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#102 Dec 04 2012 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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Israel isn't required to submit to inspections because Israel isn't a signatory to the Nonproliferation Act. Iran is.
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What if we just gave everyone in B.C. a snow-shovel for Christmas? They surely come along willingly then.


I don't see why, they don't see near as much snow as pretty much everywhere else up here.


Snowiest places in Canada. Smiley: waycool

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What if we just gave everyone in B.C. a snow-shovel for Christmas? They surely come along willingly then.
It would take more than just fancy snow shovels.

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#105 Dec 04 2012 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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I think annexing Canada would be good for everyone's politics.
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I think annexing Canada would be good for everyone's politics.
We can give Quebec to Russia or something. Anyone who asks, really.

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Israel isn't required to submit to inspections because Israel isn't a signatory to the Nonproliferation Act. Iran is.

Don't let a little thing like "facts" get in the way of rdmcandies' rant.
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Israel isn't required to submit to inspections because Israel isn't a signatory to the Nonproliferation Act. Iran is.


No-one's a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Act, because that's a piece of US legislation directed at Iran.
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My error for getting the name wrong. I was posting from my phone while sitting in a dentist waiting room. Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

And the jump to Iran.

Edited, Dec 4th 2012 7:52pm by Jophiel
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My error for getting the name wrong. I was posting from my phone while sitting in a dentist waiting room. Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

And the jump to Iran.

Edited, Dec 4th 2012 7:52pm by Jophiel


3 (real)Countries think Israel should not be a signatory, when the rest of the world does, and the rest of the world is. We denounce Iran a signatory nation because they won't declare what they are doing with it. They have. Numerous times they stated it is purely for energy purpose and not intended to be militarized. So they just aren't declaring what we want to hear...meanwhile you have a more or less confirmed nuclear power, who has been working on the science since 1958 appealing to the IAEA for increased anti-nuclear pressure. One that we have never sought to inspect, have never been allowed to inspect, and have no confirmed (or denied) reports on their nuclear intentions.

We have Israel a Nuclear capable (widely consider Nuclear Armed) nation, who is a non signatory of the NPT, who has not made a declaration their nuclear intentions (or ******** requesting that the global body initiate activity against a nation who has signed to this treaty and is currently trying to build a nuclear program...not refining a program over 54 years. A nation who has declared intention, allowed inspections, and still...still we scrutinize over them...on request of Israel.

That is not hypocritical?

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I mean sh*t its in the **** Treaty.
"Right to peacefully use Nuclear Energy"

I mean it doesn't get anymore hypocritical than that.

Then again what can I say my country is openly selling Uranium to India another unsigned nation, so I guess Canada is pro-proliferation, go us!

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-and-india-finally-reach-nuclear-deal-1.1026044

Of course it was buried under all that other news going on on Nov. 6th. Election Day USA or something.

Edited, Dec 4th 2012 11:52pm by rdmcandie
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3 (real)Countries think Israel should not be a signatory

As a sovereign nation, the only opinion that really matters is Israel's given that it's up to them whether or not sign. It's a treaty, not a compulsion.

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We denounce Iran a signatory nation because they won't declare what they are doing with it.

No, because they haven't allowed the access required by the treaty they willingly signed.

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That is not hypocritical?

Nope.
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#112 Dec 05 2012 at 12:31 AM Rating: Good
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As a sovereign nation, the only opinion that really matters is Israel's given that it's up to them whether or not sign. It's a treaty, not a compulsion.


Correct its not like it was a resolution or anything. Of course Israel dismissed that, of course they will dismiss this.

Did we do anything about that? Nah...its Israel a rouge nuclear capable nation. Kinda like North Korea...but on our side!

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No, because they haven't allowed the access required by the treaty they willingly signed.


So what are these guys doing then?

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Nope.

If it looks like sh*t and smells like sh*t it probably is sh*t.

Speaking of which, why isn't my country getting in sh*t? We just signed a deal with India (another Rogue Nuclear Power) to send them Uranium...as long as it is for peaceful purpose...a direct violation of the NPT regardless if it is used peacefully or not...and of course simple math can tell you if they buy enough from Canada to cover their domestic needs, their own pile at home can be used to make missiles. After all, it was Canadian Uranium inside India's first test bomb may as well let them buy ours so they can use theirs this time.

Irony, and Hypocrisy.



Edited, Dec 5th 2012 1:35am by rdmcandie
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India hates the same people we do, or that we just dislike but will still buy their crap.
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Correct its not like it was a resolution or anything.
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The non-binding resolution...

Well, ok then. But keep on ******** and whining about how unfair and hypocritical and blah, blah, blah...
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So what are these guys doing then?

Inspecting the limited sites they have access to. I mean... duh?

I couldn't care less about Canada's relation with India. Go write a strongly worded letter to your queen or something.


Edited, Dec 5th 2012 7:48am by Jophiel
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Alright we'll throw in a case of Kokanee and a roll of duct tape, but they have to promise to start playing real football up there in return.
BC brews Kokanee, they don't need you to gift it to them.
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#116 Dec 05 2012 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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So what are these guys doing then?

Inspecting the limited sites they have access to. I mean... duh?

