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#1 Oct 31 2012 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, yeah, who needs another political thread already? Ok, but this should appeal to this particular crowd since it is generated by NPR, the Left's favorite radio station!

The site is:
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In it you will asked a number of questions pertaining to your stance on various topics. You may answer a simple yes or no, or you can go into greater detail by looking at other options. You can even use your own words. Then to the left of each question it asks you to rate the importance of each issue. At the end it tallies up your responses and show how close to each of the candidates you are.

My results show that I am:
97% Romney (Republican)
75% Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
70% Virgil Goode (Constitution)
53% Obama (Democrat)
5% Rocky Anderson (Justice)
3% Jill Stein (Green)

I am in agreement with 53% of all American voters on foreign policy, economics, immigration, domestic policy, environmental, and science issues.

No big surprises there, except that my Libertarian leanings aren't as close as I thought they'd be according to NPR.

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#2 Oct 31 2012 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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That site, or one similar to it, was linked either here or on Facebook a while back. Can't remember which. Either way, I only vaguely remember where my results were, but I recall them being fairly strongly Romney as the top one(upper 70s, iirc).
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The best part of these is always people flipping their shit that they couldn't give the perfect answers so this test is sooooo stupid.

Including all the bonus questions, I got...
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92% Barack Obama (Democrat)
82% Jill Stein (Green)
52% Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
46% Rocky Anderson (Justice)
23% Mitt Romney (Republican)
18% Virgil Goode (Constitution)


In your face, Constitution!

Edited, Oct 31st 2012 11:32am by Jophiel
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#4 Oct 31 2012 at 10:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like I am...
Gary Johnson - 95%
Jill Stein - 84%
Barack Obama - 82%
Mitt Romney - 56%

82% Democrat, 81% Green, 81% Libertarian, 25% Republican for party alignment; also 60% with my fellow Oregonians, and 59% with the rest of you American types.

And I voted for Gary Johnson... +1 bonus point to NPR I suppose, well done. Smiley: lol

Edited, Oct 31st 2012 9:47am by someproteinguy
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95% Jill Stein
84% Barack Obama
71% Rocky Anderson
66% Gary Johnson
5% Mitt Romney
2% Virgil Goode

I side with 59% of Illinoisans and 62% of Americans.
I side with 96% Democrat, 90% Green, 28% Libertarian, 1% Republican

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91% Gary Johnson

83% Jill Stein

79% Barack Obama

41% Mitt Romney


Only surprise is that I have no idea who Jill Stein is (well, besides her party) or what she stands for. I'm not at all surprised that I lean more Libertarian than Democratic.
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Me and the 62% of Americans that are communists really want more wind power, apparently.

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Wow, Tricky! You've really got that whole Farmer Brown thing goin' on! And by Farmer Brown, I mean Mother Jones and hydroponics lab equipment. 95%!?! You practically bleed chlorophyll!

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#12 Oct 31 2012 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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Totem, how do you know this is an NPR generated thing?

I thought it funny that in a political survey like this that the question has to be asked - "Do you believe in evolution?". Next reiteration of the survey should ask if you believe in legitimate rape.

Anyways, here's how I scored. I had a hard time with the 'how important is this issue' I wanted to check them all off as most important, but I did attempt to prioritize a bit.

Jill Stein Green on environmental, social, immigration, foreign policy, domestic policy, and healthcare issues - 92%

Gary Johnson Libertarian on social, domestic policy, healthcare, science, and immigration issues - 80%

Barack Obama Democrat on environmental, foreign policy, immigration, and economic issues - 79%

Mitt Romney Republican on science issues - 34%

Maine Voters on environmental, foreign policy, social, domestic policy, healthcare, and economic issues - 59%

American Voters on environmental, foreign policy, healthcare, domestic policy, immigration, economic, and science issues - 60%
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#13 Oct 31 2012 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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I was:
91% Jill Stein
84% Barack Obama
75% Rocky Anderson
57% Gary Johnson
5% Mitt Romney

56% of NJ voters, 58% of American voters.

96% Democrat, 94% Green, 31% Libertarian, 1% Republican (lol)

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Obama was social, economic, science, healthcare, and environmental issues.
Stein was foreign policy, domestic policy, economic, environmental, science, immigration, and social issues.
Anderson was on foreign policy, social, and environmental issues.
Romney is literally nothing.

