That's not the same though.
Probably because votes aren't guns, huh?
Correct. Good thing I never said that. That was a bizarre strawman you pulled out all on your own. I said that the voting is a replacement for fighting in a civil war, and that each person
voting was equivalent to an armed person
fighting for his side in a civil war. I never directly equated guns to votes, or bullets to votes. Those were silly responses form the peanut gallery.
For instance, guns aren't an action.
Correct. The physical paper you write on when you vote isn't an action either. The act of voting is an action. And the act of fighting is an action. The difference is whether we decide who wins by counting up votes on pieces of paper, or by having the sides fight it out for real.
When you purchase a gun, it tends to stay where you put it. When you cast a vote, you're done. You don't carry a vote in your pocket. You can't sell a vote as a physical item. You can't stockpile votes in your basement. Amazing!
Yes. But the results of that vote don't disappear immediately after voting either. And you retain the right to vote in each election. It's not about the physical vote, but the concept of "being able to vote". Similarly, it's not about the physical gun, but the concept of "being able to own a gun" that matters here.
I'm treating guns as votes within the framework we have for voting and applying it to physical, permanent objects.
Which isn't what I originally was talking about. I was talking about treating "registering to vote" the same as "registering to own a gun". And I'm more than happy to apply the same rules to both. Tracking every gun purchase would be equivalent to tracking how you voted.
You're hung up on ignoring these obvious differences and pretending that they're the same things.
No. I'm saying that those obvious differences only matter to someone who's ignoring what I'm saying and arguing a strawman instead. You can't treat guns identically to votes because, as you yourself pointed out, there are differences between them. Which is why I didn't propose that. I proposed that we use the same method to register people's legal ability to vote as we'd use to register people's legal ability to buy guns. You're trying to expand that into something I never argued for.
I'll ask for the third time: Do you have a disagreement with what I proposed? If so, why? You still haven't really addressed this. Edited, Feb 14th 2013 5:43pm by gbaji