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#1 Jan 15 2013 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
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Over the past couple of months, we've had one industrious woman who goes around and picks through the neighborhood's recycling, poaching any bottles she may find. Now, I get that she may be down and out, but it bothers me that she's picking through my stuff. Furthermore, the garbage company making money off of recyclables keeps the rate low, so over time the impact of her poaching bottles could cost me money.

Now, I've asked her politely to stop picking through my recycling bin. I've told her forcefully to stop, and I've written down her license plate along with a basic description of her and her vehicle. I really don't want to file a police report, but it's annoying to me, and I shouldn't have to adjust my schedule and bring the trash out in the morning because she can't respect my property.

I'm pretty sure I'm overreacting, but I can't be the only person on here who would be angry about something like this.
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You asked her several times and she isn't respecting your wishes. Time to file a police report.
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Tell her you saw her stealing and lost all control. Be consistent about it and she'll stop stealing so much; if not you probably won't care.

I'd involve the cops, or small flashbang explosives.
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Sorry about that Spoonless, I'll tell my mom to knock it off.
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Tell her you saw her stealing and lost all control. Be consistent about it and she'll stop stealing so much; if not you probably won't care.

Smiley: lol

I thought about just smearing the bottles with dog poo. Or gluing them all together.

Because I'm a child.

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I'm not sure how it works in your city, but when you put your trash in the city's containers and out on the curb for pickup, it technically becomes *their* property. I guess file a report with the agency that does the trash pick up, but I doubt it's your job to involve the cops, or that you should really waste their time with such nonsense.

As far as the **** idea, my ex didn't like the can lady digging through our bin so he'd bag up all the cans with the cat litter. Personally, we've been having someone around lately going through the recycling bins, but he's on foot, and trudging through the snow, so other than the first time when he dumped the bin out on the lawn for easy access, he's been little trouble and I have no problem with him collecting pennies from our trash. Not to mention, 3/5 times the garbage companies strews trash down the road anyway, so he's really not any worse.
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What time do they pick stuff up? Can you just put it out in the morning? I'm all for reporting as well, but I wonder how much it would take to get them to do anything about it.

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Tell her you saw her stealing and lost all control. Be consistent about it and she'll stop stealing so much; if not you probably won't care.


Sounds logical.

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What time do they pick stuff up? Can you just put it out in the morning? I'm all for reporting as well, but I wonder how much it would take to get them to do anything about it.

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Tell her you saw her stealing and lost all control. Be consistent about it and she'll stop stealing so much; if not you probably won't care.


Sounds logical.

I could put it out in the morning. I've tried leaving it up in front of the garage door so that I'll see it on the way to my car, but she's come up the driveway to pick through it, so I'd have to leave the bins in the garage, where I forget to bring them to the street. And I kind of think that I shouldn't have to adjust my behaviour because of someone else's lack of respect.

Heck, if she had just come to the door and asked if I minded, I probably would have just said to take them.
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I've tried leaving it up in front of the garage door so that I'll see it on the way to my car, but she's come up the driveway to pick through it, so I'd have to leave the bins in the garage, where I forget to bring them to the street.


As soon as she came onto your property it became a trespassing felony. Put some "No Trespassing" signs up and put the cans in front of your garage door again. If she goes up the driveway again record it and call the cops.
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Hmm. A citizen of the "Land of Opportunity" shows initiative by commercially exploiting your discarded items, and you want to call in the cops?

Selfish, inconsiderate behaviour on your part.

FFS. If they're harming your recycling contractor's income, let them police their own **** business. Otherwise, why not leave her be?

/Facepalm.
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I don't mind people taking my trash. In fact, I use them as a reliable source to get rid of large items without having to pay anything extra. Smaller items I think someone might find useful I'll set aside on the curb and let some dude take that old box of VHS tapes to sell for 10¢ each at the flea market. Provided they don't make a mess, more power to 'em.

But if I asked someone to stop pawing through my trash and they steadfastly refused, I'm sure I'd have an issue with it as well.
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Hmm. A citizen of the "Land of Opportunity" shows initiative by commercially exploiting your discarded items, and you want to call in the cops?

