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#1 Nov 26 2012 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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NPR featured a story this morning about giving and taking.

In 1974 this sociologist decided to see what would happen if he sent out 600 x-mas cards to random strangers. He got a more than 200 back - some including hand-written letters and family photos.

The Rule: Thou shall not take without giving in return

A much more practical application of the rule:

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If a server brings you a check and does not include a candy on the check tray, you will tip the server whatever it is that you feel the server deserves. "But if there's a mint on the tray, tips go up 3.3 percent," Cialdini says.

According to Cialdini, the researchers who did that study also discovered that if while delivering the tray with the mint the server paused, looked the customers in the eye, and then gave them a second mint while telling them the candy was specifically for them, "tips went through the roof."

Servers who gave a second mint got a 20 percent increase over their normal tip.


The story goes on to cite successful examples of groups essentially exploiting the rule of reciprocation - mostly to make money in the form of donations: Remembrance poppies, pre-printed labels holiday labels etc...all stuff you're given, without solicitation, in the hopes you'll feel obligated to donate to the cause in return.

For you x-mas celebrators, do you send out cards?

Is your card list based on cards you've received either this year or in the past?

Do you use and/or donate for those free 'personalized' address labels?

I send out holiday cards occasionally - not every year. I've found that people will reciprocate for 3 or 4 years before bumping you off the list.

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#2 Nov 26 2012 at 7:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Flea sends out cards. Well, these days it's "Designs a card online and has them print and mail them to a list of people" rather than the olden days of writing out cards and addressing them and adding personal notes to each. Our list isn't really dependent upon anyone else sending us a card, partially because it's so painless to add another person to the list.

I've never used the unsolicited pre-printed charity labels. Flea donates to St. Jude's so they send them as well and we used to use those in our "pre-internet designed card" days. Now they just sit around until they get tossed.

Also, you totally snaked my usual Christmas-time sig Smiley: mad

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#3 Nov 26 2012 at 8:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
NPR featured a story this morning about giving and taking.

In 1974 this sociologist decided to see what would happen if he sent out 600 x-mas cards to random strangers. He got a more than 200 back - some including hand-written letters and family photos.

That's $270 just in stamps today o_O
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Obviously this calls for a government grant.
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#5 Nov 26 2012 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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3.3% more tip for a mint? No.
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What if it's served off the Hooters girl's boob?
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#7 Nov 26 2012 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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I'd tip extra if the server brought me some Trident gum. Starlight mints are terrible.

#8 Nov 26 2012 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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trickybeck wrote:

I'd tip extra if the server brought me some Trident gum. Starlight mints are terrible.


The Andes mints are good. I don't think that the presence of mints influences my tip.

There's a Chinese place we go to that serves pineapple chunks with your bill. My husband loves the pineapple chunks and will happily eat mine portion after getting clearance. It's not even fresh pineapple, but canned stuff. I think he'd probably reduce a tip if he didn't get his pineapple at that particular establishment.

A mint-flavored tums left with the bill would be appreciated, but probably not a good business practice for a restaurant.
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#9 Nov 26 2012 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:

For you x-mas celebrators, do you send out cards?

Is your card list based on cards you've received either this year or in the past?

Do you use and/or donate for those free 'personalized' address labels?


No, no, use only.

Eventually you'd think they'd stop sending us those labels. Besides it has got to be much more cost effective to shake down rich people.
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#10 Nov 26 2012 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
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Eventually you'd think they'd stop sending us those labels. Besides it has got to be much more cost effective to shake down rich people.

Apparently not. They only cost $0.09/sheet.

I had used them a couple times - without donating. Then I got pissed cuz they only put my husbands name on them. I don't recall getting any for the last couple years.
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#11 Nov 26 2012 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
Eventually you'd think they'd stop sending us those labels. Besides it has got to be much more cost effective to shake down rich people.

Apparently not. They only cost $0.09/sheet.


Interesting...

I have the sudden urge to start up my own non-profit with ridiculously high administrative costs.
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#12 Nov 26 2012 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
When it comes to eating out, I generally tip $5 for every $20 on the bill. Keeps things easy and I've never had a problem getting solid repeat service. Mints are optional, but mints on boobs should be mandatory, I think.
#13 Nov 26 2012 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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<insert Reservoir Dogs scene here>

I tip whatever my wife tells me to. Her mother is a veteran waitress so she tends to be on the generous side.

