
That is his standard operating procedure, really.
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I just wanted to know whether or not I should call the po-po on the lady taking cans out of my bin.

Tell her "Hey lady, I got a sweet can for ya right here!" and then go with where the moment takes you two.
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#101 Jan 22 2013 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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Actually, they don't take the cans, just beer bottles and whatnot with the refund on them. Then they drive over the state line into MA and get money for them.
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