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#27 Jan 08 2013 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare).


Actually, January 2nd, the earth was the closest to the sun that it will be this whole year.
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Elinda wrote:
Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare).


Actually, January 2nd, the earth was the closest to the sun that it will be this whole year.


Winter isn't about the distance from the sun, but the angle that the rays hit the part of the Earth you are in.
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Elinda wrote:
Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare).


Actually, January 2nd, the earth was the closest to the sun that it will be this whole year.


Winter isn't about the distance from the sun, but the angle that the rays hit the part of the Earth you are in.

Yeah, that. Smiley: blush
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#30 Jan 08 2013 at 5:37 PM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
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Elinda wrote:
Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare).


Actually, January 2nd, the earth was the closest to the sun that it will be this whole year.


Winter isn't about the distance from the sun, but the angle that the rays hit the part of the Earth you are in.

Yeah, that. Smiley: blush


I know that, I was addressing what was actually said, not what was intended Smiley: lol
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#31 Jan 08 2013 at 6:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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If it's cloudy - all the better. You won't get sunburned.
You absolutely can get sunburned on a cloudy day. If the UV rays are high, you may actually be more likely to as its probably not warm enough to warn you to get out of the sun. ******* ball of fire doesn't need to be seen to do its damage.
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#32 Jan 08 2013 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
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Ya, I remember them warning about cloudy winter days, people getting easily sunburned because they think it's safer, staying out longer, etc.
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#33 Jan 09 2013 at 7:12 AM Rating: Good
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If it's cloudy - all the better. You won't get sunburned.
You absolutely can get sunburned on a cloudy day. If the UV rays are high, you may actually be more likely to as its probably not warm enough to warn you to get out of the sun. @#%^ing ball of fire doesn't need to be seen to do its damage.

Sure, if you're laying out in the ocean in the tropics in a swimsuit with a reflector stuck under your chin.

Going for a walk in Georgia in January isn't going to put you at high risk for sunburn - even with fair skin. I imagine Cat is going out in her swimsuit, slathered in oil.

But hey, if another excuse is going to keep people inside staring at a computer screen, don't forget the chances for getting pooped on by bird go WAY up when you step out of your house.

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Sure, if you're laying out in the ocean in the tropics in a swimsuit with a reflector stuck under your chin.

Going for a walk in Georgia in January isn't going to put you at high risk for sunburn - even with fair skin. I imagine Cat is going out in her swimsuit, slathered in oil.

Spoken like someone without very fair skin.

I didn't say she shouldn't go out. I only disputed your claim that she can't burn. 30 minutes outside in the winter is guaranteed to give me a slight sunburn. 10 minutes in the summer. That's not a severe sunburn, but a sunburn nonetheless.
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But hey, if another excuse is going to keep people inside staring at a computer screen

Ugly is part of the vast "Keep everyone on the computer" conspiracy!

Really, I learned about the whole "You can get sunburned on a cloudy day" thing in grade school back when pilgrims still rode dinosaurs.
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But hey, if another excuse is going to keep people inside staring at a computer screen

Ugly is part of the vast "Keep everyone on the computer" conspiracy!

Really, I learned about the whole "You can get sunburned on a cloudy day" thing in grade school back when pilgrims still rode dinosaurs.

Well sure, so did I. In the summer when the sun is hitting you full on (angle not distance) and you're at the beach with the water reflecting the sun - you can get badly sunburned even through clouds - not as sunburned as you would if there were no clouds, but yes, yes you can get sunburned. But you're going to get much less sun and be at much less risk for sunburn than you would if it was a full sunny July day. Besides, Cat was the one who gave the excuse of not getting vitamin D from being outside because it was cloudy most of the time. Clouds will filter some UV rays - not all.

Dear Ugly, my daughter has extremely fair skin. Being her parent, i had to take care to insure against sun burn. She wears light weight long sleeves and sun hats if she had to be out in the sun for any length of time. She never had to resort to avoiding the outdoors because of her fair skin. Walk on a shady street for christs sake.

Or you know, take a pill iif it makes you feel better about your unhealthy lifestyle - just stop with the fucking excuses already.

Edit - better yet, I'm jumping on the nobby/smash bandwagon (Smiley: inlove)- frickin' hypochondriacs .



