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#52 Nov 01 2012 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Probably would have been 100% for Jilly Bean, but I answered "yes" to the idiotically worded question "Should the US continue to support Israel" Since she's from the 'Chussetts, I've actually had the chance to vote for her a few times. I haven't.

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#54 Nov 01 2012 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
84% Jill Stein Green
on environmental, domestic policy, foreign policy, economic, and social issues

73% Barack Obama Democrat
on environmental, social, and immigration issues

71% Gary Johnson Libertarian
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24% Mitt Romney Republican
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American Voters
on environmental, healthcare, domestic policy, science, economic, social, immigration, and foreign policy issues.
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#55 Nov 01 2012 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?


Our voting system doesnt allow it.


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#56 Nov 01 2012 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Kavekk wrote:
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It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?


Our voting system doesnt allow it.


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I used to vote 'green' but then I took a bullet to the knee.


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#57 Nov 01 2012 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Only just noticed, and don't feel like checking everyone's answers, but did anyone *not* get over 50% match with "American Voters"? Hmmm....
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#58 Nov 01 2012 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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This was a flip from the last one we did here which had me predominantly Republican and supporting Mitt.


Was that the Christian Science Monitor one? Because that one had me as a Republican as well. Come to think of it the one on the Libertarian website claimed I was a Libertarian, and one I found on one of the left-wing blogs my wife frequents had me as a solid Democrat.

I'm sensing a theme...
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Was that the Christian Science Monitor one? Because that one had me as a Republican as well. Come to think of it the one on the Libertarian website claimed I was a Libertarian, and one I found on one of the left-wing blogs my wife frequents had me as a solid Democrat.

Depending on the audience, your answers change wildly? Are you Mitt Romney? Smiley: eek
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#60 Nov 01 2012 at 4:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Was that the Christian Science Monitor one? Because that one had me as a Republican as well. Come to think of it the one on the Libertarian website claimed I was a Libertarian, and one I found on one of the left-wing blogs my wife frequents had me as a solid Democrat.

Depending on the audience, your answers change wildly? Are you Mitt Romney? Smiley: eek


No. Smiley: motz

But apparently I'm extremely eager to see the Republicans take the White House, and to see a second Obama term, and to break the two-party system at it's core.

Yay! Smiley: yippee
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#61 Nov 01 2012 at 4:25 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
did anyone *not* get over 50% match with "American Voters"? Hmmm....

And?
#62 Nov 01 2012 at 5:13 PM Rating: Good
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Only just noticed, and don't feel like checking everyone's answers, but did anyone *not* get over 50% match with "American Voters"? Hmmm....


I got bored and input my best, honest representation of Varus' views and got 23%, which tells me it's accurate enough..
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I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
#63 Nov 01 2012 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
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Was that the Christian Science Monitor one? Because that one had me as a Republican as well. Come to think of it the one on the Libertarian website claimed I was a Libertarian, and one I found on one of the left-wing blogs my wife frequents had me as a solid Democrat.

Depending on the audience, your answers change wildly? Are you Mitt Romney? Smiley: eek


No. Smiley: motz

But apparently I'm extremely eager to see the Republicans take the White House, and to see a second Obama term, and to break the two-party system at it's core.

Yay! Smiley: yippee


This isn't incongruous. It means you want electoral reform.
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#64 Nov 01 2012 at 7:31 PM Rating: Default
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Allegory wrote:
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did anyone *not* get over 50% match with "American Voters"? Hmmm....

And?


Given the wide range of results in terms of percentage agreement with different politicians, it just seemed odd. Given the apparent methodology being used, you'd think that if one guy gets say 90% Obama 10% Romney, and another gets 90% Romney 10% Obama, they could not *both* match "American Voters" by over 50%. Unless both Romney and Obama share more positions in common with American Voters than they disagree on, but then you'd think that you'd always get more than 50% for one no matter how high the other is. But that doesn't appear to be the case.

