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#1 Oct 30 2012 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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...and almost everything they owned. That's Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and all their tech.

New Star Wars movie to come in 2015, first of three announced films, with more to follow afterwards.

Lucas sold it for 4 bil, 50% of which he pockets himself in cash, with another 50% in Disney stock.

Not sure what to make of this. Lucas was doing a pretty good job of **** all over his own creations...can Disney exploiting them really be that much worse?


But damn. Disney owns everything.


EDIT: Additional details from conference call:

Goal is 1-2 Marvel movies a year.

Disney's understanding is that Lucas is retiring.

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Just saw this explode on facebook too.

I don't much care either way, honestly. Never was a huge Star Wars fanatic, and most of those I know who were hated the new episodes.
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. Lucas was doing a pretty good job of **** all over his own creations...can Disney exploiting them really be that much worse?


More or less my sentiment as well. When you run out of steam you might as well sell the franchise and enjoy your twilight years on your own Hawaiian island or something.

I'd have to know more about an Episode 7 before making a judgement call on it. I'm not opposed to it in principle or anything, but I've never saw all of the recent 3 films or either.

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Damn, that's a handy bit of cash.
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. Lucas was doing a pretty good job of **** all over his own creations...can Disney exploiting them really be that much worse?
I've enjoyed pretty much all of the Disney Marvel movies, and I would think that if Star Wars is given the same treatment, I'll be happy.
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I think most people that are upset are old farts like me that were there, standing in line when Ep. 4 was released. Those first three movies were amazing for the time. Then Lucas got all nutty and somehow messed up much of his own creation.

I'll be interested to see what Disney does with it, but I'll still want them to get the **** off my lawn.
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I don't much care either way, honestly. Never was a huge Star Wars fanatic, and most of those I know who were hated the new episodes.

That's my feeling. I liked the original movies well enough and played with the toys. Then I turned ten and it stopped being an important part of my life.

Power to Lucas for making bank though.
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Lucas already blazed the trail of exploiting the Star Wars franchise for all it was worth, both via the three prequels to the Holy Trilogy and through various cartoons, mini-movies, and other media. So long as they don't try to remake the original movies, I'm pretty indifferent.
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Maybe they'll release a remastered Ewok Christmas special from the Disney vault!
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So I see some possible mashup issues. "When You Wish Upon a Star" probably shouldn't play in any scenes where the Deathstar is powering up.

I'm withholding judgement for now. I think with the right talent, they can do a good job. I think that Episode One overstayed its welcome a bit on the Podracing, but I really didn't mind and even liked Episode Two and Three.
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I'm withholding judgement for now. I think with the right talent, they can do a good job. I think that Episode One overstayed its welcome a bit on the Podracing, but I really didn't mind and even liked Episode Two and Three.


Yeah. I'm also in the "thought they were pretty decent" category when it comes to episodes 1-3. Sure, Jar Jar was annoying, but there's a certain symmetry to having him be responsible for the downfall of the Republic, and the Ewoks responsible for the downfall of the Empire. Equally silly IMO, but there you have it. And to be fair, the biggest thing everyone was waiting for (the fight between Obi Wan and Vader) did not disappoint. The trilogy was somewhat predictable, but then we had so much canon that you knew what happened, it was just a matter of showing it and filling in the details. I personally had no problem with that.

There are a ton of post Empire stories that could be done, and if Disney is interested in doing them, that's great.
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Maybe they'll release a remastered Ewok Christmas special from the Disney vault!



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They can always use Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy for these movies; that's the popular sentiment.
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The best thing about those Ewoks is the knowledge that all that exploded Death Star debris had to eventually fall somewhere.

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If they did the first three Timothy Zahn books as episode 7 8 and 9, I'd watch them. i can see the scripts going horribly wrong though, and they are going to have to bring in new actors at this point.
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If they did the first three Timothy Zahn books as episode 7 8 and 9, I'd watch them. i can see the scripts going horribly wrong though, and they are going to have to bring in new actors at this point.


They'll most likely do the next three as animated films like the Clone Wars series. Hopefully Pixar would be doing it, and not whoever decided on the Thunderbirds look.
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Yeah if it's the Zahn trilogy, I'm actually kind of excited.

That's what we hoped for for the "three new movies" back in the 90s. Then it turned out to be the prequils and I had a sad.

For those who are confused about the "Zahn Trilogy" - Timothy Zahn was one of the pioneering authors of the Star Wars extended universe, and his first three books, about the tattered remnants of the Empire and the fledgling emergence of the New Republic, set the gold standard for the rest of the written universe. Sadly, every other book in the extended universe (with the exception of some of the X-Wing books, perhaps) is vastly inferior. Frankly, some of them completely suck.

About the only other ones that might be cool are the young Han Solo books (the second trilogy for him, not the first one from the 80s.)

If it's any of the books from Kevin J Anderson, I quit.