Selfish, inconsiderate behaviour on your part.

FFS. If they're harming your recycling contractor's income, let them police their own **** business. Otherwise, why not leave her be?

/Facepalm.


You'll be singing a different tune when Clegg starts rummaging through your bins.
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#14 Jan 15 2013 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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What your neighborhood really needs is an armed guard, that should be an adequate deterrent. Smiley: nod

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Hmm. A citizen of the "Land of Opportunity" shows initiative by commercially exploiting your discarded items, and you want to call in the cops?


Only rich people are allowed to steal. L2democracy. Smiley: oyvey
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Nobby wrote:
Hmm. A citizen of the "Land of Opportunity" shows initiative by commercially exploiting your discarded items, and you want to call in the cops?

Selfish, inconsiderate behaviour on your part.

FFS. If they're harming your recycling contractor's income, let them police their own **** business. Otherwise, why not leave her be?

/Facepalm.

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It's not really worth worrying about IMO. When you look at the total costs (including subsidies), recycling generally costs more money than it saves on net. If you're putting your recycling into a blue bin on the curb for the trash company to pick up, you're basically giving it to someone else anyway. I don't believe that the trash company really cares about the total dollar amount they can get for what's in the recycling bins at all (it can't possibly make up for the costs required to pick it up). They get a subsidy from the city for doing it, and the city's interest isn't about making money either. It's about making people feel good about their city being so responsible. Of course, that's mostly a crock as well. If you've ever actually gone to a recycling center (where the recycling ends out, not where it's picked up), a large majority of it just sits in separate piles from the landfills the normal garbage goes into. Most of the money goes into picking it up from people, not into actually using it again in any useful way, and most stuff that we recycle never gets actually recycled at all.

If it really bothers you, or you think you're somehow being stolen from, then save your own recycling and take it down to a center once a month for the buck or two you'll get in return. Or you can just allow the individual to do it instead of the trash company and just shift around where the money goes a bit. Think of it as a service. You'd probably have to pay someone to take that stuff off your hands (and technically, you are), but here's someone willing to do it for free! It really doesn't hurt you or anyone else at all, so why worry about it?
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Indeed.
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Nobby wrote:
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What Nobby said concisely, but regurgitated as a wall of words

Indeed.


But I added in controversial stuff about the ineffectiveness of recycling, increasing the odds of someone getting their panties in a wad and responding with some form of contrived outrage, thus contributing to the life blood of this forum. Why do you hate the forum? Smiley: oyvey
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Implicit darling. Implicit.

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Almalique's been here for years.

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I take my recycling out in the morning, mainly because the noise of people going through it annoys me.

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So I guess I'll just start coming by your house in the morning after you go to work. Sheesh.
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Luckily "after I go to work" = dawn.
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Public shaming. Tell all your neighbors to be on the lookout for her. Post a sign near the bins that says "DEAR <her name> PLEASE STOP GOING THROUGH MY TRASH. IF YOU REALLY ARE THAT HARD UP FOR CASH COME INSIDE AND I WILL GLADLY DROP A FIVER IF YOU GUM MY BEEFSTEAK."
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The obvious solution is to install your own metal and glass recycling center / smelting plant. And then push her in the smelter! Mwahahahahahahahah!!!!

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The obvious solution is to install your own metal and glass recycling center / smelting plant. And then build your own ultralight plane!


I don't know who the **** the other guy is, but this is what Kao would say.
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#28 Jan 16 2013 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
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Over the past couple of months, we've had one industrious woman who goes around and picks through the neighborhood's recycling, poaching any bottles she may find. Now, I get that she may be down and out, but it bothers me that she's picking through my stuff. Furthermore, the garbage company making money off of recyclables keeps the rate low, so over time the impact of her poaching bottles could cost me money.

Now, I've asked her politely to stop picking through my recycling bin. I've told her forcefully to stop, and I've written down her license plate along with a basic description of her and her vehicle. I really don't want to file a police report, but it's annoying to me, and I shouldn't have to adjust my schedule and bring the trash out in the morning because she can't respect my property.

