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#1 Sep 05 2012 at 7:17 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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This is fantastic stuff.


Dems actually booing God and the statement that "Jerusalem is Israel's capital"


This is gonna play so well with all of those Jewish people in Florida. :-)


And all of this after the DNC on the First night put a video together that inferred that we all belong to the Government. Republican bloggers are having a field day with this one. Link


2 days and 2 wonderful **** ups and Biden hasn't even opened his mouth yet. Can't wait for night three.
#2 Sep 05 2012 at 7:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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#3 Sep 05 2012 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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God's a big boy. I'm sure He can handle it.
Besides, he's a Republican so why would he care if some random assortment of liberals boo'd him?
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He's angrily posting about it on Facebook right now!

God says I just hate ppl who act like theyre youre friends n then when you turn ur back they stab you and talk sh*t about u... if this is u u no who i meen!!!
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Edited, Sep 5th 2012 8:34pm by Jophiel
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#5 Sep 05 2012 at 7:48 PM Rating: Good
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Considering the Old Testament, I'd have pegged God for a myspacer.
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#6 Sep 05 2012 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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Considering the Old Testament, I'd have pegged God for a myspacer.
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#7 Sep 05 2012 at 11:50 PM Rating: Good
Haha! Obama has bumper stickers available in his online store that say "Made in America" with part of his birth certificate on it. That's awesome. I may buy one...

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Smiley: laugh

There's really no way to make the conspiracy about President Obama's birth certificate completely go away, so we might as well laugh at it -- and make sure as many people as possible are in on the joke. Get your Obama birth certificate Made in the USA bumper sticker combo today.


Edited, Sep 6th 2012 12:52am by Belkira
#8 Sep 06 2012 at 7:02 AM Rating: Decent
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It's actually quite nice this time of year.
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#11 Sep 06 2012 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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He's angrily posting about it on Facebook right now!

God says I just hate ppl who act like theyre youre friends n then when you turn ur back they stab you and talk sh*t about u... if this is u u no who i meen!!!
Satan likes this


God's Facebook page has much better grammar than that. For shame, Joph.

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Supposedly Obama personally pushed for the changes in the platform yesterday.

So Obama doesn't like the platform and twists arms to get it changed even if it means boos from the hoi polloi.
Romney supposedly doesn't like the abortion language in the GOP platform and bravely whispers ("We don't really think that") into his sleeve before slinking off to avoid angering the base.

No wonder I'm confident that a president Romney would be a rubber stamp for whatever insane shit the GOP throws his way. I'm supposed to be all upset that some Democrats booed? I'd be more upset if my candidate was too big a pussy to risk them booing.
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#13 Sep 06 2012 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
He's angrily posting about it on Facebook right now!

God says I just hate ppl who act like theyre youre friends n then when you turn ur back they stab you and talk sh*t about u... if this is u u no who i meen!!!
Satan likes this


God's Facebook page has much better grammar than that. For shame, Joph.




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#14 Sep 06 2012 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Supposedly Obama personally pushed for the changes in the platform yesterday.


I'm sure he was riding a white horse while doing it too!

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So Obama doesn't like the platform and twists arms to get it changed even if it means boos from the hoi polloi.


If Obama had personally stood up and insisted that the Delegates allow the change, you'd have a point. The more likely reality is that some political wonk read over the DNC platform and realized that they'd removed any and all references to God from it and removed the whole Jerusalem thing, and then realized that this might just not go over so well with the less radical Dem voters. Then they attempted to put the language back in, got booed. Tried again, got booed again. Then did a third vote, clearly lost but pretended that the Delegates said aye, so they could make the last minute change (technically changing back what was already changed).


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Romney supposedly doesn't like the abortion language in the GOP platform and bravely whispers ("We don't really think that") into his sleeve before slinking off to avoid angering the base.


Ah... Supposedly again. Is that Joph code for "I'm just making this up as I go along"?


