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#1 Sep 24 2012 at 10:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nine more days until round #1. Both sides are playing the "Romney's really good" card. Romney because he needs people to hang on to the hope that the debates will turn this around, Obama because he just needs to break even to maintain the status quo. The more awesome everyone expects Romney to be, the easier it is for Obama to hold his own against the expectations.

Obama is currently 3.7 points ahead of Romney according to the latest RCP average and has 48.6 percent of the vote -- right about where he was at his post-convention peak two weeks ago.
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#2 Sep 24 2012 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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In before oversampling.

Don't really see anything new, or unexpected, going on, nor do I really expect any surprises. Both will most likely stick to a script of comments, and the one who strays furthest from their script will suffer.
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In before oversampling.

Don't really see anything new, or unexpected, going on, nor do I really expect any surprises. Both will most likely stick to a script of comments, and the one who strays furthest from their script will suffer.


Nah, I'd definitely give the edge to Obama when it comes to improv. If he's pushed, he can go far without completely **** it up, unlike Romney.
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So what are the odds of either candidate actually answering a question this time around?
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Romney will say something really stupid or offensive, Obama will say something socialist. Then it's really a contest of who gets best spun.

My money is on Obama to win the classic style debate.
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So what are the odds of either candidate actually answering a question this time around?

The debate should be jeopardy style.

What is 'tax the wealthy'?
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#7 Sep 24 2012 at 11:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Obama can get so verbose no one really remembers anything he said afterwards. Romney comes out swinging, going for sound bites, trying to say stuff that will stick with people to give his campaign a little uptick. Hopefully it for him isn't anything negative, or easily taken out of context.
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#8 Sep 24 2012 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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Hopefully it for him isn't anything negative, or easily taken out of context.
They'll both say things that'll be taken out of context. I'd be surprised if it didn't happen.
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Here's my hippie analysis: Romney's already sweating pretty hard. His most recent commercials released show him looking a little crazed, and wild-eyed. I think he's pretty raw, and I read some really geeky astrological compendium a month ago detailing how Romney was going to have **** hit the fan beginning in October and riding out until at least mid December, and nothing even comparable happening in Obama's chart. Sounds about right.
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cidbahamut wrote:
So what are the odds of either candidate actually answering a question this time around?

They'll answer questions, just not the ones being asked.

"And what is your view on kitten punching?"
"Thank you and first I'd like to go back to a statement my opponent made regarding squirrel rodeos..."
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Lack of reading comprehension is necessary to make generic blanket statements.
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If you have a business you didnt build that is what we get from obama off the cuff.
I know I wasn't wrong, but you don't need to try so hard to prove me right.
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Do you really think romney is going to do worse than the apologist mccain?

"I bet our guy doesn't do quite as poorly as our guy who lost last time! So HA!"
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#16 Sep 24 2012 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Do you really think romney is going to do worse than the apologist mccain?
"I bet our guy doesn't do quite as poorly as our guy who lost last time! So HA!"
It's funny because Romney did worse than McCain last time.
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#17 Sep 24 2012 at 12:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think either candidate is going to wipe the floor with the other one. Obama is a competent debater but it's not really his format. Romney "won" most of his debates by default by not looking as mentally retarded as Perry/Bachmann/Gingrich/Cain and showed a propensity to get flustered if he got off message.

I think they'll largely be a draw which, given the current state of the campaign, will be a loss for Romney.
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Here's my hippie analysis: Romney's already sweating pretty hard. His most recent commercials released show him looking a little crazed, and wild-eyed. I think he's pretty raw, and I read some really geeky astrological compendium a month ago detailing how Romney was going to have sh*t hit the fan beginning in October and riding out until at least mid December, and nothing even comparable happening in Obama's chart. Sounds about right.

According to my moon magician, Romney will be possessed by the spirit of the elephant god, Ganesha, lord of obstacles.

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I think that will only be good for Obama.
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Then it's really a contest of who gets best spun.


That'd be great, Romney's communications team are are unforgivably awful. Really though, debates don't matter much in most elections. Obama's really the only one with anything at risk. Romney's already losing., if he loses with 220 Electoral Votes or 200, no one cares.
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Obama is a competent debater but it's not really his format.


Another case of the MAN keeping the brothers down. Would Romney agree to a basketball competition or a **** measuring contest. Clearly no, but Obama is forced into a wake up wearing Vaseline smile talking contest.

And they say it's a post racial society...
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#22 Sep 24 2012 at 2:12 PM Rating: Excellent
I just don't trust Romney to not stick his foot in his mouth, on both sides of any given issue, another half dozen times or so before the election. Obama's really just got to do nothing, while Romney eats shit for whatever out of touch **** he's spewing on a given week, & Obama's got a 2nd term.

Oh, & Israel has to hold off on attacking Iran until then too.
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Omg liberals think obama's going to do great and romneys going to bomb.

Things are looking bleak for obama

You're insane, and a moron to boot, if you think this is going to end up in any way good for Romney.
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#24 Sep 25 2012 at 10:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Scott Brown staffers mocking Warren's claims of Cherokee heritage... by making tomahawk chops and Indian war whoops.



Is it THAT hard to hire people who aren't idiots? I mean, we're in a recession... there's gotta be some people out there who know not to step on their own ****
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#25 Sep 25 2012 at 10:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Is it THAT hard to hire people who aren't idiots?
Yes. Yes it is.
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#26 Sep 25 2012 at 10:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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That sort of behavior is pretty standard around here when we want a guy to lower taxes.
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Romney is kind enough to admit that Obama hasn't raised taxes during his first four years.

