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#52 Jan 04 2013 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
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Oh. Smash? Ironically, about the only thing that can actually prevent a crime from being committed is an armed potential victim.

Except of course that it doesn't. Other than that, it's incredibly effective.
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#53 Jan 04 2013 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
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I've learned that if I carry around a gun, even if I don't want to, nothing bad will ever happen to me or anyone I'm around. Why do we even need the police or military? We can just give EVERYONE guns and the world will be a better place! Yay!
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I don't want a gun (can't own one legally, anyway), BUT I think we should give all civilian a brick wall.

That way, they won't need a civilian with a gun to kill someone who goes on a killing spree, they can just hide behind the wall until the shooting stops! Smiley: banghead
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#55 Jan 04 2013 at 9:37 PM Rating: Good
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I've learned that if I carry around a gun, even if I don't want to, nothing bad will ever happen to me or anyone I'm around. Why do we even need the police or military? We can just give EVERYONE guns and the world will be a better place! Yay!

Works in Somalia, amirite?
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We should just have rain barrels full of guns on every street corner. So any time you see a crime or something... BAM!... guy with a gun right there to start firing!

We'd be the safest place anywhere. We shouldn't even bother with licensing or restrictions or anything. When you're being rape-murdered, do you really care if the guy shooting your rape-murderist is licensed or a criminal himself? Of course not. You just want the other guy dead. And, for that, that man is going to need guns.

Edited, Jan 4th 2013 10:31pm by Jophiel
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#57 Jan 05 2013 at 4:07 AM Rating: Good
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I DON'T WANT A FRIGGIN GUN.

I do.

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I want gun control in place so those law-abiding citizens that NEED those guns aren't allowed to own them so that their insane relative can get a hold of them.

Well, **** you. I want good people to be able to protect themselves against bad people. You want good people to not have that option of protection against bad people. Guess which one sounds worse than the other.
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#58 Jan 05 2013 at 5:19 AM Rating: Good
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Deadgye wrote:
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I DON'T WANT A FRIGGIN GUN.

I do.

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I want gun control in place so those law-abiding citizens that NEED those guns aren't allowed to own them so that their insane relative can get a hold of them.

Well, @#%^ you. I want good people to be able to protect themselves against bad people. You want good people to not have that option of protection against bad people. Guess which one sounds worse than the other.

No where did I ever say that no one should have a gun. I said *I* don't want a gun and I don't think more guns is the answer.

So **** you.
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Edited, Jan 5th 2013 8:07am by BrownDuck
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#60 Jan 05 2013 at 9:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, @#%^ you. I want good people to be able to protect themselves against bad people. You want good people to not have that option of protection against bad people. Guess which one sounds worse than the other.
The more guns one, because bad people don't just go around shooting random people. You pretty much never have the need to defend yourself with a gun, ever.


Oh, and the less guns thing works pretty much everywhere else.
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#61 Jan 05 2013 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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At preventing everyone else from owning firearms? Yes. At preventing spree killings? Not so much.


LOL you should go look at some facts on that. I know you don't like facts but what the ****. Go read about Japan. The lowest per capita murder rate from guns in the world, and the lowest per capita gun ownership in the world. The government is entitled to perform search and seizure as they please, perhaps its a police state....but before you go off on a tangent about the people being able to fight back against government control...Tunisia toppled a 24 year old dictatorship despite having the second least number of guns per capita in the world...and conveniently launched the Arab spring.

Outside of hunting rifles guns serve no purpose other than killing people. It is their only purpose. Less Guns = Less Gun related murders. Numbers don't lie...of course you would have to accept facts as reliable sources of information...and we all know how you feel about facts.

Guns kill people. Period.

On the same day as Sandyhook a stabbing spree occurred in China...how many folks died in the stabbing spree 0. 0 @#%^ing people of 23 stabbed...You have to be able to see the difference. I hope.

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#62 Jan 05 2013 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm sure this will be relevant soon enough.
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#63 Jan 05 2013 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Here's a false dilemma: "If we take away guns, then people will use knives, if we take away knives, they'll use sticks, if we take away sticks, they'll use fists. Do you want to cut everyone's hands off?"



Actually, that's a slippery slope fallacy Smash. Try to keep them straight.


Nope. A slippery slope would be, "if they ban guns now, they'll ban knives next." It's an unsupported assumption of escalation.
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#64 Jan 05 2013 at 6:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Government won't know you're serious about overthrowing tyrants if you don't murder some citizens in a townhouse now and then. Second Amendment represent!
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#65 Jan 05 2013 at 9:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Man, this guy isn't even the worst maniac shooter in the local area.

Talk about B-league villains.
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Killing sprees do happen in countries with strict gun control. Two years ago a guy went nuts in Luik, Belgium. He used an assault weapon and hand grenades, killing six. (The assault weapon was Belgian, that's something I guess)

Then there's Hans van Themsche who shot and killed a two year old girl along with her nanny on the streets of Antwerp, after killing another woman. (Both women were of foreign origin, his motive)
That was seven years ago.


Then there's Van Gelder who stabbed three kids to death, after a trial kill of an elder woman. He wanted to kill everyone around him. I suppose it would have been seriously worse if he did have a gun.

The combining factor in all three cases was the mental state of the killers. All three were pretty nuts. Same with Breivik and the kid in Connecticut. Along with pretty much most sprees.
Guns do not kill people, people do that. It only makes it easier.

(And I'm not just saying that to defend the last profitable export product Belgium has, guns to the US mostly)
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So how many years did you have to go back to get two 'mass shooting' examples in foreign countries with stricter gun control laws?

I wonder how long you have to go back in the US to find two...
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Belgium has eleven million inhabitants, the US over threehundred million.

And the gun control in Belgium is about the strictest in the world.
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Killing sprees do happen in countries with strict gun control. Two years ago a guy went nuts in Luik, Belgium. He used an assault weapon and hand grenades, killing six. (The assault weapon was Belgian, that's something I guess)

The original point was to mitigate the amount of damage done. Pointing to rare occurrences every 3-4 years in a foreign country with strict laws (versus the "every three months" here in the US) only lends evidence to the effectiveness of those laws.

Put simpler, Gun Deaths per Capita Among Industrialized Nations

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#70 Jan 06 2013 at 11:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Killing sprees do happen in countries with strict gun control.


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#71 Jan 07 2013 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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Guns do not kill people, people do that. It only makes it easier.

That's the point.

You'll never rid the world of people that will do harm to other people. The absence of guns will minimize the impact.
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More people are kicked to death every year than killed with Assault Rifles (in Homicide cases, not Wars)
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#73 Jan 07 2013 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
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Firearms are equalizers.


So are nukes.
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More people are kicked to death every year than killed with Assault Rifles (in Homicide cases, not Wars)

Assuming this is true... And?
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#75 Jan 07 2013 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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Yep, how many people can you kill with 3 round shotgun vs say an AR-15 in 10 minutes?
Depending on the range, more with an AA-12.
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#76 Jan 07 2013 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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More people are kicked to death every year than killed with Assault Rifles (in Homicide cases, not Wars)

Assuming this is true... And?

I blame EQ snakes.
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