Pre-Debate Election RoundupFollow

Romney is kind enough to admit that Obama hasn't raised taxes during his first four years.

Can't see the video atm, but...

Status quo meaning sluggish economy, trillion dollar a year deficits, crumbling foreign policy, hiding under his desk and hoping the big decisions will go away, etc. Obama has basically phoned in the last two years of his presidency and the country is suffering for it.

Edited, Sep 25th 2012 4:23pm by gbaji

I suppose that depends on whether you place more importance on some assumed result of "relations" rather than actual results in terms of foreign policy. Obama's certainly gone with the "if we're nice to them, they'll be nice to us" approach. And if you assume that this will produce better results, you'll judge the previous policy as "bad" and this one as "good".

The problem is that the outcomes don't match that theory, do they? As much as the left claimed that Bush's policy would anger people and create more problems, the reality is that during his watch we experienced a number of positive outcomes in the Middle East and were turning around a pattern of increased violence from extremist organizations within the region while building the strength to resist those forces among the governments in that same region. Under Obama, Afghanistan has collapsed into complete failure, several governments have toppled and been replaced with ones much more aligned with said extremists (or at least less able to resist them), and we're watching our embassies in the region burn. His idea that they'd like him because he was "on their side" (so to speak) didn't work. They're burning him in effigy as well.


At some point, one really should re-assess one's assumptions about which type of foreign policy is really better.

When did Gbaji start referring to himself as "one"? Does he think he is Neo?

Thirty people died in a total of six attacks on US diplomatic outposts during Bush's first term and a total of sixty died in embassy/consulate attacks by the time he was out of office.

Indeed.

Because breeding based on political ideology worked so well in Germany.

They had pretty kickin pride parades.

Point / Counterpoint!





Edited, Sep 26th 2012 4:59pm by Jophiel

Is it THAT hard to hire people who aren't idiots?

As staffers from a pool that's primarily the MASSACHUSETTS GOP? Yes. It's a small state, it's a very entrenched one party system for the most part. If you were talented and working for the GOP (unlikely to begin with) you're working for Romney. I imagine they're some donor's kids. (that's a complete guess)

Edit: Also, I take the kids to the museum for one day and nobody mentions that Gallup tracking has Obama +6 in the national horserace? That's a nightmare number for Romney. The recent stuff from Ohio is even worse. Too early to gloat, but, man, it's 42-14 in the 3rd quarter. I want Obama to win, but it could at least be slightly entertaining.

Edited, Sep 26th 2012 8:02pm by Smasharoo

All those embassy workers who died under Bush don't count because they didn't meet the Gbaji Standard. File them along with date rape victims and children of gay couples, I guess.

Edited, Sep 26th 2012 8:44pm by Jophiel

Were any of them actually ambassadors? If they're all just redshirts, well, then nobody's gonna notice.