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#52 Nov 07 2012 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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The Republican party needs to do some soul searching. I find some of the comments this morning very odd indeed. "We lost because we were to moderate", "Romney wasn't conservative enough". Only 1 comment on 3 news sites that Ive read today on the real issue, "the Republican party is out of touch with America."

In all honesty this party is going backwards at a shocking pace. Their policies, their positions, their people. I would not at all be surprised when the house flips in a couple years, and with another Dem President taking the helm in 2016. Until the Republican party gets off the train to crazy town anyway. At this rate Ron Paul looks more and more sane every day.


I'm not sure about out of touch, but there's definitely groups in the party, well any party really, that make it unpalatable to others. Christian right, environmentalists, etc. etc.

I kind of saw this election as the pendulum swinging back to the center a little. 2008 swept the Democrats into power in a big way, but they we're father left than the average person, so 2 years later you get the tea party and a lot of Republican upsets. Now in 2012 we're deciding that's not really the answer either, and moving back closer to the middle. Briefly at least, before someone gives it a push in another direction. Smiley: rolleyes

Romney as a moderate is fine, but goodness yes certainly you have to silence the crazies a bit. It doesn't do either party any good to have their fringe dictating policy to that degree.

The problem is that the fringe has become the core of the party platform. The crazies aren't the fringe, they're the party itself.
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#54 Nov 07 2012 at 11:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have no idea how much truth there is to that (Kids voting party for life) , but it made the other pundits get all flustered and deny it.


Some of them will strike it rich & not want to pay taxes. (1%?)

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#55 Nov 07 2012 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Stocks down over 300


Markets not reacting to well to Obama's reelection.


Oil and Bank stocks down... pick up good deals while you can and make some more money?
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#56 Nov 07 2012 at 11:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Markets not reacting to well to Obama's reelection.

Not surprising. Another big fiscal debate coming right up and we saw how well everyone played that time. I'm sure they would have rather had a Republican president, House and Senate so at least there'd be a quick decision.
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#57 Nov 07 2012 at 12:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:

Or maybe just the overall exposure to the more conservative dialog during the primaries was a put off. We did have to listen to months of it, and a lot of it was stuff a moderate wouldn't care for. I know the collective memory doesn't run very far into the past, but yeah, perhaps a bit too much for a bit too long?


Yes, it was just too much, and focused on the wrong things. Republicans have a lot of great ideas, but some of the remarks made just painted a frightening picture to those of us who would have otherwise voted for the smarter businessman. The price would have been too high this time, and the vote reflected that.

Edited, Nov 7th 2012 1:07pm by Torrence
#58 Nov 07 2012 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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Markets not reacting to well to Obama's reelection.
At least you're reacting predictably by hiding further in your fantasy world. Smiley: smile
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#59 Nov 07 2012 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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So did varus move to Canada yet?
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#60 Nov 07 2012 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
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Listening to Limbaugh. Surprisingly coherent. Mystified that single woman would vote for Obama, and that sort of faux outrage, but mostly soul searching.
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#61 Nov 07 2012 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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Listening to Limbaugh. Surprisingly coherent. Mystified that single woman would vote for Obama, and that sort of faux outrage, but mostly soul searching.


I'll have to wait for the transcript, but his website disgusts me already. His remarks likening Obama to Santa Claus, and the remarks made by Bill O'Reilly along the same lines (Obama supporters "wanting stuff") sicken me. It's just so adolescent. Attack the president's policies if you don't agree and offer alternatives. Don't wage war on half the nation just because you didn't get your way.
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I only heard a little bit of it but, when you're "soul searching" about why minorities aren't flocking under your banner after you put Rice, Rubio and Martinez on a stage and none of your potential answers include things like "that dog-whistle welfare campaign", "self deportation as an immigration platform", "we defended the idea that 47% of America is welfare leeches" and the GOP going apeshit over a black woman yelling "Obamaphone!", I think your soul searching lacks basic cartography.
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#64 Nov 07 2012 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wrong this election proved that there are more welfare leeches blacks and mexicans than working white men.


Or there are more working white women who don't buy into your mysogynistic crap as the way to a better life.
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Wrong this election proved that there are more welfare leeches blacks and mexicans than working white men.

Susanna Martinez, ladies and gentlemen! Let's hear it for her! Go vote Republican...

Edited, Nov 7th 2012 3:19pm by Jophiel
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#67 Nov 07 2012 at 1:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe this is off, but given that polling showed that the overwhelming majority of people in other countries (Canada, France, England, Austrailia, etc) would have thrown their support behind Obama... isn't it possible that his success could be evidence of a recalibration in terms of what "moderate" means in America to something more recognizable to people in pretty much any other democracy on earth?

It just seems weird to me that anyone would campaign on religious fundamentalism/woman hating/*** hating/poor hating etc and then be surprised they didn't win. I mean, really women + gays + poor people = more than 50% of the population of ANY country...

Expecting people to vote against their own interests consistently seems like a bad strategy, even if it has worked in the past.
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#68 Nov 07 2012 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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crazylegz1975 wrote:
Wrong this election proved that there are more welfare leeches blacks and mexicans than working white men.


Thank God the Mormons all have at least 6 kids, or this election wouldn't have even been close?
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#69 Nov 07 2012 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nope what I said.
It's amusing when even you agree you were wrong.
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Smasharoo wrote:
Listening to Limbaugh. Surprisingly coherent. Mystified that single woman would vote for Obama, and that sort of faux outrage, but mostly soul searching.

How is he mystified at that? Has he seen the demographics of his own listeners? It's all old men.
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#71 Nov 07 2012 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Nope what I said. White working women are making much less now than 4 years ago.


We wouldn't have gotten equal pay under Romney. We'd have had our reproductive decisions taken away from us and been relegated to dusty binders, never to be heard from again.
#72 Nov 07 2012 at 1:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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trickybeck wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Listening to Limbaugh. Surprisingly coherent. Mystified that single woman would vote for Obama, and that sort of faux outrage, but mostly soul searching.

How is he mystified at that? Has he seen the demographics of his own listeners? It's all old men.


I'm sure he has. His listeners don't understand why single white women don't like them either. He's just echoing their confusion and profiting from it.

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trickybeck wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Listening to Limbaugh. Surprisingly coherent. Mystified that single woman would vote for Obama, and that sort of faux outrage, but mostly soul searching.
How is he mystified at that? Has he seen the demographics of his own listeners? It's all old men.

****, did he turn on the TV last night and look at the Romney rally? You needed sunglasses to look directly at all that white.
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#74 Nov 07 2012 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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I did for a few minutes, but after trying to fix the color and tint I figured out it was the audience and not my TV.
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#75 Nov 07 2012 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
You needed sunglasses to look directly at all that white.


Smiley: lol

Said that exact same thing to the Mrs. last night.

They were showing the Obama and Romney rallys on a split screen. Everyone, every single person, in the picture on the right at the time was white, with blonde/light brown hair. While the other side was a mix of about everything you could imagine. Picture is worth 1,000 words or something, but that spelled out the demographic problem much better than any pundit ever has, in my mind at least.
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#76 Nov 07 2012 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:

lolMississippi.

They make the rest of the south seem ultra liberal. Idiots.
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