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I was trying to avoid wading into this.
I'm trying to figure out if I was too.. I think I actually was because I've already made my views known.. although most arguments of this caliber can't last long because they inevitably begin to involve faith in one way or another.. Either way; I certainly can't shut up.. even when being provoked by such a blatant troll. Hornet's nests love a chance to buzz do they not?
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Just because something is subjective doesn't mean that it's invalid.
Just because you have to concentrate to look at something objectively doesn't mean that there isn't any true objective viewpoint about something. Are actual things capable of being objective or subjective anyway? No, of course not.. it is entirely based on 2 things: 1) How we look at them and 2) How they actually are.
You would say that there is no difference in these things; No? Of course that is the viewpoint that has no basis in reality. There is a clear distinction.. otherwise babies would be gods wouldn't they and people on acid would certainly be able to fly.. There is clearly a difference between our perception and the reality. In talking about something that you choose to label as purely abstract (subjective) such as the concept of "Evil", naturally there are so many views and commentaries and philosophies on it that indeed it is hard to find any true objectivity.. in fact maybe it doesn't exist from any human standpoint... I don't want to start preaching about what I think that you should think that Evil is.. I do not think that it is an "Action" per se.
Plato recognized that everything that we are experiencing is a shoddy third-rate version of True reality. True reality as relative to what? Relative to Perfection.
Ergo in our existence we are in a state of imperfection.. So imperfect that we can barely see or deal with the imperfection.
We always strive for it.. we always try to leap over the horizon..only ever to fall or stall.. this is simply the human condition.
What I am saying is that this Lack of Perfection is the actual Evil and it is only Relative to Perfection.. Perfection, as was said, being Perfect Truth... the perfect truth that we are unable to process..
To go any further would involve a Sentient Creator Force... because we didn't create ourselves and we are sentient.. but I'll leave it at that.
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Our agreed-upon social construct of right and wrong helps society run, even though it's largely subjective.
Indeed and agreed upon based on what we know deep down is that universal idea of Good and Evil. It sounds crazy until you actually consider it. I know what you are saying and obviously different cultures have different ideas... this is usually sites as proof of a "relative good and evil" but it is actually proof of nothing more of the survival of the fittest.. otherwise you would have to claim that it is the norm for the "Correct and Just" to be the ones to decide on the laws and rules of a society. That never really happens.. maybe to a lesser degree with very small communities.. but that never lasts either. It seems safe to say: No, people still haven't figured it out.. even by now.. and we probably never will.
You would then say "well then there is nothing to figure our because it subjective"... but if that were true.. at some point people would have had to agree on it.. If there is a universal concept that all humans are going through.. such as trying to live together in peace.. and everyone thought that they had their idea of it and shared it and people still have never agreed on it.. Then maybe the reason is that it's not simply subjective.. That there is a clear thing that we LACK as a people.. and it is that thing that we LACK is what cannot be agreed upon.. That THING being Perfection.
I am not really talking about helping society run... society runs like we make it run.. It is not a machine that can be programmed to go in a certain way and then it does its thing.. Society shadows what it's people are actively doing.. including collectively deciding what is Right and what is Wrong... This may work for individual families and communities.. but it can never work for Humanity... not without a Miracle.
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Surely you can see that.
Surely you can see that the ONLY logical direction for Humanity is total enslavement, slaughter, suffering, and destruction, right?
Am I sounding all doomy and gloomy? Answer these questions: Is history full of people caring and sharing with one another? Does the state of The Earth today consist of Nations that have learned from their past mistakes and have overcome adversity?
Your mistake is that you are awaiting this Utopian Global Village to happen some day... Am I right or wrong? Am being judgmental in assuming that you think that one day that people will learn to get along and we'll have global peace like in Star Trek or something?