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#27 Sep 21 2012 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Id rather spend money solving problems we face today, like the rampant hunger issues plaguing the world, issues that should have not existed since the Agricultural revolution, let alone the industrial revolution. I dunno, guess I am more of a realist and not into some spooky predictions of something that is completely hypothetical, and largely irrelevant.

Food production isn't the problem that leads to starvation. It's intentional. Societies in power need to maintain control over subject societies so they inflict varying degrees of stress on them. Sometimes letting thousands die through inaction, sometimes just killing them out of hand. How is the possibly not obvious given the history of mankind???
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#28 Sep 21 2012 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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If it makes you feel better, you'll be long dead when our descendants are clinging to a perilous existence in tropical Antarctica while the oceans boil away and giant swarms of super mosquito-cockroaches kill every other living thing with an antibiotic-resistant ebola plague.

I'm more worried about the US after another couple years of drought. Granted, I probably won't be dead but I doubt it'll be working to my advantage either.

The "Well, the EARTH won't go away!" and associated arguments are as stupid as "You can still SAY you're married!" argument for SSM -- it completely misses the actual point of the debate.

Edited, Sep 21st 2012 1:56pm by Jophiel
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#29 Sep 21 2012 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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If it makes you feel better, you'll be long dead when our descendants are clinging to a perilous existence in tropical Antarctica while the oceans boil away and giant swarms of super mosquito-cockroaches kill every other living thing with an antibiotic-resistant ebola plague.

I'm more worried about the US after another couple years of drought. Granted, I probably won't be dead but I doubt it'll be working to my advantage either.

Maybe your company could start working on integrating advanced irrigation systems...
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Right. Because in the midst of a multi-year drought, one thing we'd have a lot of is water Smiley: grin
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#31 Sep 21 2012 at 2:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Right. Because in the midst of a multi-year drought, one thing we'd have a lot of is water Smiley: grin

To help distribute what water is available, duh. Smiley: rolleyes


edit: wtf those smileys go?

Edited, Sep 21st 2012 4:41pm by Debalic
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I seem to recall some scientist saying some years back that the canary in the coalmine was Antarctica. As long as the ice fields were stable there, we're a-ok.

Remember when that Connecticut-sized piece broke off the Ross ice sheet a few years back? OOPS

I'd laugh at you coasties drowning it it weren't for the terrible drought where I am.

Did I mention that the temps this last February hit or exceeded 70 F in South Dakota for most of the month?

HINT: This isn't anywhere near normal on an 100 year scale.
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#33 Sep 21 2012 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good
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The world couldn't possibly be 3 degrees hotter 400,000 years ago when it's clearly only a little over 2,000 years old. Mythbusted, *****.


Creationist's Timeline, 6000 year old scale.

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Jesus fits in right around the tail end of the Archaen era.
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#34 Sep 21 2012 at 9:56 PM Rating: Default
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If we cause ourselves to go extinct, natural progression and all that

Yeah, that's awesome and very deep of you and all but I'm really happier staying alive.
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Id rather spend money solving problems we face today, like the rampant hunger issues plaguing the world, issues that should have not existed since the Agricultural revolution, let alone the industrial revolution.

Modern hunger is a political problem. Change the climate enough and you'll have a hunger problem for the scientists, I suppose.

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You and I have **** heads on this numerous times.

All I can say is, there is no conclusive evidence that humanity is the cause of this rise in temperature or if it is part of an overall natural cycle. I don't dismiss science, but I will call hypothetical, hypothetical when it is. Global Warming is an Opinion, shared by many many people, but is not a consensus, and it can not ever be, because this is the first time humans have been involved in the equation.

It was hotter 400,000 years ago, and are still progressing on a similar heating cycle.

I do not dismiss it, but nor do I buy into it.

Personally I don't think humans have the effect that scientists claim we do, but I do agree that there is something going on that we have never experienced before, and we should be frightened by it. It is only human nature.



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None of that had anything to do with what I said but, sure. Glad you got it out of your system Smiley: smile
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#36 Sep 21 2012 at 10:44 PM Rating: Default
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None of that had anything to do with what I said but, sure. Glad you got it out of your system Smiley: smile


Well you are going to be dead before anything serious goes down anyway. I figured that was a given and you were just having a moment.
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#37 Sep 22 2012 at 1:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's all right if you don't have to suffer?

