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#227 Jan 13 2013 at 8:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yet nobody's ever figured out what the **** your stance on anything is so really, is that our problem or are you just failing miserably at communicating your stance, if indeed you even have the guts to take one?
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#228Almalieque, Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 9:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're inaccurately positing "everyone" to make yourself feel better. The problem is with you, not me nor "everyone". There are people who have explicitly displayed understanding of my positions. If YOU have something that you don't understand, I say again, ask.
#229 Jan 13 2013 at 9:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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why so you can tell us all about how you explained it clearly in post #XXX and hem and haw about how no one understands you. Maybe its you? Ya its probably you. But at least you don't tell everyone how they are wrong, like Gbaji, I will give you that. While you seem to have trouble conveying your thoughts, you do not act like a windbag.

Edited, Jan 13th 2013 10:15am by rdmcandie
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#230 Jan 13 2013 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Alma and Gbaji share the same basic issue which is that they are terrible writers and try to make up for it with walls of text. Then try and claim their word-vomit is a virtue ("I'm giving so many details!") rather than a cover up for their deficiencies.
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#231 Jan 13 2013 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Alma and Gbaji share the same basic issue which is that they are terrible writers and try to make up for it with walls of text. Then try and claim their word-vomit is a virtue ("I'm giving so many details!") rather than a cover up for their deficiencies.


I'd say that they're terrible writers because they're terrible thinkers. Alma in particular seems to struggle with basic logic. If you were to try to construct an argument with him by saying "Okay, Alma, for the sake of this point, let's say that a "lep" is a ball..." he'd spend the next 57 pages arguing that lep isn't in a word.

That's the main reason that he can't articulate a position. He's also vaguely aware of his deficiencies, so some of his obfuscation is a subconscious attempt to keep his positions nebulous - that way he can always convince himself that he's right.
#232 Jan 13 2013 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
An inability to express oneself exacerbates a weak argument, especially with logic. If you have an idea in your head, but have trouble communicating it, then the links will often be lost.
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#233Almalieque, Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The problem in which you are referring to is when people intentionally misuse words to enhance their arguments. If you want to use "lep" to mean ball, then so be it, just don't argue any relevance between the words.
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Do you not remember my infamous ban for "double-posting", a rule that clearly only applies to me?

I barely pay attention to you these days, much less whatever forum-drama you get yourself involved in.
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#235Almalieque, Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 10:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well, in any case, my posts have been much shorter. The longer your posts, the less people read. Also, it saves a lot of time. My responses with Gbaji have been long, but mostly others are short.
#236 Jan 13 2013 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Almalieque wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Do you not remember my infamous ban for "double-posting", a rule that clearly only applies to me?

I barely pay attention to you these days, much less whatever forum-drama you get yourself involved in.


Well, in any case, my posts have been much shorter. The longer your posts, the less people read. Also, it saves a lot of time. My responses with Gbaji have been long, but mostly others are short.



People will read your posts if they are at all relevant. Your problem is irrelevance. You can not make a concrete argument, because you lack the basic understanding of the vast majority of the topics conversed here. Worse yet, you don't take the time to learn anything, you just continue your brain sperge and make yourself look more like an idiot. Really it has nothing to do with the length of your response, but your track record of content within the response.






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#237 Jan 13 2013 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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This looks to be a good place to leave this:


“Ordinary fools are all right; you can talk to them, and try to help them out. But pompous fools-guys who are fools and are covering it all over and impressing people as to how wonderful they are with all this hocus pocus-THAT, I CANNOT STAND! An ordinary fool isn't a faker; an honest fool is all right. But a dishonest fool is terrible!”
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#238 Jan 13 2013 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
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Friar Bijou wrote:
This looks to be a good place to leave this:


“Ordinary fools are all right; you can talk to them, and try to help them out. But pompous fools-guys who are fools and are covering it all over and impressing people as to how wonderful they are with all this hocus pocus-THAT, I CANNOT STAND! An ordinary fool isn't a faker; an honest fool is all right. But a dishonest fool is terrible!”
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#239 Jan 13 2013 at 7:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Let's have a quick show of hands from the people that can understand Alma's points.
#240 Jan 13 2013 at 8:17 PM Rating: Good
It really varies. Sometimes I can understand what he's trying to say, but the majority of the time, no. With Gbaji, I generally don't have the patience or the attention span to bother reading his huge walls of text.
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#241 Jan 13 2013 at 8:27 PM Rating: Default
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Let's have a quick show of hands from the people that can understand Alma's points.


This is easily dispelled. Every time someone claims that s/he is unable to understand what I'm saying, I ask to specifically point out what is confusing. However, no one has yet to do that, outside of "everything".

Given that the very said people ARE RESPONDING TO MY STATEMENTS, they have a level of understanding. If not, they are even more ridiculous for responding to something that they clearly have ZERO understanding to as opposed to asking for clarification.

Your move...

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#242 Jan 13 2013 at 8:30 PM Rating: Good
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Your move...

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#244 Jan 13 2013 at 9:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Is this a drinking game? I could get behind a drinking game.

But if it's in response to Alma, I don't know what he said.
#245 Jan 13 2013 at 10:27 PM Rating: Good
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I have tried before to guess a point that Alma has made. Almost every time, I get a, "Close, but you missed this..." response. I think it's pretty obvious that I can't understand him.

If I remember correctly, the last time someone asked him his stance on same-*** marriage, the answer was something along the lines of, "I oppose it for personal reasons that I won't divulge because it will muck up the current discussion."

From the "Firearms" thread, I sort of caught that his stance was that he believes in gun control, but not complete eradication. He has said time and again that he is a "centrist." I am honestly not sure what that means.
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He has said time and again that he is a "centrist." I am honestly not sure what that means.

He has a fetish for pennies.
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#247 Jan 14 2013 at 6:59 AM Rating: Good
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It really varies. Sometimes I can understand what he's trying to say, but the majority of the time, no. With Gbaji, I generally don't have the patience or the attention span to bother reading his huge walls of text.


I'd read more of gbaji's posts (as I've got nothing against long posts in-and-of themselves), but he almost always leads off with a fallacy or incorrect statement so egregious that there's no reason to continue on.
#248 Jan 14 2013 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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There's that, and you can eliminate a good 80%~90% of the text if you skip the rhetorical questions and ridiculous hypotheticals.
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#249 Jan 14 2013 at 9:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu wrote:
Let's have a quick show of hands from the people that can understand Alma's points.


I usually do, though I wish I didn't sometimes. Smiley: rolleyes

He tends to take a definition or argument and extend it to a point most people here wouldn't; or apply it in a way that is atypical. If you go back and follow his logic it can make perfect sense, despite the fact the conclusion is baffling to most everyone here. It reminds me of the thought experiments one of my philosophy professors was fond of doing.

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Now, all those times you told me never to talk to Alma. Yeah... Smiley: disappointed
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#250 Jan 14 2013 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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Do as I say, not as I do and all that. And everyone has their weak moments.
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#251 Jan 14 2013 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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True. Like the time I fucked that horse.
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