What's odd is that I don't see any reason it should say I don't side with Obama on domestic, because despite slightly different stances on copyright, we had the same answers.

I don't understand why the "show more answers" thing wasn't standard, tbh.

Edited, Oct 31st 2012 2:08pm by idiggory
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Candidates you side with...
94%
Jill Stein Green
on immigration, science, environmental, foreign policy, domestic policy, and economic issues
90%
Barack Obama Democrat
on social, science, immigration, environmental, foreign policy, and economic issues
78%
Rocky Anderson Justice
on immigration, social, environmental, domestic policy, healthcare, and economic issues
1%
Mitt Romney Republican
no major issues
55%
Texas Voters
on science, social, immigration, and domestic policy issues.
59%
American Voters
on science, social, immigration, domestic policy, and environmental issues.


I have no idea why it's telling me how I measure up to Texas voters. Also, I have never heard of Jill Stein.
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Apparently, Ms. Stein should be running away with this election. I predict landslide!
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It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?
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someproteinguy wrote:
It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?

I've voted 3rd party before, but won't in this instance. I think we need to get some governing done and I think an incumbent president will help with that - or at least hinder it less.

Besides, I've never heard of Ms. Stein either. Smiley: confused
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89% Jill Stein Green
on social, environmental, foreign policy, domestic policy, science, and immigration issues

89%Barack Obama Democrat
on social, environmental, immigration, science, and economic issues

83% Gary Johnson Libertarian
on social, immigration, domestic policy, foreign policy, and economic issues

16% Mitt Romney Republican
on economic issues

58% Georgia Voters
on social, environmental, immigration, science, domestic policy, and foreign policy issues.

61% American Voters
on social, environmental, science, immigration, domestic policy, and foreign policy issues.
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someproteinguy wrote:
It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?

They're basically unknowns in this race and therefor not worth considering. If they'd actually had a strong campaign and gained national recognition it might be a different story, but with how things are now all voting for them does is siphon votes away from the mainstream candidates.

I'd love to see Jill Stein have a shot at the white house and I'd rather have Gary Johnson than Romney, but Obama is the only candidate who will actually have the voter base to keep Romney away from the white house, so he's the only other candidate that matters.
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someproteinguy wrote:
It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?

If I wasn't in a so-called battleground state, sure. For example, if I was still in MA or DE. But in FL? Eh, I'd rather not chance it.

As is, I'd prefer to see some libertarian candidates in local, county, or state races instead. If they could gather up "grassroots" (ie, angry regular people buoyed by huge political talking heads) support like the Tea Party, I'd be happy to vote for them. But going from none to president is kinda like going from flying a kite to launching a rocket to the moon. Might want to take a few steps in between first.
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95% Jill Stein
83% Rocky Anderson
78% Barack Obama
64% Gary Johnson
5% Mitt Romney
57% of American voters

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It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?


Our voting system doesnt allow it.
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94% Barack Obama
91% Jill Stein
69% Rocky Anderson
61% Gary Johnson
19% Mitt Romney
60% Georgian Voters
63% American Voters

Party wise it is
96% Democrat
9% Republican

Whelp, guess I am not a Republican. Smiley: tongue
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Even if the magical election genie came by and waved his "third party" wand, I wouldn't trust a third party president to have the clout or mandate with either party to accomplish anything useful.
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#26 Oct 31 2012 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
I started the quiz and then immediately got bored.

I'm going to go with stupidmonkey on this one.
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It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?


Our voting system doesnt allow it.


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86% Gary Johnson
85% Mitt Romney
76% Virgil Goode
61% Barack Obama
57% Illinois Voters
60% American Voters

73% Republican
66% Libertarian
55% Green
52% Democrat
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Hmmm:

Gary Johnson 84% on healthcare, environmental, economic, and immigration issues
Mitt Romney 78% on domestic policy, economic, foreign policy, science, and immigration issues
Virgile Goode 56% on healthcare, environmental, and immigration issues
Barack Obama 43% on foreign policy issues
California Voters: 52%
American Voters: 56%

83% Republican, 83% Libertarian, 5% Democrat, 2% Green.

In the Senate, I'm 89% Elizabeth Emken, and 37% Dianne Feinstein.