It's all right if any of us here on the forum don't have to suffer?
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#38 Sep 22 2012 at 2:14 AM Rating: Good
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I do not dismiss it, but nor do I buy into it.


Then you're an idiot.

Greenhouse gases trap heat. This is proven. Green house gas levels correlate to overall climate change in the historical record. This is also proven. Human kind the last 150 years has produced levels of greenhouse gas that far exceed any natural variation observable in the historical record. This is proven.

Conclusion: You'd have to be an idiot to deny the effect mankind has had in altering the natural cycle.
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#39 Sep 22 2012 at 6:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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The scientists who are saying ACC is happening have taken into account natural climate cycles the earth goes through, including the fact that we're geologically slowly coming out of an ice age. They have definitely taken into account that the sun is going through a "hot phase" and is putting out more sunlight onto the Earth than it was a hundred years ago. They've taken into consideration all the volcanic activity releasing CO2. They've taken into consideration every conceivable background, natural explanation for temperature fluctuations and they STILL come up with 50% of the temperature rise over the last hundred years coming from human release of CO2 from under the Earth into the atmosphere.

There are now 40 extremely sophisticated computer models running all over the world that all pretty much agree with each other on where ACC has come from, what it's done to the Earth right now, and what effects it'll have on the Earth if X amounts of more CO2 is released over Y period of time.
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#40 Sep 22 2012 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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The emission of greenhouse gases in the U.S. per capita has actually fallen over the past decade or so.

If you want to lecture somebody, go to China; those little ******* are polluting like mad.
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#41 Sep 22 2012 at 8:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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The emission of greenhouse gases in the U.S. per capita has actually fallen over the past decade or so.

If you want to lecture somebody, go to China; those little @#%^ers are polluting like mad.


• The US is still number one in terms of per capita emissions among the big economies - with 18 tonnes emitted per person
• China, by contrast, emits under six tonnes per person, India only 1.38

~2012 figures
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#42 Sep 22 2012 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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Ari... you know that facts have no relevance in an emotional argument. Let's go get big bad China!!
#43 Sep 22 2012 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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Considering China has more than three times our population (four?)...I think it's a valid concern.
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#44 Sep 22 2012 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
Don't forget about all the methane getting released in the Arctic as the (formerly) permafrost melts, further increasing the runaway green house effect.
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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/geekquinox/antarctic-sea-ice-record-high-doesn-t-disprove-185906522.html

TLDR we think a bunch of **** is going on, but we don't know we haven't experienced it before. But we are certain that Global warming is real...but it might not be. We don't know.
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#46 Sep 22 2012 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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That's not at all what it says. When you give a "tl;dr", you might want to, you know, read it first.
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#47 Sep 23 2012 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Even if you don't believe it's happening, why take the chance?
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#48 Sep 23 2012 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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Even if you don't believe it's happening, why take the chance?


It cuts into profits. Since the GOP is the loudest at saying it not our fault this is all that needs to be said.
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Even if you don't believe it's happening, why take the chance?


It cuts into profits. Since the GOP is the loudest at saying it not our fault this is all that needs to be said.
Not everything cuts into profits. A lot of green initiatives have excellent ROI's.
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#50 Sep 23 2012 at 10:11 PM Rating: Default
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Even if you don't believe it's happening, why take the chance?


Similar thought process resulted in a near decade war that helped bankrupt a nation. Speaking of did they ever find those pesky WMD's?
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#51 Sep 24 2012 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
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Even if you don't believe it's happening, why take the chance?


Similar thought process resulted in a near decade war that helped bankrupt a nation. Speaking of did they ever find those pesky WMD's?

...and the two are comparative events how?

There is plenty of reason to wean ourselves off fossil fuels. The planet is already suffering from the effects of atmospheric changes due to increased levels of CO2. No need to 'wait and see' if it's going to happen. It has, it is, and will continue to do so. How much or how little the changing climate will impact you may be negligible, but there's no denying that burning fossil fuels is not sustainable, not healthy and is changing our atmosphere.

Human health effects of air pollution alone should have prompted us to continue to find better, cleaner and more efficient ways to create and use energy decades ago.
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