I think the bigger issue here is that liberal pundits made the "GOP is becoming more radical" argument for like a week, using the abortion language as support, despite the fact that said language hadn't changed at all. Meanwhile, the Dems have actually changed their platform by removing the God and Jerusalem language. So isn't it the left projecting their own increasingly radical (I'm sorry, the word they keep using is "extremist") platform onto the right? It's beyond hypocrisy.


The GOP isn't concerned that it'll chase away voters with the language in their platform Joph, because that language hasn't changed. People know where the GOP stands and has stood on these issues. Yes. Even Romney knows this. It's the Dems who seem to be falling apart and having an increasingly hard time keeping their own members on board, let along moderates and independents. That's what this incident highlights.
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If Obama had personally stood up and insisted that the Delegates allow the change, you'd have a point. The more likely reality is that ...

...Gbaji realizes this looks bad for him so he'd better hurry and change the story! Smiley: laugh

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Romney supposedly doesn't like the abortion language in the GOP platform and bravely whispers ("We don't really think that") into his sleeve before slinking off to avoid angering the base.
Ah... Supposedly again. Is that Joph code for "I'm just making this up as I go along"?

Making what up? Romney didn't try to change the platform. He gave a lame statement that he supported incest/rape exemptions and left it at that with no attempt to change anything. He's either lying about his opinion of the platform, or else he's a pussy, beholden to the radical wings of his party. He's supposed to be the standard-bearer for the GOP, but he's unwilling to actually do anything to change the standard.

I'm sorry the truth hurts your feelings or your narrative or whatever you're upset about but them's the breaks.

Edited, Sep 6th 2012 3:26pm by Jophiel
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#16 Sep 06 2012 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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Party platforms are mostly meaningless. No one is referencing them outside of the convention weeks.
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If Obama had personally stood up and insisted that the Delegates allow the change, you'd have a point. The more likely reality is that ...

...Gbaji realizes this looks bad for him so he'd better hurry and change the story! Smiley: laugh


What story? That you're speculating about something that Obama might have done behind the scenes and painting him as brave or whatever for doing it? Seriously? I mean, at least Romney said his position publicly. Assuming Obama was even involved as you claim, he kept himself out of it (publicly) and let surrogates do it for him. Wow. That's really so admirable of him! What bravery he showed, hiding behind a curtain while someone else used procedural tricks to make a change to the platform in order to make it appear like the Dems are less anti-semitic than they really are. Can't lose the Jewish vote, now can you?

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Making what up? Romney didn't try to change the platform. He gave a lame statement that he supported incest/rape exemptions and left it at that with no attempt to change anything.


And? So what? Romney states that on that issue, he disagrees with the party platform. Is this a surprise? See. In GOP land, we don't have a requirement that everyone must be in lockstep all the time. Apparently, that's not true on the other side of the fence though. Neither Romney nor Ryan have made any attempt to conceal the fact that they differ slightly on their position on abortion. And no one in their own party has booed either one of them for it.


You're seriously arguing that what happened at the DNC is more upfront and honest?
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Party platforms are mostly meaningless. No one is referencing them outside of the convention weeks.


More or less true. You can look at changes over time in the platform to give you an idea of the issues that party believes are important enough to make changes on, and the direction those changes are taking.

This is why making a big deal out of something in the GOP platform that wasn't a change from past years was (or should have been) a non story. It's also why the removal of the word "God" from the Dem platform and removal of some statement about Jerusalem as the capital of Israel are both significant. They are changes. Someone in the Dem party thought it was important enough to make those changes to spend the time working to get them changed, and enough people involved in writing the platform this year agreed that these changes represented significant enough new positions of the Democratic party to approve them.

What this means is that in the last 4 years, the Democratic party position on those two things has changed. Well, or said change has become a strongly enough held position that it could be reflected in the official platform for the first time this year. I think that's worth at least noting. I mean, it is what it is. If you don't have a problem with those changes, then it's not a problem. But obviously, enough people in the party thought this was a problem, or would be a problem among donors/voters that they had to use a procedural trick to make a last minute change to appease them.