I couldn't care less about Canada's relation with India. Go write a strongly worded letter to your queen or something.


Thats pretty hypocritical of you Joph.

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Iran broke the rules they deserve what they get!, I don't care that Canada broke the rules!


Iran has allowed inspectors, have declared their intent, both requirements that allow them the right to pursue peaceful nuclear development, and you care because they haven't shown what we want them to show.

Canada has decided to sell Uranium to a rouge Nuclear Power, a direct violation of the NPT and you don't care.

Hypocrite.





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#117 Dec 05 2012 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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I don't remember throwing a big fit about Iran either, really. I'm saying why the IAEA would expect full access to their sites.

But, hey, you've convinced yourself that saying "hypocrite" enough times is a silver bullet so rock on Smiley: laugh

Here: "Canada is a bunch of doody-heads and should be invaded and occupied by UN peacekeepers post haste!" Now I'm not a hypocrite. Thank God.
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I don't remember throwing a big fit about Iran either, really. I'm saying why the IAEA would expect full access to their sites.

But, hey, you've convinced yourself that saying "hypocrite" enough times is a silver bullet so rock on Smiley: laugh

Here: "Canada is a bunch of doody-heads and should be invaded and occupied by UN peacekeepers post haste!" Now I'm not a hypocrite. Thank God.


They have given them access to their nuclear sites. The site you are referring to is a Military site, not nuclear, the IAEA has no authority or right to inspect it. It is not mandated by the NPT and is not required to submit to inspection under the NPT, as it has nothing to do with their nuclear program.

Of course we can spin and say it does, but just because we claim it, doesn't mean that the rules change, Iran has no obligation to allow IAEA inspectors into its Military establishments.

Of course thats not to say Iran couldn't be weaponizing nuclear material there, but hey guess what, there isn't anything we as a world body can do legally to find that out, and Iran is not bound to disclose that information either.

Of course rules don't mean anything to folks like us. Living in our hypocritical ivory towers.

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So you're saying both sides have potentially legitimate arguments using the mutually agreed upon rules so that's fine but while Israel has no compunction to abide by a non-binding resolution, their failure to do so is a terrible thing?

OMG HYPOCRITE!!!! YOU THERE IN YOUR HYPOCRITE TOWER EATING HYPOCRITE CHIPS WITH HYPOCRITE SALSA!!!
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Mmm... salsa.
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I know, right? Also HYPOCRITE SPARE RIBS just because then the Israelis can't eat them. Ha ha, Israel! In your FACE!
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#122 Dec 05 2012 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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So you're saying both sides have potentially legitimate arguments using the mutually agreed upon rules so that's fine but while Israel has no compunction to abide by a non-binding resolution, their failure to do so is a terrible thing?

OMG HYPOCRITE!!!! YOU THERE IN YOUR HYPOCRITE TOWER EATING HYPOCRITE CHIPS WITH HYPOCRITE SALSA!!!


I am a hypocrite, at least I can admit it though. We do need to prevent a nuclear Iran, and we do need to protect Israeli interests, but we also need to stop with this double standard. We punish Iran for not following UN resolutions (which are above and beyond the requirements laid out in the NPT, essentially the same meaningless resolutions that Israel disregards.) but not Israel.

We are hypocrites.
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Well, I'll go weep bitter tears now.
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You should marinade your hypocrite spare ribs in them.
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Cajun style beer battered hypocrisy is the best, especially if the catfish is fresh.
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"Canada is a bunch of doody-heads and should be invaded and occupied by UN peacekeepers post haste!" Now I'm not a hypocrite. Thank God.
Agreed. You know who we should send in to occupy them? The Canadians. They already speak the language and know the local customs to keep peace with the civilians.
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"Canada is a bunch of doody-heads and should be invaded and occupied by UN peacekeepers post haste!" Now I'm not a hypocrite. Thank God.
Agreed. You know who we should send in to occupy them? The Canadians. They already speak the language and know the local customs to keep peace with the civilians.


Except for Quebec, where they might take issue with anyone calling themselves "Canadian" occupying their "country".
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I think annexing Canada would be good for everyone's politics.

Hey, get your own Empire.
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I think annexing Canada would be good for everyone's politics.

Hey, get your own Empire.


What do you think we've been doing for the past 50 years or so?
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What if we just gave everyone in B.C. a snow-shovel for Christmas? They surely come along willingly then.
It would take more than just fancy snow shovels.

beer


We don't get snow here but I will take the beer.


Also speaking as someone from northern BC, we really actually don't get much snow in the western part of the province even further north anymore. When I was a kid my hometown had tons of snow every winter but now it mostly rains. Climate change has been really obvious with mountains that previously had snow all year round now going bare in the summer etc.

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What do you think we've been doing for the past 50 years or so?
Flushing ours down the tubes.
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Israel stopped construction of the settlements...[blah blah blah]...


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Hey, get your own Empire.


What do you think we've been doing for the past 50 years or so?

Yeah, well keep your grubby mitts off our stuff. Gawd.
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Yeah, well keep your grubby mitts off our stuff. Gawd.
Do you have stuff anymore?
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Do you have stuff anymore?


They still have the Falkland Islands right? That's something.
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