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yeah, I'm struggling to figure out how killing more people more aggressively is seen as passive foreign policy. I guess he didn't actually start any new wars.

Yup. So apply that to Obama's foreign policy. He's cheered (from the sidelines) movements which caused governmental collapse in several nations, taken no part in rebuilding them or strengthening them against those stronger governments, and then steadfastly refused to take any action, even verbal against those stronger governments when they merrily send their agents in to manipulate the new and weaker governments.


There is no action to take, that's the point. Doing nothing (publicly, the naive idea that the US wasn't and isn't presently deeply involved in shaping these new governments as best it can along with Iran, Syria, Russia et all is infantile) is, quite frequently, the best course of action. What exactly was the course of action to take that yields better results?

I mean I understand, the guy you've championed for the election for years now is a stiff, clumsy nightmare of loser who people mostly distrust and you're dying for any fingernail hold of *something* to hang on to. Here's a tip: This isn't it. Really. Step outside the echo chamber for a moment. It's not 1949. The US can't act unilaterally against another nation state with literally no provocation. Even verbally. You don't condemn Syria or Iran for this, if you do, they laugh and gain support.

I've said this previously, but I'll repeat it now, both of these guys, al-Assad and Khamenei are not tin pot dictators, comically flawed and easily undermined. They, especially Khamenei, aren't acting. They're the real thing. Khamenei is a political genius. al-Assad is lesser talent, but so is pretty much everyone else on the planet. It's very, very, very unlikely that any even vaguely democratic state is going to outmaneuver them in their backyard. Us, Israel, and he newly formed governments in question included. al-Assad will kill every man woman and child in Syria to maintain power, personally if it came to it. Khamenei won a fucking war with Iraq, with Iraq supported by the USSR, US, and the Saudis. At the cost of 1,000,000 casualties. 1,000,000 of his own dead, chemical weapons used against some of them, largely because the US was embarrassed by the revolution. This is the guy you're going to handle with harsh language? Really?

Good luck with that.

Edited, Sep 26th 2012 11:01pm by Smasharoo

What, you don't think it's funny watching Romney's foot-in-mouth like a snake eating its own tail?

You know you're in for a treat when he says "I'm not sure what your point was," because it's certain he's going to proudly go off in some random direction that can only vaguely be related to the actual point being made.

That's ok Bush the younger still costs the US tax payers about 1 Billion a year (1.3 in 2013!), which means that he has spent a total of of about 4 billion of US tax payer money since Obama took office....and he isn't even working anymore.

4-1.3 = 2.7 Billion more US tax dollars, kind of reminds me of his presidency.




Edited, Sep 27th 2012 1:20pm by rdmcandie

Edited, Sep 27th 2012 1:21pm by rdmcandie

Hasn't yet but keep trying!

I'm sorry, couldn't get past the first sentence of that article.



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He can't do this of course because

A) He's scurred of them.
B) It's not his job to worry about them folk.

Edited, Sep 27th 2012 1:17pm by BrownDuck

Rush has more fans than Romney. True story.

Different standards.

Fixed that for you.

I think it's funny that Rasmussen has such notoriously inaccurate polls that electoral-vote.com offers a "Rasmussen-free maps" version prominently on its home page.