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#28 Sep 25 2012 at 5:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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"He hasn't raised taxes, and his plan is to continue the status quo" Does he even listen to himself?
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"He hasn't raised taxes, and his plan is to continue the status quo" Does he even listen to himself?


Can't see the video atm, but...

Status quo meaning sluggish economy, trillion dollar a year deficits, crumbling foreign policy, hiding under his desk and hoping the big decisions will go away, etc. Obama has basically phoned in the last two years of his presidency and the country is suffering for it.

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I get a kick out of "crumbling foreign policy" given the state of America's foreign relations prior to Obama taking office.
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I get a kick out of "crumbling foreign policy" given the state of America's foreign relations prior to Obama taking office.


I suppose that depends on whether you place more importance on some assumed result of "relations" rather than actual results in terms of foreign policy. Obama's certainly gone with the "if we're nice to them, they'll be nice to us" approach. And if you assume that this will produce better results, you'll judge the previous policy as "bad" and this one as "good".

The problem is that the outcomes don't match that theory, do they? As much as the left claimed that Bush's policy would anger people and create more problems, the reality is that during his watch we experienced a number of positive outcomes in the Middle East and were turning around a pattern of increased violence from extremist organizations within the region while building the strength to resist those forces among the governments in that same region. Under Obama, Afghanistan has collapsed into complete failure, several governments have toppled and been replaced with ones much more aligned with said extremists (or at least less able to resist them), and we're watching our embassies in the region burn. His idea that they'd like him because he was "on their side" (so to speak) didn't work. They're burning him in effigy as well.


At some point, one really should re-assess one's assumptions about which type of foreign policy is really better.
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I suppose if you want to play the "it doesn't carry over" game, then the right was responsible for the planes crashing into the World Trade Center. This game is fun.
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At some point, one really should re-assess one's assumptions about which type of foreign policy is really better.


When did Gbaji start referring to himself as "one"? Does he think he is Neo?
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Can't see the video atm, but... that doesn't mean I won't pontificate on something which I clearly don't get, not having actually seen what we are talking about. I am just going to make assumptions, and then defend whatever gbaji spews from my mouth, no matter what.



FTFY

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Under Obama [...] we're watching our embassies in the region burn.

Thirty people died in a total of six attacks on US diplomatic outposts during Bush's first term and a total of sixty died in embassy/consulate attacks by the time he was out of office.
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At some point, one really should re-assess one's assumptions about which type of foreign policy is really better.

Indeed.
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A pair of surveys asked Americans a more concrete question: in 1960, whether they would be 'displeased' if their child married someone outside their political party, and, in 2010, would be 'upset' if their child married someone of the other party. In 1960, about 5 percent of Americans expressed a negative reaction to party intermarriage; in 2010, about 40 percent did (Republicans about 50 percent, Democrats about 30 percent).

Stop mixed marriages!
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Because breeding based on political ideology worked so well in Germany.
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They had pretty kickin pride parades.
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My father was a party machine Republican (his family is the North Dakota GoP), and my mother was a Labor Democrat. However, neither of them were rabid about it, and honestly they were both low information voters.

They joked every November about going to cancel out each other's votes.

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My biggest problem with that video is that his criteria for defining "compassion" makes no logical or linguistic sense. Compassion is about intent, not results.
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Is it THAT hard to hire people who aren't idiots?


As staffers from a pool that's primarily the MASSACHUSETTS GOP? Yes. It's a small state, it's a very entrenched one party system for the most part. If you were talented and working for the GOP (unlikely to begin with) you're working for Romney. I imagine they're some donor's kids. (that's a complete guess)

Edit: Also, I take the kids to the museum for one day and nobody mentions that Gallup tracking has Obama +6 in the national horserace? That's a nightmare number for Romney. The recent stuff from Ohio is even worse. Too early to gloat, but, man, it's 42-14 in the 3rd quarter. I want Obama to win, but it could at least be slightly entertaining.

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Ironic given that the GOP is clinging desperately to Rasmussen's polls as holy writ these days. Funnier was a few days ago when he had Obama +2 and they were all talking about how Scott Rasmussen must be oversampling Democrats as well Smiley: laugh
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#46gbaji, Posted: Sep 26 2012 at 7:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Great! So you agree that Obama's "let's be nice to them, and they'll be nice to us back" approach has failed utterly? I knew you'd eventually come around.
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I declare all of Gbaji's posts to be gbadjidagook.
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All those embassy workers who died under Bush don't count because they didn't meet the Gbaji Standard. File them along with date rape victims and children of **** couples, I guess.

Edited, Sep 26th 2012 8:44pm by Jophiel
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Perception of weakness and vulnerability is a huge part of this.


Yes.


Right now, the US looks weak and our embassies are easy targets


No. Newly formed governments are seen as weak....because they are weak. Let's aside for the moment the idiotic idea that his was some sort of "organic" protest/mob violence. Assuming it was, who is that mob more at risk from? The local constabulary or the US? What a moronic US centric concept.

The reality is the strong governments in the region are de facto in control of conditions on the street in the weak ones, as it's allays been.
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All those embassy workers who died under Bush don't count because they didn't meet the Gbaji Standard. File them along with date rape victims and children of **** couples, I guess.

Were any of them actually ambassadors? If they're all just redshirts, well, then nobody's gonna notice.
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#51gbaji, Posted: Sep 26 2012 at 8:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yup. So apply that to Obama's foreign policy. He's cheered (from the sidelines) movements which caused governmental collapse in several nations, taken no part in rebuilding them or strengthening them against those stronger governments, and then steadfastly refused to take any action, even verbal against those stronger governments when they merrily send their agents in to manipulate the new and weaker governments.
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