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Does this mean they can include Star Wars characters in the next Kingdom Heart's title? Smiley: eek
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Yeah if it's the Zahn trilogy, I'm actually kind of excited.

That's what we hoped for for the "three new movies" back in the 90s. Then it turned out to be the prequils and I had a sad.

For those who are confused about the "Zahn Trilogy" - Timothy Zahn was one of the pioneering authors of the Star Wars extended universe, and his first three books, about the tattered remnants of the Empire and the fledgling emergence of the New Republic, set the gold standard for the rest of the written universe. Sadly, every other book in the extended universe (with the exception of some of the X-Wing books, perhaps) is vastly inferior. Frankly, some of them completely suck.

About the only other ones that might be cool are the young Han Solo books (the second trilogy for him, not the first one from the 80s.)

If it's any of the books from Kevin J Anderson, I quit.
I thought Lucas said a while back that he'd already had all nine planned out. Wouldn't that mean we're likely not looking at works from another author?
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Maybe with Lucas out of the way, we'll finally get a remastered version of the original movies before he started **** them up.
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Maybe with Lucas out of the way, we'll finally get a remastered version of the original movies before he started **** them up.

This would be the best thing ever. BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL MUSIC!
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Maybe with Lucas out of the way, we'll finally get a remastered version of the original movies before he started **** them up.
This would be the best thing ever. BRING BACK HAN SHOT FIRST!
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You're all thinking in the wrong direction with Star Wars characters in Disney/Marvel games.

The next Star Wars movie will be cast entirely with Disney Channel stars. Selena Gomez as Leia, the kids from Suite Life as Luke & Han, some token black kid as token Lando, maybe they'll bring in a washed-up post-expiration date star like Hilary Duff back to act as the wizened battle commander.
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You're all thinking in the wrong direction with Star Wars characters in Disney/Marvel games.

The next Star Wars movie will be cast entirely with Disney Channel stars. Selena Gomez as Leia, the kids from Suite Life as Luke & Han, some token black kid as token Lando, maybe they'll bring in a washed-up post-expiration date star like Hilary Duff back to act as the wizened battle commander.

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Yeah if it's the Zahn trilogy, I'm actually kind of excited.


I'd be happy to go and see a movie made from those books as well. They were a high point in the sea of all stuff Star Wars, and the only ones I've finished. Happy times from my youth with those and the X-wing PC games. Smiley: grin
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I'm withholding judgement for now. I think with the right talent, they can do a good job. I think that Episode One overstayed its welcome a bit on the Podracing, but I really didn't mind and even liked Episode Two and Three.

Podracing was a great game. The movie sucked terribly. I can't begin to imagine how Liam Neeson could speak that cheesy dialog, and I've never been fond of Ewan Mcgregor. Natalie Portman was ok.

High Science Fiction aside the characters stories were totally unbelievable - the main blot boring.

The graphics were ok, but not anywhere near appealing enough to do anything to save the movie.

I was so tainted by Episode 1, i couldn't watch 2 or 3 with an open mind. But I might have to do that again.

I really loved the first three movies. I remember going to the first movie. It wasn't my pick, but I didn't yet drive so was at the mercy of my older sister who did drive. She wanted to see it badly. I got hooked.

I doubt if Disney will do any worse than Lucas.
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I can't begin to imagine how Liam Neeson could speak that cheesy dialog,
Couple million bucks, residuals (and possibly reprising the role in the future), and being associated with a Star Wars flick probably helped ease the pain.
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I can't begin to imagine how Liam Neeson could speak that cheesy dialog,

Have you seen his recent film career?
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I can't begin to imagine how Liam Neeson could speak that cheesy dialog,
Couple million bucks, residuals (and possibly reprising the role in the future), and being associated with a Star Wars flick probably helped ease the pain.

Michael Caine, on his role in the dreadful "Jaws: the Revenge", famously wrote:
I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific.

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I can't begin to imagine how Liam Neeson could speak that cheesy dialog,

Have you seen his recent film career?


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Elinda wrote:
I can't begin to imagine how Liam Neeson could speak that cheesy dialog,

Have you seen his recent film career?

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Given how crappy his movies have been over the last dozen years or so, they can't do too much worse. When I first heard about this going down, I was pretty shocked. That quickly wore off, and now I'm just thinking of how great it would be to sell your life's work and go into retirement with that much scratch to play with.

He can build his own Endor... populated by per-pubesent children in little furry costumes. I'm guessing that's what he was going for all along.
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I can't begin to imagine how Liam Neeson could speak that cheesy dialog,

Have you seen his recent film career?

"I trained Batman. I trained Jedi. I was Zeus. And you *still* think it's a good idea to kidnap my family?"




In two separate movies even.



