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#27 Sep 05 2012 at 6:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think Ann would have married Mitt if he picked her up for dates in a car so rusty she could see the street through a hole in the door.

Also, the Obamas only finished paying off their student loans about eight years ago. The Romneys had no student loans.

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#28 Sep 05 2012 at 6:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Given the assumption of being "middle class", I'd expect that most are far far more concerned about what they have being taken away, than the government failing to provide something they don't really need (or want).

Well, thanks for speaking for my bracket. Do we owe you a check now or what?

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I love how Republicans try to tear down the Obamas for working their asses off and studying and attending some of the best schools in the nation.
Not what I'm doing at all.

Heh... sure. Just keep saying I'm "projecting" and that will make it less hypocritical Smiley: laugh

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#29 Sep 05 2012 at 6:46 PM Rating: Default
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Except that "maximizing profits" in this context means decreasing government costs relative to government revenues, so the winners of his actions would be all of us. He has experience finding ways to take companies that are struggling and near (or in) bankruptcy and turning them around.
Except running a business is nothing like running a country, since you're pretty much required in a business to cut low performing sectors and personnel along with cutting costs to maximize revenue.


That's half of the equation, sure. I'm sorry. Is "cutting federal spending" something that people aren't clamoring for right now? Cause I thought it was. So someone who knows where and what and how much to cut would seem to be the kind of guy we need, while the guy who has never had to cut spending for anything in his life would be clueless. You get that Obama has never in his life been the guy on the other side of the counter having to make sure that spending stays under revenue, right? He's always been the guy trying to convince the other guy to give him a better deal.

That's why Romney is vastly better at dealing with our current economic woes.

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Which is hilarious every time people mention the country should be run as a business, since it becomes painfully obvious those same people slept through their high school economics classes.


Or perhaps, they know exactly what they're talking about and realize that what we need right now is someone who can find ways to cut spending. The folks who slept through economics class are the ones who think that some magic process will occur that will allow us to continue to spend more money than we have and not suffer any ill effects.

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Though, I'm all for firing a few states. We could probably hire a few Mexican territories to replace them, since they work more for less pay.


Yup. Definitely slept through economics class. Firing states? Are you kidding? WTF does that even mean? Federal budgets don't work that way btw.


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So why did you say it?
Why would I need to explain something from step one to you if you're "ten steps ahead" already? Or are you admitting you ran in the wrong direction? I, in my benevolence, might be convinced to use tiny words and explain it if you admit you have no idea what you're talking about. Smiley: smile


Oh. I know exactly what I'm talking about, and I've been quite clear about it. What's not so clear is what you're talking about though. I can't read your mind. I can only respond to what you post. And based on your posts, I've speculated about what your argument is. Now, if I'm wrong, by all means correct me. But you haven't even said that I'm wrong. Just kinda danced around the issue.


We're not really going to play the "guess what I meant" game again? Cause it was so productive the last 8 times.

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You still haven't quite got it, but you're really close.


Yeah. Sure. If you want to clarify what you meant by the comment about meeting someone while attending a $20k/year grade school, then do so. If not, don't ***** that I'm wrong about what you meant. Pick one.
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#30 Sep 05 2012 at 7:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Firing states? Are you kidding? WTF does that even mean?
So you have less than no idea how a business works, but that generic "made tough choices" and "made profitable" bullet points just sound really good to you so you're just going to repeat that instead, especially if no one tells you just what those tough choices were. I'm only left to believe what you think a tough business choice is is to get toilet paper from Costco instead of Wal-mart.
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Yeah. Sure.
You're the one ten steps ahead. It'd be rude of me to explain something you boasted you understood and were far ahead of. To be fair, you're neither closer or farther than your last post.
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#31gbaji, Posted: Sep 05 2012 at 7:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't know if the Romneys had student loans to pay off or not. Let's also not forget that Romney graduated Harvard when Obama was in 8th grade (and 16 years before Obama did). So the age equivalent statement would be that the Obamas "only finished paying off their student loans 24 years ago". Not quite the same dramatic statement, is it?
#32 Sep 05 2012 at 7:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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I tend to remember and be impacted by things that happened eight years ago than I am by things that happened 24 years ago so the difference seems significant enough to me.

Assuming, of course, that Romney had loans which seems fairly unlikely.
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This is the family that went on trips driving the whole group (5 boys in the car and a dog in the roof carrier) in the family station wagon. That's a lot more Griswald, and not so much Rockefeller. Wouldn't you agree?

Depends on the station wagon.

