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#202 Oct 11 2012 at 9:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, he could have answered that better. Again, I don't know if there's things there he's not at liberty to discuss but, either way, he could have answered it better.

Also, that was a bad time to be smiling during Ryan's speech.
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#203 Oct 11 2012 at 9:35 PM Rating: Good
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I wonder how many people are going to remember that tomorrow though.
#204 Oct 11 2012 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm only half-way through reading the thread, but this is now my desktop background. I wonder if it'll work on my phone...
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#205 Oct 11 2012 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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#206 Oct 11 2012 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
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oh come on guys use spoiler tags I just got home!.
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#207 Oct 11 2012 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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oh come on guys use spoiler tags I just got home!.
Should've listened to the radio or go home early.

Edited, Oct 12th 2012 6:06am by Aethien
#208 Oct 11 2012 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I wonder how many people are going to remember that tomorrow though.

Doesn't matter. Nobody votes for VP. Biden energized the base, and in turnout elections, that matters a lot. The ground game is where Democrats win, and 1000 staffers in Ohio just decided they were going to work harder.
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#209 Oct 11 2012 at 10:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Man Biden is just taking it to this kid.

Favorite Line.

"this is what politicians do who don't have a record to run on..." I hope that wasn't directed at Biden. Actually the only guy in the race who has no federal political record is Romney. So was it directed at him?
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#210 Oct 12 2012 at 5:40 AM Rating: Good
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Where did they store this Biden and why don't they use him more often?
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I'm surprised neither of them brought up North Korea as an analog. They have a nuclear bomb but it kinda sucks, and like Iran they have no missile capable of delivering it internationally. And they developed it even with trade sanctions in place, which is a point Ryan could have made. But the country is also impoverished and malnourished, which is bad from a humanist standpoint, but which also can't go on forever and they'll have to relent eventually.


NK actually has a decent long(er) term outlook, pending the execution of some of the old guard leadership. Jang Sung-taek likes 'modernization' over military spending. Nothing set in stone, nor soon, but it's looking better.
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Pretty soon when we have footage of mile long gas lines in CA and make sure every swing state voter takes a good look.

Why gas lines?
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#213 Oct 12 2012 at 7:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gas is going to be $5 or $6 a gallon! Just like it was going to be last month... and this past summer... and last winter... and in 2010...
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#214 Oct 12 2012 at 7:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Where did they store this Biden and why don't they use him more often?
He's always sleeping, storing his energy for times like this I guess.
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Biden cackling like a crazed old man sure was a uh step uh up uh from uh obama.
Guffawing or snorting or possibly even howling, but there was no cackling.

You're not doing so well expressing yourself today.
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#217 Oct 12 2012 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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I like how all the "old man" insults come out now. McCain was 2 years older in 2008, and actually came off as an old man at times. Biden was lively, but I guess lively + white hair = angry old man.
#218 Oct 12 2012 at 9:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Timelordwho wrote:
Where did they store this Biden and why don't they use him more often?
He's always sleeping, storing his energy for times like this I guess.

Biden, like most Polibears, sleeps for 3 years then goes on a rampage for the remainder of the quadrennium.
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#219 Oct 12 2012 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
California's gas prices were caused by a refinery fire taking out a third of the production capability for the state. The refinery, once the largest in the entire country, is a total loss and now CA is having to import gas from other states to meet demand. Prices would be rising no matter who is president.

It'll probably be a year before equilibrium with the rest of the country is restored.

Stop driving so much in the meantime or go buy a hybrid.

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#220 Oct 12 2012 at 9:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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The only logical explanation is that Obama suicide bombed that refinery. Because he's a Muslim. And hates America.
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#221 Oct 12 2012 at 10:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Biden was lively, but I guess lively + white hair = angry old man.

Someone at the old folks home probably mixed up his meds again.
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#222 Oct 12 2012 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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Being the angry old guy was what I liked about McCain.
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#223 Oct 12 2012 at 1:51 PM Rating: Default
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Well, I guess my prediction on that debate was totally off...

What's ironic is that Biden did everything people said they wish President Obama did in the last debate (pulling out the BS flag), but somehow that makes "Biden" mean.
#224 Oct 12 2012 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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Didn't watch the VP debate. Based just on the way that I've heard commentators couch their descriptions of it, I'm inclined to think that people are giving Ryan credit just for showing up and being marginally coherent.

How high can the standards for these guys be when commentators are saying things like "Well, I was pleasantly surprised to see that Ryan talked about things, and he looked like a person out there. You've got to be impressed with that."...?
#225 Oct 12 2012 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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Well, I guess my prediction on that debate was totally off...

What's ironic is that Biden did everything people said they wish President Obama did in the last debate (pulling out the BS flag), but somehow that makes "Biden" mean.


It's all the media's spin. They want the race to seem as close as possible. While the 1st presidential debate was a snoozefest, they were pretty quick afterwards to say "Well... yeah, I think we can give this one to Romney." It was obvious early in that Joe had Ryan's nuts in a vice grip, yet afterwards they're all "Well, Biden was on the offense the whole time... we're gonna have to see how people react to this." They're just trying to ride the wave for as long as possible.

I mean, it is hard to not give Ryan credit for just showing up, because this was just a venue that Biden was obviously much much more experienced with. Ryan knows how to recite speeches with his puppy dog eyes wide and a bit of effeminate affect, but that's about it. He was very well practiced and remained significantly calmer than he would have without days of repetition, but it was still an event he had never participated in, so he lost just out of inexperience.

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#226 Oct 12 2012 at 2:15 PM Rating: Default
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Well, I don't think a single person who saw both debates doesn't think that the last debate was more entertaining. I'm sure Ryan thought that he was going to be able to pull off a Mitt and just make stuff up... I'm sure he didn't think he was going to hear malarkey!
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