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I want next election's debates to end with a fact check session, because this ****'s hilarious.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Romney for the night can be summed up as rambling and insecure.
Jophiel wrote:
Things Romney loves: Teachers, Big Bird, automobiles, trees.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I want next election's debates to end with a fact check session, because this sh*t's hilarious.
That would be awesome... end it like a game show...
"You said that you wouldn't support Israel during war"..... Survey says"..........BS". lol
CBS Instant poll looks like a flip from Debate #1...
@CBSNews wrote:
BREAKING: CBS NEWS INSTANT POLL Who won the #Debate? OBAMA: 53%; ROMNEY: 23%, TIE: 24% (Margin of Error: 4%; Sample Size: 521)
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Liberal media bias, partial moderator, unfair time allotment, oversampling, etc etc.
Edited, Oct 22nd 2012 11:12pm by lolgaxe
Edited, Oct 22nd 2012 11:12pm by lolgaxe
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Overall it felt like a tie... MAYBE Obama came slightly ahead, as almost all of Romney's foreign policy answers tended to be "I agree with Obama, but I'd do EVEN MORE!" No real zingers, but I did like Obama's punches on the size versus effectiveness of Navy ships. I was mentally thinking along the same lines ( more =/= better); he just went for the mocking on that. Good times.
Facepalmed myself on Bob's "Obama Bin Laden," although it's being reported now as "Obama's Bin Laden"... not much better.
Facepalmed myself on Bob's "Obama Bin Laden," although it's being reported now as "Obama's Bin Laden"... not much better.
I thought Obama came out quite a bit ahead in ways he didn't before, particularly with the first debate. His answers were far more clear on most issues (and Romney really left himself open, since Obama is being found correct on quite a few of his fact check responses).
Plus, what the hell is Romney's foreign policy? I still have no clue. He's against defense spending, because he thinks it'll weaken our effective strength (false assumption), but he wants to pull out of the Middle East? And he doesn't want to increase spending, but he wants to bulk up our navy? How do you do that without spending?
My favorite is his claim that Syria was Iran's path to the sea though. XD
What easily bothered me the most, however, was the way he was referring to middle eastern countries. I know he was pandering to a racist bloc, but it killed me. You're going to lump Turkey in with Pakistan when you criticize Obama's "apology tour"? You're going to act like the Muslim Brotherhood is the same thing within Egypt as outside it? You're going to completely dismiss all Pakistanis that are not terrorists (though both did this, Romney was just WAY worse about it)?
And Romney definitely left himself open to a lot more fact-checking blunders than Obama did. Both sides always lie, but most of Obama's fibs in this debate were more stretching the truth and outright lies.
Worst of all, the closest thing I can figure his F.P. boils down to "let's strong-arm everyone." And that's just not going to work, and we need a president who is willing to work with that.
Plus, what the hell is Romney's foreign policy? I still have no clue. He's against defense spending, because he thinks it'll weaken our effective strength (false assumption), but he wants to pull out of the Middle East? And he doesn't want to increase spending, but he wants to bulk up our navy? How do you do that without spending?
My favorite is his claim that Syria was Iran's path to the sea though. XD
What easily bothered me the most, however, was the way he was referring to middle eastern countries. I know he was pandering to a racist bloc, but it killed me. You're going to lump Turkey in with Pakistan when you criticize Obama's "apology tour"? You're going to act like the Muslim Brotherhood is the same thing within Egypt as outside it? You're going to completely dismiss all Pakistanis that are not terrorists (though both did this, Romney was just WAY worse about it)?
And Romney definitely left himself open to a lot more fact-checking blunders than Obama did. Both sides always lie, but most of Obama's fibs in this debate were more stretching the truth and outright lies.
Worst of all, the closest thing I can figure his F.P. boils down to "let's strong-arm everyone." And that's just not going to work, and we need a president who is willing to work with that.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Ok I am a bit late I had to watch it after work.
1. Romney seems to have lost the teachers vote...calling out the teachers union, but its ok he really loves teachers.
2. I do agree that troops should remain in Iraq and afghanistan, however, the US should be shutting down its unneeded bases in Europe to off set costs of keeping active bases in Iraq and Afghanistan.
3. Why does Romney's reply sound just like Obama's, except louder and more stutter filled.
4. Obama scorch pow on the navy remarks.
5. Why does Romney's reply sound just like Obama's, except louder and more stutter filled.
6. FACT CHECK TIME!!!
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Like the technology being researched in the construction of the Tesla Roadster?