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#33ThiefX, Posted: Sep 05 2012 at 7:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LMAO lolgaxe is trying desperately to run away from a stupid comment he made without admitting he was wrong. Joph must be so proud of you.
#34 Sep 05 2012 at 7:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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How was the football game with your tens of thousands of guests? Smiley: smile
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#35ThiefX, Posted: Sep 05 2012 at 7:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pretty **** good actually. USC won.
#36 Sep 05 2012 at 7:24 PM Rating: Good
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That's good, I'd hate for you and all those guests to have had a lousy time.
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#37 Sep 05 2012 at 8:14 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
I tend to remember and be impacted by things that happened eight years ago than I am by things that happened 24 years ago so the difference seems significant enough to me.


Sure. And when Obama is the same number of years out of college that Romney is, he'll have paid his loans off 24 years ago. I didn't think my point was that hard to grasp.

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Assuming, of course, that Romney had loans which seems fairly unlikely.


Kind of irrelevant, isn't it? I mean, both of them have paid for their education. At what time and what rate isn't really very significant, is it?


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This is the family that went on trips driving the whole group (5 boys in the car and a dog in the roof carrier) in the family station wagon. That's a lot more Griswald, and not so much Rockefeller. Wouldn't you agree?

Depends on the station wagon.


Given the time period? I don't think it does
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#38 Sep 05 2012 at 8:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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I didn't think my point was that hard to grasp either and here it slipped right through your fingers. Interesting, huh?
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#39 Sep 05 2012 at 8:18 PM Rating: Good
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All things considered, Clark Griswald as President is a lot less appealing than Rockefeller, and he's been dead for 75 years.
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I'd forgotten what an amazing orator Clinton is.
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Haha... f-you, television networks who thought you were going to broadcast a single hour of DNC tonight.
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#42 Sep 05 2012 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
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I'd forgotten what an amazing orator Clinton is.
He made raising his state's education level from last to 49th sound like an impressive accomplishment, so gotta give him that.
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#43 Sep 05 2012 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
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This is the family that went on trips driving the whole group (5 boys in the car and a dog in the roof carrier) in the family station wagon.


The idea that even idiot uniformed "independent voters" are buying that the Governor of Michigan's kid with his JD and MBA from Harvard paid for by daddy was struggling to get by stretches credulity a bit, doesn't it? Particularly given Romney's persona generally. W could get away with seeming like a regular guy, he had a common touch. A fake Texas accent, a real drinking problem, people could forget he want to Andover and was a Legacy at Yale. Romney probably could have gone to Harvard if he'd been born poor, he's smart and ambitious, but the reality is that because of who his father is he could also have gone to Harvard if he was dull and lazy.

He's got a ****** back story, you need to just accept it and move on. He's a rich kid who had every advantage who happens to be smart and genuinely talented at capitalism. He may have gotten to the same places being born to a poor mother in Hope, AK. He wasn't though. He was born to a rich family, daddy gave him the money to start Bain, etc. Pretending he pulled himself up by his magic underpants doesn't do you or him any good.
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#44 Sep 06 2012 at 6:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kind of irrelevant, isn't it? I mean, both of them have paid for their education. At what time and what rate isn't really very significant, is it?


It's THE relevant fact in the discussion of which candidate's experience resonates with the lower/middle classes.

One could afford, or had a father who could afford, to pay for his education up front. One had to take on debt. How is that not relevant to the discussion?
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Kind of irrelevant, isn't it? I mean, both of them have paid for their education. At what time and what rate isn't really very significant, is it?


It's THE relevant fact in the discussion of which candidate's experience resonates with the lower/middle classes.

One could afford, or had a father who could afford, to pay for his education up front. One had to take on debt. How is that not relevant to the discussion?

Spending 10 years after college paying a mortgage or spending 10 years paying student loans and rent does basically the same thing for your personal equity, right?

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#46 Sep 06 2012 at 8:34 AM Rating: Good
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How is that not relevant to the discussion?
It's irrelevant because those details are counter-intuitive in their attempts to make Romney more relatable to the common drones.
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#47 Sep 06 2012 at 9:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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How to turn a 20-25 minute speech into a 50 minute speech.

Transcript of Clinton's prepared remarks with ad-libbed additions included in blue.
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#48 Sep 06 2012 at 9:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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So basically the speech-writing team is having severe anxiety about their job security this morning?
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#49 Sep 06 2012 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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How to turn a 20-25 minute speech into a 50 minute speech.

Transcript of Clinton's prepared remarks with ad-libbed additions included in blue.


Interesting stuff. Thanks for the link.
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So basically the speech-writing team is having severe anxiety about their job security this morning?

Nah, contrary to common belief, no one just reads verbatim off prompter. Clinton, obviously is towards the social genius side of the scale at adding content based on audience reaction, and Biden towards the social idiot side of the scale, but they all ad lib.
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That tickled me somewhat.

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