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I got Zahn series for a gift when I was 13, so 1994ish, awesome books. Mental note, I need to dust them off and see if they hold up almost 2 decades later.
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I got Zahn series for a gift when I was 13, so 1994ish, awesome books. Mental note, I need to dust them off and see if they hold up almost 2 decades later.


They do, and the audiobooks are still magical. Smiley: inlove
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I miss X-wing. though X-wing vs. tie fighter was also a great game (and tie fighter too for that matter) Any game where you get to attack and kill an executor class super star destroyer has to be good. And the medical frigate redemption mission remains to this day one of the most challenging space simulator engagements I've ever come across. then the fact that you get to play it from the other side in tie fighter was awsome!

If any game needs a graphics update and direct port to windows 7 as is, its them.
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I miss X-wing. though X-wing vs. tie fighter was also a great game (and tie fighter too for that matter) Any game where you get to attack and kill an executor class super star destroyer has to be good. And the medical frigate redemption mission remains to this day one of the most challenging space simulator engagements I've ever come across. then the fact that you get to play it from the other side in tie fighter was awsome!

If any game needs a graphics update and direct port to windows 7 as is, its them.

Sounds boss, but you know they'll just throw in some totally inappropriate music and make Jar-Jar your copilot.
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I miss X-wing. though X-wing vs. tie fighter was also a great game (and tie fighter too for that matter) Any game where you get to attack and kill an executor class super star destroyer has to be good. And the medical frigate redemption mission remains to this day one of the most challenging space simulator engagements I've ever come across. then the fact that you get to play it from the other side in tie fighter was awsome!

If any game needs a graphics update and direct port to windows 7 as is, its them.


Wouldn't it be great if they still made games like that? (As opposed to 3rd person railway Star Wars themed Gummi Ship/Star Fox clones...)

I've been trying to find an old copy or remake of the X-wing/Tie Fighter series and have had no luck anywhere. You'd think with all the wonderful technology we possess today there'd be some way to either play the classic games, or make new ones using the same formula and modern graphics.
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I miss X-wing. though X-wing vs. tie fighter was also a great game (and tie fighter too for that matter) Any game where you get to attack and kill an executor class super star destroyer has to be good. And the medical frigate redemption mission remains to this day one of the most challenging space simulator engagements I've ever come across. then the fact that you get to play it from the other side in tie fighter was awsome!

If any game needs a graphics update and direct port to windows 7 as is, its them.


Wouldn't it be great if they still made games like that? (As opposed to 3rd person railway Star Wars themed Gummi Ship/Star Fox clones...)

I've been trying to find an old copy or remake of the X-wing/Tie Fighter series and have had no luck anywhere. You'd think with all the wonderful technology we possess today there'd be some way to either play the classic games, or make new ones using the same formula and modern graphics.

Bittorrent? Abandonware?
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X-wing vs. Tie Fighter made the darn turbolasers harder to see. No longer could your 1 measly little Y-wing effortlessly take down a Star Destroyer on its own. Smiley: frown

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Given how crappy his movies have been over the last dozen years or so, they can't do too much worse.


I avoided the whole "clash/wrath of the Titans" films, so I think I was spared the worst. Taken was "meh" IMO. Stock action flick I suppose. I did actually find Unknown to be pretty good though. Neat plot twist if nothing else.
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I'll tell you why now....it's because every business big and small are terrified of the obama tax increases set to go into effect next year.

At least you've come to terms with the fact that Obama is going to win. Otherwise, there'd be no reason to rush things since Romney would no doubt be throwing handfuls of cash at the corporations and hosting a pizza party for their deal.
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I'll tell you why now....it's because every business big and small are terrified of the obama tax increases set to go into effect next year.

At least you've come to terms with the fact that Obama is going to win. Otherwise, there'd be no reason to rush things since Romney would no doubt be throwing handfuls of cash at the corporations and hosting a pizza party for their deal.


Except that whoever wins next week doesn't start their term until Jan of next year *after* the tax changes go through. A Romney win dramatically increases the odds that our government will retroactively extend the Bush tax rates and undo the damage somewhat, but the odds of anyone passing legislation to change things prior to next year are the same regardless of the outcome of the election (looking quite low atm).
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Except that whoever wins next week doesn't start their term until Jan of next year *after* the tax changes go through.

In which case there's still no reason to rush a sale before Nov 6th. Look, Crazy-whoever just made a stupid post. You don't need to try and defend it just because you're hurting for conservative allies Smiley: grin
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I'll tell you why now....it's because every business big and small are terrified of the obama tax increases set to go into effect next year.

Based on the fact that a super-super-super-super big business bought another super big business? Or are you saying that the only way to weather the tax increases is to become the biggest possible business you can, in which case your argument contradicts itself.

I just looked it up - Disney's 2011 revenue was 1.7% of what the federal government's revenue was. That's kinda crazy.


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I'm going to go out on a limb and say Disney announced the deal exactly when their lawyers said it was okay to announce it. No sooner, no later.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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