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#1 Jan 09 2013 at 7:46 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Zymunn wrote:
Gbaji, decide if you want your words to be taken literal or figuratively when you make your claims(point). I quoted what you said that food stamps aren't effective. You mean that, in your experience, people are not wise about it.

Yes. Which is part of the reason why they aren't effective.

Seeing as they kept me fed, they were very effective.

No. The food stamps allowed you to not have to choose between food and a car. The food stamps paid for part of your car and insurance, not the food. If you had not had food stamps, which would you have done: Starved to death? Or sold the car? Assuming you would not have actually starved to death, then the food stamps helped you keep your car.

Which is the point I was making.

At no point in time do I remember paying my car or insurance with food stamps. I clearly remember them going towards food at the grocery store.

I am a diabetic of 27 yrs. When I got on my feet a month before I had to renew my food stamps assistance I did not bother. It achieved its purpose. How big or small of a percentage my attitude falls into is not something you can just pull out of your ***. When you make those claims, you are expected to pull up varifiable sources. That is just decency.

You just provided the best source I could use to convince *you* of what I'm talking about. I'll ask again: Imagine there was no food stamps. What would you have done? Food is an incredibly inelastic product. People will buy enough so that they don't actually starve. This is why we use terms like "food insecurity" btw. Almost no one starves in the US because of poverty, so we focus on whether people have what we've determined to be a sufficient amount of food instead. You *would* have survived without food stamps. You'd just have had to focus more of your own efforts on food instead of other things. This is why I made the claim that food stamps mostly end out paying for things other than food.

In your case, the food stamps helped make your car payments.

Unless you would have chosen to make a car payment and consigned yourself to starvation? That seems incredibly unlikely.

Edited, Jan 9th 2013 5:17pm by gbaji

I have starved for weeks at a time. Not the greatest thing for myself but it was the choice I made. The first four months being in MT I did not have food stamps. The end of second month/ beginning of third I got them. I ate very little and completely @#%^ed up the bit of stability I had til then.

Also way to avoid directly answering what I asked in the first place. You have, however, clearly shown that you want what you said taken as "this suits my argument" and as such will respond to what you directly said. To be clear: food stamps are not people and so can not choose to be misused or abused. Way to go buddy.

Edited, Jan 9th 2013 8:48pm by Zymunn
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