Which brings us to the final reason this is significant. It represents a significant split within the party between what those involved in actually writing the platform think the party should be, and what those who's job is to get their members elected think the party should be. It suggests that the platform was viewed (on those issues) to be enough of a problem for a large enough voting block to require a rapid last minute change. Which kinda suggests that even some Democrats realize their party has become a bit too radical for the mainstream. They had to dial the platform back a bit.
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What story? That you're speculating...

No, I'm going my reports but I understand why it's so important to you to make it sound like I'm just guessing.

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And? So what?

So Romney's a pussy and a push-over when it comes to the radical wing of his party. I thought that was crystal clear. I mean, it was already obvious from the primaries but this just drove it home further.
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What story? That you're speculating...

No, I'm going my reports but I understand why it's so important to you to make it sound like I'm just guessing.


Reports from whom? People speculating about why the last minute change? So it's not you speculating, you're just repeating reports from people who are. Well, thanks for clearing that right up! Smiley: lol

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And? So what?

So Romney's a pussy and a push-over when it comes to the radical wing of his party. I thought that was crystal clear. I mean, it was already obvious from the primaries but this just drove it home further.


I thought you liked people who compromise Joph. WTF? I mean, heaven forbid that Romney not make a huge deal out of a minor difference between his personal position and the platform of his party on a minor issue, that isn't even his focus, nor the focus of the current political environment. Contrary to desperate attempts by the left, this election is not really about abortion. No one really cares about abortion. It's not an issue. Especially not some platform position which posits a desire to pass a constitutional amendment on the issue "someday". People care about the economy. They care about an unemployment rate that seems stuck above 8%. They care about looming tax increases resulting from careless spending by their government over the last few years. They want to know that whomever they elect will have the skills and will to make the necessary changes to policy to correct those problems.


It's not the GOP obsessing over these social issues Joph. It's the Dems. That's what this whole thing highlights. The Dems were obviously so concerned about their platform that they had to push through a last minute change on the floor of the convention. That speaks volumes about where their heads are right now. For the GOP, these are minor side issues. We're focused on the real problems. But since the Dems don't want to focus on the economy, they have to focus on social policy. And that leads them to the embarrassing (and obviously rigged) floor vote we saw.
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I thought you liked people who compromise Joph. WTF?

He's not compromising. I don't believe for a second that he wouldn't sign a bill banning all abortion if the GOP gave him one. When he can actually stand up to his party I might believe he's "compromising" rather than caving.

But keep on talking about how it all doesn't matter if it makes you feel better about Romney being a weak pussy. Maybe later he'll stomp his feet, pout out his lip and demand an apology from me.
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#22 Sep 07 2012 at 2:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
a minor difference between his personal position and the platform of his party
No abortion AT ALL vs No abortion unless rape/incest/health is a HUGE difference, and if you can't see that you must be functionally retarded.


I mean REALLY? Do you think we're retarded? Is that it? We're just to thick to notice that NO AT ALL NEVER =! ok, sometimes?


Holy ****, you just lost the last vestige of whatever respect I had for you.(which, admitedly, wasn't much).




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#23 Sep 07 2012 at 5:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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We're just to thick to notice that NO AT ALL NEVER =! ok, sometimes?


But I thought no means maybe!

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#24 Sep 07 2012 at 5:54 AM Rating: Good
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We're just to thick to notice that NO AT ALL NEVER =! ok, sometimes?


But I thought no means maybe!


As any kid will tell you, it's the other way around.

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a minor difference between his personal position and the platform of his party
No abortion AT ALL vs No abortion unless rape/incest/health is a HUGE difference, and if you can't see that you must be functionally retarded.


I mean REALLY? Do you think we're retarded? Is that it? We're just to thick to notice that NO AT ALL NEVER =! ok, sometimes?


Holy @#%^, you just lost the last vestige of whatever respect I had for you.(which, admitedly, wasn't much).






It's not a huge difference to me. Sure Romney might allow the states to provide for exemptions in rape, but ultimately if a bill came before him that made abortions illegal - he'd sign it. That's what's meaningful to me.
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But I thought no means maybe!
50 nos and a yes, means yes.
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