7. T-t-t-t-t-t-t-today Romney.
8. Isn't this Obama again? Why didn't I just download his soundbyte?
9. Iran is the new Russia.
10. Obama Victor.
1. Romney seems to have lost the teachers vote...calling out the teachers union, but its ok he really loves teachers.
2. I do agree that troops should remain in Iraq and afghanistan, however, the US should be shutting down its unneeded bases in Europe to off set costs of keeping active bases in Iraq and Afghanistan.
3. Why does Romney's reply sound just like Obama's, except louder and more stutter filled.
4. Obama scorch pow on the navy remarks.
5. Why does Romney's reply sound just like Obama's, except louder and more stutter filled.
6. FACT CHECK TIME!!!
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F General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed.
Without that bailout, Detroit will need to drastically restructure itself. With it, the automakers will stay the course — the suicidal course of declining market shares, insurmountable labor and retiree burdens, technology atrophy, product inferiority and never-ending job losses. Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check.
Without that bailout, Detroit will need to drastically restructure itself. With it, the automakers will stay the course — the suicidal course of declining market shares, insurmountable labor and retiree burdens, technology atrophy, product inferiority and never-ending job losses. Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check.
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I believe the federal government should invest substantially more in basic research — on new energy sources, fuel-economy technology, materials science and the like — that will ultimately benefit the automotive industry, along with many others.
Like the technology being researched in the construction of the Tesla Roadster?
7. T-t-t-t-t-t-t-today Romney.
8. Isn't this Obama again? Why didn't I just download his soundbyte?
9. Iran is the new Russia.
10. Obama Victor.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Given up any pretense of a foreign policy debate.
Boring civilian anecdotes.
Boring civilian anecdotes.
Edited, Oct 23rd 2012 4:30am by Aethien
Yeah, I'm really sick of the "Why, just last week, I was talking to a woman with no arms who also had MS, who was working 3 jobs..." blah blah blah...
Nadenu wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Given up any pretense of a foreign policy debate.
Boring civilian anecdotes.
Boring civilian anecdotes.
Edited, Oct 23rd 2012 4:30am by Aethien
Yeah, I'm really sick of the "Why, just last week, I was talking to a woman with no arms who also had MS, who was working 3 jobs..." blah blah blah...
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
And he doesn't want to increase spending, but he wants to bulk up our navy? How do you do that without spending?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Thinking today about the craziness of Romney wanting energy independence in 8 years, yet attacking government investment in Solyndra. If you want to achieve that goal that fast, you're going to have to invest or subsidize tons of companies and industries; some won't pay off.
And he wants to place sanctions on Iran now, simultaneously bringing down gas prices.
Wait
Wait
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
A bit of ignorance here, but what more can we actually do to Iran sanction-wise? I'm assuming they're still trading some oil or something?
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
Not much. Russia and China have their own trade relations with Iran and also block the UN from taking action with their veto power. They're somewhat sorta on board (as Obama mentioned last night) but if we tried to go all-out, they'd balk and no doubt back off on even the sanctions they're also enforcing.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
What Iran is SAYING is that any attempt to increase sanctions means they'd cease exports to the US and EU completely, and allegedly have an economic plan ready in case that happens.
Whether or not that's just talk is anyone's guess though.
But either way, I'm doubting sanctions would do anything.
Whether or not that's just talk is anyone's guess though.
But either way, I'm doubting sanctions would do anything.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Sanctions are already doing something. The Iranian rial is in free fall. Whether MORE sanctions would do any good is questionable and could invite backlash.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I guess I just don't really understand how sanctions are supposed to work against a regime that doesn't care if the people suffer for it.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
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What Iran is SAYING is that any attempt to increase sanctions means they'd cease exports to the US and EU completely
No, they're threatening to stop oil exports to everyone, full stop. The US and EU have already made it illegal to import Iranian crude.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Romney for the night can be summed up as rambling and insecure.
He's intimidated by the Kenyan blacksnake.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Must have stood too close in the urinal.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Kavekk wrote:
Quote:
What Iran is SAYING is that any attempt to increase sanctions means they'd cease exports to the US and EU completely
No, they're threatening to stop oil exports to everyone, full stop. The US and EU have already made it illegal to import Iranian crude.
Ah, so in effect it forces China and Russia to put pressure on the US to back down. I see.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
I was interested in statistics re: the value of the rial, so I went googling. I was quickly distracted by the first article I came to when I found this little gem.
/gradeschoolhumor
/snicker
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Unfortunately, according to Hanke, the rial is now the least sought-after currency in the world, falling below the Vietnamese dong in late September.
/gradeschoolhumor
/snicker
So how is it that President Obama "lost" the first debate for being "too over confident" and not participating or calling Governor Romney out as a liar. But, now, Governor Romney is seen as "presidential" for behaving the same way? I swear these people are so hypocritical. I might have to add politicians to my hypocrisy list.
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