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#1 Jan 07 2013 at 3:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Last week I went to my GP because of some weird symptoms - most of them matched that of a dysfunctional thyroid, so I wanted to get tested. I've been tired all the time, have trouble losing weight even with diet and exercise, get muscle cramps, am very sensitive to the cold (it's 70F in the house and I'm wrapped in a blanket), and other things.

My doctor sent me in for blood testing and said he'd call as soon as there was anything to say.

Well, the thing to say today was this: My vitamin D levels were so low I needed to start taking massive supplements today. (Anything else can wait until we meet again next month.)

It's funny, because the calcium chews I take have the RDA for vitamin D already in them, Apparently, my aversion to sunlight and milk means that isn't enough.

There are other disorders that can lead to vitamin D problems that I suspect he'll have me tested for, but at least it's not ovarian cancer, which he warned was a very unlikely possibility but one nonetheless based on the symptoms I went in for. (He was leaning toward PCOS, which it apparently is not.)

The upside? My cholesterol levels are acceptable. So, even if I'm still a fatty, all that diet and exercise is at least doing something. I am officially among the "fit/fat" who are obese without presentations of metabolic syndrome.
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#2 Jan 07 2013 at 3:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wow thats a bummer, cat. Keep us posted on what happens.

In the meantime, what does the doctor suggest for these "massive" amounts of supplements? If you are already on the RDA and presumably it's just not absorbing, how will taking more help?

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To put it in perspective, the amount I take with my calcium chews includes 1000 IU.

The mega pills I got prescribed are fifty times that.

I think that if I test low again in a month, they'll know its an absorption issue and go from there.

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Let me guess, little green capsules, take one once a week?
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Blue, but yes, once a week.

I took one as soon as I got home from the store and I do feel a bit more energetic already, but that's probably a placebo effect. Smiley: laugh
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Won't all that extra calcium in your system waiting to be absorbed or excreted cause kidney stones?
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So, looks like you're taking the blue pill.
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Roommate is on the 50,000 IU green pill. It does help tremendously with the cramps and exhaustion. Hope everything works out for you.
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Baby's in Reno with the vitamin D,
Got a couple of couches, sleep on the love seat,

I have no idea what that means.
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Got a couple of couches, sleep on the love seat,

I have no idea what that means.


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Glad you found some answers and have something to help you. I was in a similair boat a few months back: exhausted, could not lose weight no matter what I did, etc. I finally got to an endocrinologist, and after extensive bloodwork, while the numbers said I was haircross borderline normal, all of the other tests they ran showed I had hypothyroidism. On top of that I was also very low on vitamin D. I now take a daily horsepill size of Vitamin D. After about a week, along with a careful diet, I noticed a big change in my energy. Still finding it diificult to lose any weight, but my bloodwork since then has shown drastic improvements. Good luck and I hope that you see the changes soon! Keep us posted

ETA: I was prescribed a daily Vitamin D at 5000 IU

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Hooray for finding a problem that can be remedied!

I've recentishly discovered that powdered supplements mixed with a glass of water, or liquid supplements, are absorbed by me HEAPS better than packed tablets, or even capsules. If I'm taking a tablet, I take an enzyme capsule with it, to help digest it.
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I've been thinking of switching over to the gummy adult vitamins they now sell, also because I hear they are absorbed so much better.

Funny enough about all that calcium - it's not there. My platelet donations ensure that all the calcium gets chelated out of my blood on a pretty regular basis, and if I don't load up on supplements just before I go on, I'll experience a calcium crash during my donation. Calcium levels were normal.
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How weird. A friend of ours is having some strange issues, and the doctors think he may have a vitamin D deficiency. He's having some weird chest pains, some numbness, and overall icky feelings. They think some of the vitamin D deficiency symptoms (which they say can be pretty wacky) are causing him to freak out and have some anxiety attacks.

But they aren't SURE it's a vitamin D deficiency yet, so there's that, too.
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I've been thinking of switching over to the gummy adult vitamins they now sell, also because I hear they are absorbed so much better.
If you're anything like me, they're also much easier to remember to take. I've never been good about remembering my vitamins, but I haven't missed more than a handful of days in the year or so since I started on the gummies.
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I bet your doctor has stocks in Vitamin D supplement companies!.

Eat a bunch of tuna, or mushrooms call me in the morning.

Hope you get better!.
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Glad you found some answers and have something to help you. I was in a similair boat a few months back: exhausted, could not lose weight no matter what I did, etc.

Weird, I have the same symptoms, but my doc told me: "We refer to that as "Being 40 year old with an infant".
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Glad you found some answers and have something to help you. I was in a similair boat a few months back: exhausted, could not lose weight no matter what I did, etc.