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Once again, I did not say don't go outside. Only that you can burn on a cloudy day. Reading comprehension, it is your friend..
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Once again, I did not say don't go outside. Only that you can burn on a cloudy day. Reading comprehension, it is your friend..


Not if it doesn't allow you get a little zinger in.
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#40 Jan 09 2013 at 1:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, so can we agree on only going outside at night?
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Is moonlight safe? I know it's reflected sunlight, but does the moon act as, I dunno, a burn sponge or something?

Cuz I totally dig moonlight walks.

And this isn't to say I'm completely adverse to the outdoors. I only particularly hate beaches. I love hiking in the woods and I like properly civilized swimming pools. But I usually have on high socks and a wide brimmed hat for hiking, as well as the "not @#%^ing around" sunblock and bug repellent combo.

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Just eat some fish dammit.
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#43 Jan 10 2013 at 3:01 AM Rating: Good
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I have skin so pale most makeup companies don't even make makeup shades for it. Fifteen minutes in direct sunlight is enough to cause me to experience mild sunburn. I may not sparkle, but there's a reason I slather on SP 50 any time I plan on being outdoors.


Heh, same here. If I had more freckles and red hair, I'd be a ginger. I think between my multi-vitamin and the extra Vit. D supplements I take, I get about 3000 IU a day. I take it for my ADHD and tendencies towards depression though, not any physical symptoms. Along with a few other vitamins. Hopefully your symptoms aren't indicative of anything serious.
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For the first 6 months after we found out my D levels were "on the floor", under doctor's orders I went out every day, summer and winter, and spent 15 minutes naked on my back, and then my front, with no sunscreen, in my back courtyard. If my father in law was home, I wore my panties and bra. During Winter I wore Ugg boots and panties and bra, and the courtyard was sheltered enough, that I could bear the "nude" sunbathing around noon.

After 6 months, my D levels were still "only just off the floor, and still badly insufficient. If it doesn't improve to minimum levels, you will need a vitamin D perfusion straight into your bone". So next step was nude sunbathing WITH extra fish AND "Normal" but high vitamin D supplementation in a multivitamin supplement that my Neurologist recommended. (don't ask why my neurologist was monitoring my D levels). 6 months after that, my D level was improved but only by a miniscule amount. Thats when I was put on the pink pill: 25,000 IU of D3. 6 months later, my vit D was halfway to the normal minimum level. Since it was on a nice upward trend, I was sent away with more of the pink pills, to continue WITH nude sunbathing, WITH extra fish, and WITH the recommended multivitamin for reaction catalysers.

Edited, Jan 10th 2013 4:39am by Aripyanfar
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How cold is Australian winter? Or how warm, whatever applies.
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It is salubrious by northern European and US standards. No "real" snow where people live. About 12C (54 F) daily highs where I live in Winter. It used to get a bit colder sometimes, but not so much these recent years.

It's very sad, but a bunch of tourists died of dehydration/Heat exhaustion during this Summer's heatwave, the last couple of months. We've had a bunch of days over 40C (104F), and a lot of foreigners just aren't used to that type of temperature. Some of the most popular tourist destinations are in the heart of the interior desert, and they've been closer to 50C (122F) and over.

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Ah, that's how our winter is going at the moment... a good 10-15°C too warm if you ask me. Winter really isn't any fun if there's only mud and rain instead of ice and snow.
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Welcome to ACC. Smiley: frown

Don't worry too hard. Greenland is melting fast enough to eventually shut down the Gulf Stream, and then temperatures will be much colder where you are!

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Hopefully I'll have moved to Norway before that happens. Also for the past couple of years our winters have actually gotten colder and colder, I went skating on a frozen lake last year. Maybe this year will pull through in the end but so far it's terribly disappointing.
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I had no instructions regarding nude sunbathing - yet. I go in for a follow up visit in the beginning of February, at which point I may yet get a "get the **** outdoors" speech.

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Since I still haven't hit minimum necessary levels of vit D yet, I saw this as an obligation to buy myself 5 new summer dresses that are all short, and short sleeved. Smiley: grin

Also a nice pair of barely there sandals. (with really good structured soles that are like walking on clouds. I can walk further in them than my other shoes!)
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