It's not important enough for me to go digging through all the results to figure out, but I thought it interesting enough to point out.
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#65 Nov 01 2012 at 8:15 PM Rating: Good
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Considering the vast majority of US voters are probably a great deal closer to the center aisle than our political system is, I'd say it's not that surprising at all. Honestly, that statistic isn't that interesting. We have no clue to what extent we are considered "close". I said I was pro-choice, and I said that it was extremely important to me. Someone else might have said they were fine with abortion in cases of rape and incest, but that the issue wasn't important to them. Are we grouped together as similar?

No way of knowing.

Either way, if the pool of voters is going to be a bell curve along the positions, it shouldn't be too surprising if most of us end up with over 50% shared positions.
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#66 Nov 01 2012 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
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Since they're more than two candidates to divide choices among, there were few questions that distinguished Romney and Obama not from themselves but from other candidates. Not every question may have pertained to every candidate either.

And when it comes to Romney, it's really important what day this questionnaire was created.
#67 Nov 01 2012 at 8:42 PM Rating: Default
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/shrug

Like I said. It looks like they use a slightly different methodology when determining how similar someone is to "American Voters" than to any given candidate. I don't feel like looking too deeply into the guts of it though.

Oh. I did notice one interesting (and conspiratorial!) thing when drilling down through the choices to see why a given rate was given. Now, maybe this was my imagination, or an outlier (cause I only checked one set and noticed this in one case), but when Obama and someone else both gave the same answer I gave, it awarded it to Obama. Again, I didn't feel like digging into more cases to see if this happened all the time, but it could explain why people who have high Obama scores have low Romney scores, but those who have high Romney scores have pretty decent Obama scores as well.

Edit: I should say this isn't the case all the time. There are certainly some high Obama scores with decent Romney scores as well. But there are several high Obama scores with very low Romney scores, but I couldn't find a single case of the opposite.

Edited, Nov 1st 2012 7:51pm by gbaji
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#68 Nov 01 2012 at 10:34 PM Rating: Good
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90% Jill Stein
80% Barack Obama
62% Rocky Anderson
61% Gary Johnson
6% Mitt Romney
5% Virgil Goode
54% Florida Voters
56% American Voters


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#69 Nov 02 2012 at 1:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Only just noticed, and don't feel like checking everyone's answers, but did anyone *not* get over 50% match with "American Voters"? Hmmm....


I got bored and input my best, honest representation of Varus' views and got 23%, which tells me it's accurate enough..
I find the thought that 23% of Americans agree on a majority of topics with Varus to be frightening.
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#70 Nov 02 2012 at 1:40 AM Rating: Default
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Monsieur Driftwood wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Only just noticed, and don't feel like checking everyone's answers, but did anyone *not* get over 50% match with "American Voters"? Hmmm....


I got bored and input my best, honest representation of Varus' views and got 23%, which tells me it's accurate enough..
I find the thought that 23% of Americans agree on a majority of topics with Varus to be frightening.


Well, one would assume that its a percentage of likely votes polled, so its commpletely possible that a bunch of them were crazy like that. That, and the optional answers for those questions make it impossible to really capture the sheer extremism and silliness behind the views of varus, crazylegs, etc.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2012 3:45am by Driftwood
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I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
#71 Nov 02 2012 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Timelordwho wrote:
This isn't incongruous. It means you want electoral reform.


It isn't nice to use big words in the morning. Smiley: frown Thank goodness for google...

And here I assumed everyone wanted me to vote for them so they skewed the results... Smiley: rolleyes
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#72 Nov 02 2012 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
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This isn't incongruous. It means you want electoral reform.


It isn't nice to use big words in the morning. Smiley: frown Thank goodness for google...

And here I assumed everyone wanted me to vote for them so they skewed the results... Smiley: rolleyes


Of course, which is why I read what your results meant rather than what they said.
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#73 Nov 02 2012 at 11:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Timelordwho wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
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This isn't incongruous. It means you want electoral reform.


It isn't nice to use big words in the morning. Smiley: frown Thank goodness for google...

And here I assumed everyone wanted me to vote for them so they skewed the results... Smiley: rolleyes


Of course, which is why I read what your results meant rather than what they said.


LIES! Smiley: mad
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