Weird, I have the same symptoms, but my doc told me: "We refer to that as "Being 40 year old with an infant".

Thank bob I have no infants. Mmmmm, love that uninterrupted sleep at night. Smiley: wink
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Last year when I was having atrocious lower back pain they ended up taking blood and found I had low vitamin D levels. Not really surprising considering I work in IT and spend all my free time away from the sun in front of my PC. They had me on the green pill for a couple weeks and it made a noticeable improvement. Since then I've been taking 400 IU daily and it seems to help, but I dunno.
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Last year when I was having atrocious lower back pain they ended up taking blood and found I had low vitamin D levels.

It's what they tell people they think are hypochondriacs.
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Has anyone who is, or has suffered from vitamin D deficiency tried prescribing themselves outside time? It seems so much more palatable than resorting to maintenance medication.



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Glad you're OK. Go make friends with the sun. I promise you won't sparkle if you step out into the sunlight.
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I have skin so pale most makeup companies don't even make makeup shades for it. Fifteen minutes in direct sunlight is enough to cause me to experience mild sunburn. I may not sparkle, but there's a reason I slather on SP 50 any time I plan on being outdoors.

It's also the cloudy season in Georgia, so even going outside with a milder SPF means I won't get much benefit from it.

I don't mind pills. It's a vitamin, not even really medication.
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Refreshing that the pharmaceutical conglomerates have an ever-increasing range of remedies for hypochondria. Smiley: cool
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I don't mind pills. It's a vitamin, not even really medication.
Not even a buzz..Smiley: frown

If it helps it's all good. But don't let pills take the place of a good diet and regular exercise - outside exercise. If it's cloudy - all the better. You won't get sunburned. Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare). Just find a destination to walk to three times a week and do it.

Also computers suck the life out of peeps - specially if you read too much gbaji.

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Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare).


Actually, January 2nd, the earth was the closest to the sun that it will be this whole year.
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Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare).


Actually, January 2nd, the earth was the closest to the sun that it will be this whole year.


Winter isn't about the distance from the sun, but the angle that the rays hit the part of the Earth you are in.
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Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare).


Actually, January 2nd, the earth was the closest to the sun that it will be this whole year.


Winter isn't about the distance from the sun, but the angle that the rays hit the part of the Earth you are in.

Yeah, that. Smiley: blush
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Also, sun in the winter is further away - less dangerous (sans snow-glare).


Actually, January 2nd, the earth was the closest to the sun that it will be this whole year.


Winter isn't about the distance from the sun, but the angle that the rays hit the part of the Earth you are in.

Yeah, that. Smiley: blush


I know that, I was addressing what was actually said, not what was intended Smiley: lol
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If it's cloudy - all the better. You won't get sunburned.
You absolutely can get sunburned on a cloudy day. If the UV rays are high, you may actually be more likely to as its probably not warm enough to warn you to get out of the sun. **** ball of fire doesn't need to be seen to do its damage.
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Ya, I remember them warning about cloudy winter days, people getting easily sunburned because they think it's safer, staying out longer, etc.
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If it's cloudy - all the better. You won't get sunburned.
You absolutely can get sunburned on a cloudy day. If the UV rays are high, you may actually be more likely to as its probably not warm enough to warn you to get out of the sun. @#%^ing ball of fire doesn't need to be seen to do its damage.

Sure, if you're laying out in the ocean in the tropics in a swimsuit with a reflector stuck under your chin.

Going for a walk in Georgia in January isn't going to put you at high risk for sunburn - even with fair skin. I imagine Cat is going out in her swimsuit, slathered in oil.

But hey, if another excuse is going to keep people inside staring at a computer screen, don't forget the chances for getting pooped on by bird go WAY up when you step out of your house.

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Sure, if you're laying out in the ocean in the tropics in a swimsuit with a reflector stuck under your chin.

Going for a walk in Georgia in January isn't going to put you at high risk for sunburn - even with fair skin. I imagine Cat is going out in her swimsuit, slathered in oil.

Spoken like someone without very fair skin.

I didn't say she shouldn't go out. I only disputed your claim that she can't burn. 30 minutes outside in the winter is guaranteed to give me a slight sunburn. 10 minutes in the summer. That's not a severe sunburn, but a sunburn nonetheless.
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But hey, if another excuse is going to keep people inside staring at a computer screen

Ugly is part of the vast "Keep everyone on the computer" conspiracy!

Really, I learned about the whole "You can get sunburned on a cloudy day" thing in grade school back when pilgrims still rode dinosaurs.
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Ugly is part of the vast "Keep everyone on the computer" conspiracy!

Really, I learned about the whole "You can get sunburned on a cloudy day" thing in grade school back when pilgrims still rode dinosaurs.