I'm pretty sure I'm overreacting, but I can't be the only person on here who would be angry about something like this.

In my city, entire families of mostly Chinese make their living off of dumpster diving for glass bottles. It never bothers me, unless they throw the trash everywhere to get to the bottles & not pick it up.

Obviously you have better things to do than to run to the recycling center with your own bottles in order to reap the benefits of the $.05 per bottle returned, so why does it bother you that she doesn't?

Jerk.
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Maybe it's because it's getting late and I've been transcribing for the last two hours, but I keep reading the subject as:

Stalin: People's recycling
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It's not really worth worrying about IMO. When you look at the total costs (including subsidies), recycling generally costs more money than it saves on net. If you're putting your recycling into a blue bin on the curb for the trash company to pick up, you're basically giving it to someone else anyway. I don't believe that the trash company really cares about the total dollar amount they can get for what's in the recycling bins at all (it can't possibly make up for the costs required to pick it up).

True. In 2003. Many communities currently turn a net profit from selling recycling, and all indications are that this will continue as technology improves, infrastructure is created, etc. Obviously recycled raw materials area commodity, and prices vary, etc, but the "someone else" you're giving stuff to is usually local government and they not only make up the costs of picking it up, but frequently also make money that likely lowers property taxes. Why do you love taxes?
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I'm pretty sure I'm overreacting, but I can't be the only person on here who would be angry about something like this.

Be less of an entitled douche bag. Now, we don't actually have "poors" here in our quiet suburban enclave, but I can imagine that if one showed up and was sorting through the recycling looking for 5 cent returnables that I'd lure it in with a bowl of milk or whatever it is they eat (Thunderbird?) so Hannah could see one, and then set it free in it's natural environment, a Tea Party rally.
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Hmm. A citizen of the "Land of Opportunity" shows initiative by commercially exploiting your discarded items, and you want to call in the cops?

Selfish, inconsiderate behaviour on your part.

FFS. If they're harming your recycling contractor's income, let them police their own **** business. Otherwise, why not leave her be?

/Facepalm.
Unfortunately someone is already engaged in this particular commercial endeavor,namely the trash/recycle co. &/or municipality.
We have been specifically advised by our local police to call about this activity as it is also the second most common "street" source of Identity theft material (behind mailbox theft). Not to mention being unsanitary as ****.
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Unfortunately someone is already engaged in this particular commercial endeavor,namely the trash/recycle co. &/or municipality.


Sounds anti-competitive to me. Why do you hate capitalism?

Fucking pinko mutants.
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I thought once it went curbside it was public domain or is that only in my crazy segment of canuck land?
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Once you put it out, in Trash co. bin, its no longer yours to give.

Then it's not really yours to worry about either.
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I thought once it went curbside it was public domain or is that only in my crazy segment of canuck land?

My limited understanding, not being fluent in all laws regarding trash collection, is that it technically belongs to the garbage company. I would assume this only comes up if you decide the chair you threw away was a priceless antique and try to sue the garbage service for taking it or something.

A year or two ago, I bought a new refrigerator and Sears wanted to charge me a $20 "disposal/recycling fee" to take my old one. I told them to just leave it and just humped it on down to the curb. Within an hour, some guy drove by in an old pick-up with built-up sides and just loaded full of scrap. He stops, looks at the fridge, looks at his full truck and I could just see the wheels turning. There was no way in **** he was going to leave a refrigerator behind for someone else to grab. He had a dolly on the back of the truck with the lip hanging out and, by himself, sort of "walk flipped" the fridge up onto the lip and used bungee cords and rubber cables to lash it to the back of the truck. Then drove off with that thing hanging about 80% off the dolly. I can only hope he made it back to Scrapman HQ without it falling off onto the hood of someone else's car but all I really knew was that it wasn't my problem any more.
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Generally, but a municipality can always enact policies to make it a misdemeanor if it becomes a large enough problem, citing public health issues or identity theft or such.
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My limited understanding, not being fluent in all laws regarding trash collection, is that it technically belongs to the garbage company. I would assume this only comes up if you decide the chair you threw away was a priceless antique and try to sue the garbage service for taking it or something.