About what I expected. Also, just to make Joph happy, several questions contained answers (even including the expanded options) that didn't come remotely close to my own positions. I actually filled in "stupid question" a couple times because of this (and rated the importance to least).
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Jill Stein : 92% on science, foreign policy, environmental, economic, domestic policy, and social issues
Barack Obama: 79% on science, environmental, social, and immigration issues
Gary Johnson: 74% on domestic policy, foreign policy, social, healthcare, and immigration issues
Rocky Anderson: 53% on foreign policy, economic, and social issues
Mitt Romney: 43% on domestic policy and immigration issues
Virgil Goode: 24% on foreign policy and immigration issues
Pennsylvania Voters: 61% on science, domestic policy, environmental, economic, healthcare, social, and immigration issues.
American Voters: 63% on science, domestic policy, environmental, economic, healthcare, social, and immigration issues.

93% Green
90% Democrat
54% Libertarian
23% Republican


That seems more or less accurate to me. More than one question got a least important rating from me, and a number of them need a more complicated answer than yes/no, but I couldn't be bothered to get more specific.
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someproteinguy wrote:
It'd be interesting to know: of the people who get matched best to a 3rd party candidate how many would actually consider voting for them?

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Candidates you side with...
90% Gary Johnson
86% Jill Stein
73% Barack Obama
33% Mitt Romney

66% Rhode Island Voters
66% American Voters

Parties you side with...
91% Democrat
88% Green
70% Libertarian
17% Republican

I'm not sure whether I'd vote for a third party. Realistically, my vote in RI means nothing, so I might consider voting for whichever third party candidate seems to be gaining the most traction, just to attempt to raise awareness of third party candidates. Realistically, that would be pointless too. I have my doubts about how effective having a close three or more party race would be. Someone winning with 34% of the vote is much less palatable than someone winning with 51%. I'm not sure what I'd like to see as a solution. A series of partiless primaries to determine the two Presidential candidates?
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I have my doubts about how effective having a close three or more party race would be. Someone winning with 34% of the vote is much less palatable than someone winning with 51%. I'm not sure what I'd like to see as a solution. A series of partiless primaries to determine the two Presidential candidates?


Are you talking in terms of winning state electoral votes? Or electoral votes in the election as a whole? For the former, it's up to each state to determine how its electoral votes are awarded. For the latter, you can't win unless you get more than 50% of the electoral votes. That's largely why we have a two party system. We could get away with more parties in congress, but we can only have two major parties competing for the White House.
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You can still win a majority of electoral votes even if you aren't over 50%...

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And, of course, we have systems in place to allow for the election of a president that includes the three leading competitors. So it's not like a third party can't get into the white house. Quite the opposite in fact.

Edited, Oct 31st 2012 8:08pm by idiggory
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Barack Obama 90%
Jill Stein 90%
Gary Johnson 66%
Rocky Anderson 71%
Mitt Romney 12%
Virgil Goode 3%
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And, of course, we have systems in place to allow for the election of a president that includes the three leading competitors. So it's not like a third party can't get into the white house. Quite the opposite in fact.

Edited, Oct 31st 2012 8:08pm by idiggory


Theoretically yes a third party can get into the white house but in reality all they do is help the candidate that is farthest away from their political ideals. Here's a video of a guy that can explain it a lot better than I can.

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You can still win a majority of electoral votes even if you aren't over 50%...

Plurality. It's the winner tales all part of the electoral college that makes third parties effectively useless in the American system. I'm sure that's what is explained by what Joph linked, but I was too lazy to click through.
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It just means it's a long haul sort of fight, no? You need to win a state to get on the map. But winning a state would also do a lot to legitimatize your organization, which should rapidly fuel your spread.

I've honestly never really decided what my take on plurality and the electoral college is, so I don't have any solutions to present. I see the pros and the cons, and I just don't know which is the greater evil.
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Jill Stein Green 76%
Barack Obama 70%
Gary Johnson 17%
Mitt Romney 59%

California Voters 60%
American Voters 60%

93% Democrat
90% Green
52% Libertarian
9% Republican
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9% Republican

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From what I gathered, it links it based on various position statements of the candidates. Romney's had many different positions over the past 4 years.
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Mm, yeah, I may have mispasted that. Whatever. Put me down for not agreeing with Mittens very much.
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Are you talking in terms of winning state electoral votes? Or electoral votes in the election as a whole? For the former, it's up to each state to determine how its electoral votes are awarded. For the latter, you can't win unless you get more than 50% of the electoral votes. That's largely why we have a two party system. We could get away with more parties in congress, but we can only have two major parties competing for the White House.