Well sure, so did I. In the summer when the sun is hitting you full on (angle not distance) and you're at the beach with the water reflecting the sun - you can get badly sunburned even through clouds - not as sunburned as you would if there were no clouds, but yes, yes you can get sunburned. But you're going to get much less sun and be at much less risk for sunburn than you would if it was a full sunny July day. Besides, Cat was the one who gave the excuse of not getting vitamin D from being outside because it was cloudy most of the time. Clouds will filter some UV rays - not all.

Dear Ugly, my daughter has extremely fair skin. Being her parent, i had to take care to insure against sun burn. She wears light weight long sleeves and sun hats if she had to be out in the sun for any length of time. She never had to resort to avoiding the outdoors because of her fair skin. Walk on a shady street for christs sake.

Or you know, take a pill iif it makes you feel better about your unhealthy lifestyle - just stop with the fucking excuses already.

Edit - better yet, I'm jumping on the nobby/smash bandwagon (Smiley: inlove)- frickin' hypochondriacs .



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Once again, I did not say don't go outside. Only that you can burn on a cloudy day. Reading comprehension, it is your friend..
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Once again, I did not say don't go outside. Only that you can burn on a cloudy day. Reading comprehension, it is your friend..


Not if it doesn't allow you get a little zinger in.
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Ok, so can we agree on only going outside at night?
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Is moonlight safe? I know it's reflected sunlight, but does the moon act as, I dunno, a burn sponge or something?

Cuz I totally dig moonlight walks.

And this isn't to say I'm completely adverse to the outdoors. I only particularly hate beaches. I love hiking in the woods and I like properly civilized swimming pools. But I usually have on high socks and a wide brimmed hat for hiking, as well as the "not @#%^ing around" sunblock and bug repellent combo.

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Heh, same here. If I had more freckles and red hair, I'd be a ginger. I think between my multi-vitamin and the extra Vit. D supplements I take, I get about 3000 IU a day. I take it for my ADHD and tendencies towards depression though, not any physical symptoms. Along with a few other vitamins. Hopefully your symptoms aren't indicative of anything serious.
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For the first 6 months after we found out my D levels were "on the floor", under doctor's orders I went out every day, summer and winter, and spent 15 minutes naked on my back, and then my front, with no sunscreen, in my back courtyard. If my father in law was home, I wore my panties and bra. During Winter I wore Ugg boots and panties and bra, and the courtyard was sheltered enough, that I could bear the "nude" sunbathing around noon.

After 6 months, my D levels were still "only just off the floor, and still badly insufficient. If it doesn't improve to minimum levels, you will need a vitamin D perfusion straight into your bone". So next step was nude sunbathing WITH extra fish AND "Normal" but high vitamin D supplementation in a multivitamin supplement that my Neurologist recommended. (don't ask why my neurologist was monitoring my D levels). 6 months after that, my D level was improved but only by a miniscule amount. Thats when I was put on the pink pill: 25,000 IU of D3. 6 months later, my vit D was halfway to the normal minimum level. Since it was on a nice upward trend, I was sent away with more of the pink pills, to continue WITH nude sunbathing, WITH extra fish, and WITH the recommended multivitamin for reaction catalysers.

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How cold is Australian winter? Or how warm, whatever applies.
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It is salubrious by northern European and US standards. No "real" snow where people live. About 12C (54 F) daily highs where I live in Winter. It used to get a bit colder sometimes, but not so much these recent years.

It's very sad, but a bunch of tourists died of dehydration/Heat exhaustion during this Summer's heatwave, the last couple of months. We've had a bunch of days over 40C (104F), and a lot of foreigners just aren't used to that type of temperature. Some of the most popular tourist destinations are in the heart of the interior desert, and they've been closer to 50C (122F) and over.

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Ah, that's how our winter is going at the moment... a good 10-15°C too warm if you ask me. Winter really isn't any fun if there's only mud and rain instead of ice and snow.
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Welcome to ACC. Smiley: frown

Don't worry too hard. Greenland is melting fast enough to eventually shut down the Gulf Stream, and then temperatures will be much colder where you are!

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Hopefully I'll have moved to Norway before that happens. Also for the past couple of years our winters have actually gotten colder and colder, I went skating on a frozen lake last year. Maybe this year will pull through in the end but so far it's terribly disappointing.
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#50 Jan 10 2013 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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I had no instructions regarding nude sunbathing - yet. I go in for a follow up visit in the beginning of February, at which point I may yet get a "get the **** outdoors" speech.

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Since I still haven't hit minimum necessary levels of vit D yet, I saw this as an obligation to buy myself 5 new summer dresses that are all short, and short sleeved. Smiley: grin

Also a nice pair of barely there sandals. (with really good structured soles that are like walking on clouds. I can walk further in them than my other shoes!)
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