Ya the only reason I know about it myself is because some local deadbeat stabbed some old dude then tossed the knife out in his trash. He tried to get charges dropped because the cops searched through his trash without a warrant, but they were upheld because once it goes to the curb its technically not protected under search and seizure regulations, as it entered public domain.

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Kinda feel sorry for that ****. he looks guilty as all **** but, so sad at the same time.
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Once you put it out, in Trash co. bin, its no longer yours to give.

Then it's not really yours to worry about either.
I guess this is probably the best way to think about it.
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I don't mind people taking my trash. In fact, I use them as a reliable source to get rid of large items without having to pay anything extra. Smaller items I think someone might find useful I'll set aside on the curb and let some dude take that old box of VHS tapes to sell for 10¢ each at the flea market. Provided they don't make a mess, more power to 'em.

But if I asked someone to stop pawing through my trash and they steadfastly refused, I'm sure I'd have an issue with it as well.


My neighborhood is particularly good at leaving treasures on the curb. Things I've collected from my nearest neighbors (the ones I can see the curb from our house)
-A green painted picnic table that we use as a garden extension to hold potted plants
-A flat screen monitor (not widescreen, but it was still an upgrade for one of our computers, and now I have two!)
-A two-foot tall bird bath in the shape of a mushroom

I'm not a dumpster diver, my mother does indeed make a business out of it when the nicer suburbs have their "spring clean up" days and she usually gets some pretty cool retro furniture out of the deal, just truckfulls of swag. People are so wasteful.
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While true, in my case I set it out knowing it'll get picked up. I could waste my time haggling over five bucks for a box of baby toys on Craigslist or dealing with the idiots on Freecycle or I could just set it on the curb and watch some dude take it within the hour. I'm happy to know it's either going into someone else's home or some guy will get a few bucks off it via salvage or flea market.
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Things I've collected from my nearest neighbors [...] I'm not a dumpster diver,
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I just took a long lunch to go shop at the Goodwill - it's kind of like dumpster diving. I bought a souvenir of the World Trade Center.

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True. In 2003. Many communities currently turn a net profit from selling recycling, and all indications are that this will continue as technology improves, infrastructure is created, etc. Obviously recycled raw materials area commodity, and prices vary, etc, but the "someone else" you're giving stuff to is usually local government and they not only make up the costs of picking it up, but frequently also make money that likely lowers property taxes. Why do you love taxes?


*cough*. The recycling centers are typically subsidized as well. At some point in the chain, we are collectively paying more to recycle than we get in return for recycling. We trade off cost for a small amount of environmental benefit. I suppose if we focused on the 5% of things we recycle which are actually cost effective to recycle, we could do both, but as long as the blue bins take anything that's plastic, aluminum, or paper, there's no way to make that profitable as an entire industry.
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Just like oil, then.

They are exactly the same, and there is not a single difference.
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I just took a long lunch to go shop at the Goodwill - it's kind of like dumpster diving. I bought a souvenir of the World Trade Center.



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Some communities leave everything on the curb for others to scavenge before WM comes and picks it up. I've furnished half my apartments with curbside shopping.
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I just took a long lunch to go shop at the Goodwill - it's kind of like dumpster diving. I bought a souvenir of the World Trade Center.


Which one?


Too soon.
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#51 Jan 17 2013 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
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*cough*. The recycling centers are typically subsidized as well. At some point in the chain, we are collectively paying more to recycle than we get in return for recycling. We trade off cost for a small amount of environmental benefit. I suppose if we focused on the 5% of things we recycle which are actually cost effective to recycle, we could do both, but as long as the blue bins take anything that's plastic, aluminum, or paper, there's no way to make that profitable as an entire industry.

Nope. Just completely wrong, sorry. Maybe stop making wild guesses and do some research.
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