Yes, idiot. I'm talking about how I think things should be, not how they are now. And frankly, I think arguments of the form "the government is already doing X, so there's no point in preventing it from doing Y" are monumentally stupid.
You didn't mention a Y though, ...
Huh! Um... The "Y" in this case is using making information from gun registration lists public. The "X" is "we already have registration lists". The "the government is already doing X, so there's no point in preventing it from doing Y" argument stems from defending the use of the publishing of that data by pointing to the fact that we already collect it.
There's already a registry of everyone who *can* own a firearm, and backgrounds checks are fairly super easy and quick
And we only need to point to Sandy Hook to see how well "your" brilliant idea works.
My idea has never been implemented and is not designed to prevent an incident like Sandy Hook. But then, no other idea short of banning all weapons (which would require repealing the 2nd amendment) would prevent an incident like that either. Are you proposing we ban all firearms and confiscate all those already in possession of every citizen in the US? If you are, then state that and defend it.
And I see you've still avoided answering my question about the 4th (and 9th and14th) amendment as it relates to the principle of privacy. Shocking really.
Nah, shocking is how they've been answered and you're just not liking the answers so you're repeating yourself in hopes of getting a new answer.
Is this going to be yet another thread where you ignore something over and over, and then insist you "already answered that"? Cause that's always fun!
You insisted that there's no right to privacy when it comes to gun ownership because there's no right to privacy mentioned in the 2nd amendment. My response was that there's also no right to privacy mentioned in the 1st amendment either, yet the government isn't allowed to put a bug in your home to listen to you speak without a warrant. That's because the parts of the constitution which establish the concept of privacy are in other amendments (like the 4th, 9th, and 14th). The fact that this is confusing for your is your fault, not mine. Edited, Mar 1st 2013 6:34pm by gbaji