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You can still win a majority of electoral votes even if you aren't over 50%...


No, you can't. A majority means "more than 50%". A plurality means "he who got the most".

The reason you can really only have two parties compete (yes, that word is important) for the White House is because our system requires that the winner receive a majority (meaning "more than 50%" in case you forgot) of the electoral votes.

All a serious third party candidate does is take votes away from the guy closest to him politically, thus preventing either of them from being competitive in the race.

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And, of course, we have systems in place to allow for the election of a president that includes the three leading competitors. So it's not like a third party can't get into the white house. Quite the opposite in fact.


Except that somewhat by definition, the guy who wins can never be the "third party" candidate. Else he wouldn't be the third party candidate, he'd be the candidate of one of the two major parties least like the third party candidate. The pressure to avoid having congress choose who the president and vice president are ensures that the overwhelming majority of voters will align into a party capable of achieving a majority. This in turn results in two major parties representing those voters and competing to win the election.


In such a system, you are wasting your vote if you vote for a third party candidate for president. You are vastly better off figuring out which party is closest to your beliefs and working within that party to put forth candidates who represent what you want. Having a small influence on a party which could win is better than having a larger influence on a party which can't. Obviously, if we're talking about local and even state elections it's a different ballgame, but the fastest way to ensure that your opinions will *never* influence federal level policy is to vote third party because it's slightly more in line with your own beliefs than one of the major parties. Not only will your guy not win, but if enough people do this, then you ensure that the party that you disagree with *most* will win.
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Granted, this is just anecedotal in terms of who on this board participated and then posted the results, but the domination of Greenies ideologically is quite shocking to me. I would have expected the vast majority of you to be Dems, but no! you guys are all elves!
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96% Jill Stein
85% Rocky Anderson
78% Barack Obama
75% Gary Johnson
28% Virgil Goode
9% Mitt Romney

54% Texas Voters
58% American Voters

96% Green
95% Democrat
64% Libertarian
3% Republican

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Jill Stein(Green) - 83% - Foreign & Domestic Policy, Environment, Immigration, Science, Healthcare
Gary Johnson(Libertarian) - 74% - Foreign & Domestic Policy, Health Care, Social Issues
Rocky Anderson(Justice, whatever that is) - 66% - Foreign Policy, Immigration
Barack Obama(Democrat) - 65% - Environment, Economy, Science, Immigration, Social Issues
Mitt Romney(Republican) - 23% - Health Care
Virgil Goode(Constitution) - 16% - No issues(then how the **** is there 16%?)
American voters - 60% - Everything but the economy

82% Democrat
80% Green
58% Libertarian
3% Republican

Makes sense to me.
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#49 Nov 01 2012 at 6:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Totem wrote:
Granted, this is just anecedotal in terms of who on this board participated and then posted the results, but the domination of Greenies ideologically is quite shocking to me. I would have expected the vast majority of you to be Dems, but no! you guys are all elves!
O.O

See what happens when ill-informed trolls call us all "libs" for years? It totally screws with everybody's perceptions.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#50 Nov 01 2012 at 6:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Candidates you side with...

96% Jill Stein
86% Barack Obama
80% Rocky Anderson
60% Gary Johnson
20% Mitt Romney
9% Virgil Goode

Probably would have been 100% for Jilly Bean, but I answered "yes" to the idiotically worded question "Should the US continue to support Israel" Since she's from the 'Chussetts, I've actually had the chance to vote for her a few times. I haven't.
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#51 Nov 01 2012 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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74% Barack Obama Democrat
on foreign policy, science, environmental, and social issues

74% Jill Stein Green
on domestic policy, environmental, and science issues

64% Gary Johnson Libertarian
on economic, science, and social issues

58%Mitt Romney Republican
on immigration and social issues

58% American Voters
on foreign policy, domestic policy, environmental, science, and social issues.



This was a flip from the last one we did here which had me predominantly Republican and supporting Mitt. I'm not overly surprised though. I'm sure I'd be more right leaning if sh*t like evolution and stem cell research weren't options to choose from. Oh, and abortion and *** rights. Really, if you guys could get your sh*t together and fix a few key items, I'd be Republican all the way.

So, ultimately, if you weren't so wrong, Id be right

Edited, Nov 1st 2012 10:06am by Uglysasquatch
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