Oh, and I don't do Christmas cards. A Facebook message is all I bother with these days.

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5 for every 20! That is generous..

I just round to the nearest zero by increments of 5. For example, if I get charged anything between 10 to 15, it's rounded to 15. Anywhere from 15 to 20, rounded to 20 so forth and so on.

If the price is within a dollar or two from the nearest zero, then I take other variables in consideration.
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Jophiel wrote:
What if it's served off the Hooters girl's boob?


The one and only time I was at a Hooters I was chatting up the girls and found out that a surprising (and somewhat disturbing) number of them are under eighteen. That could just be a peculiarity of the one I was in, but I never went back. Not because they where underage, but because the food sucked. Nice tits aren't worth an overpriced crappy meal. That's my Hooter's story, feel free to steal it.
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I'm actually more curious to see how many he got back the next Christmas. Near the end it mentions that some sent cards for 15 years after that. I wonder how many new people replied the following year due to adding them onto their list for the following year and the percentages of responses for future years after the first.
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When it comes to eating out, I generally tip $5 for every $20 on the bill.

25%? Too much, honestly, unless there was exceptional service. We tip in the 20% range, but even for poor service, 15%. That second part is mostly Nexa. She's a socialist, and doesn't buy my argument of the free market driving out the ****** waitstaff eventually through poverty.

When you start tipping 25% for average service you run into the issue of having to buy the really great servers ponies and ****. Who needs that?
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When you start tipping 25% for average service you run into the issue of having to buy the really great servers ponies and sh*t. Who needs that?

Pony farmers.
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Turin wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
What if it's served off the Hooters girl's boob?


The one and only time I was at a Hooters I was chatting up the girls and found out that a surprising (and somewhat disturbing) number of them are under eighteen. That could just be a peculiarity of the one I was in, but I never went back. Not because they where underage, but because the food sucked. Nice tits aren't worth an overpriced crappy meal. That's my Hooter's story, feel free to steal it.


It wasn't until my third visit to a US Hooters that I didn't get food poison. I really do love the wings.

Poor girls didn't realize that I'm a veteran of OJF (Operation Juicy Freedom) aka Korea for 3 years and am expert of not shelling out money to pretty and/or sexy girls.
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I've always heard that "double the tax" is a good base for a tip, so when I have to I use that and round it to a nearest something. Which means something around 16%.
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#21Almalieque, Posted: Nov 26 2012 at 9:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) My counter is and has always been "God only asks for 10%, why are you asking for more? Are you greater than GOD!!?!?". Given, I've never been a waiter..Smiley: cool
#22 Nov 26 2012 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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When it comes to eating out, I generally tip $5 for every $20 on the bill.

25%? Too much, honestly


Absolutely, but I don't mind helping out the less fortunate. Also, there was the time I was at a local watering hole and ran into someone I'd probably never speak to under any other circumstance, but who made it a point during the course of casual conversation to ask if I lived in a certain part of town. When I confirmed and asked why, he noted that he remembered me from delivering a few pizzas our way and said that nobody else he'd ever delivered a pizza to tipped like I did and that he wanted me to know it was very much appreciated. He was a young man in his early twenties, and by the looks of him, not going very far in life, but it was a nice gesture for him to explicitly and sincerely thank me like that.
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Absolutely, but I don't mind helping out the less fortunate.

That's the government's job. Let them tip my waitress, that's why I pay taxes.
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BrownDuck wrote:
Absolutely, but I don't mind helping out the less fortunate.

I got two words for that; learn to fuckin' type.
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#25 Nov 27 2012 at 5:44 AM Rating: Good
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When you start tipping 25% for average service you run into the issue of having to buy the really great servers ponies and sh*t. Who needs that?

Pony farmers.


They get enough business from the restaurants around here as it is.
#26 Nov 27 2012 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
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18-20% tip for normal service. 20-25% for above average service.

When I first moved the family out here to Maine, I worked part time at a high end that was housed in with a yacht club. We saw lots of tourists and yachtsmen and yachting tourists. In general the New Yorkers were heads above any other particular group of people in their tips - always 25% or better.

Alma you should not eat out at places with sit-down service. You don't know what may be in your food.
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