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#1 Aug 27 2012 at 10:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Anyone see this? Link

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Denial of evolution is unique to the United States. I mean, we're the world's most advanced technological—I mean, you could say Japan—but generally, the United States is where most of the innovations still happens. People still move to the United States. And that's largely because of the intellectual capital we have, the general understanding of science. When you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in that, it holds everybody back, really.

Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology. It's like, it's very much analogous to trying to do geology without believing in tectonic plates. You're just not going to get the right answer. Your whole world is just going to be a mystery instead of an exciting place.

As my old professor, Carl Sagan, said, "When you're in love you want to tell the world." So, once in a while I get people that really—or that claim—they don't believe in evolution. And my response generally is "Well, why not? Really, why not?" Your world just becomes fantastically complicated when you don't believe in evolution. I mean, here are these ancient dinosaur bones or fossils, here is radioactivity, here are distant stars that are just like our star but they're at a different point in their lifecycle. The idea of deep time, of this billions of years, explains so much of the world around us. If you try to ignore that, your world view just becomes crazy, just untenable, itself inconsistent.

And I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, in your world that's completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that's fine, but don't make your kids do it because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need people that can—we need engineers that can build stuff, solve problems.

It's just really hard a thing, it's really a hard thing. You know, in another couple of centuries that world view, I'm sure, will be, it just won't exist. There's no evidence for it.


I miss Bill Nye The Science Guy, loved that show.
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#2 Aug 27 2012 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, evidence is pretty antithesis to faith.

Bill Nye and Beakman's World were the only people/shows that really made science interesting to me.

Edited, Aug 27th 2012 12:51pm by lolgaxe
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#3 Aug 27 2012 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Bill Nye and Beakman's World were the only people/shows that really made science interesting to me.


Even before Bill Nye, I watched Mr. Wizard's World. I can honestly say that single show that put me on a path to intellectual curiosity.


Edited, Aug 27th 2012 12:28pm by BrownDuck
#4 Aug 27 2012 at 11:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can honestly say that single show that put me on a path to intellectual curiosity.
Which one lead you away from it?
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#5 Aug 27 2012 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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I was going to make a thread for it, but looks like Houston schools ban Fake Science. I think this will be a good step in their efforts to keep people from generally mocking education in Texas.
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#6 Aug 27 2012 at 1:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ah, banning books. This has been proven a successful and American tradition.
#7 Aug 27 2012 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
I could see not wanting teachers to spend their (already limited) classroom funds on a "fake" science textbook, but why not let a teacher purchase it with his or her own money to have on the classroom shelf for check out? The article gives the impression that it's straight up banned from classrooms.
#8 Aug 27 2012 at 2:07 PM Rating: Good
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I could see not wanting teachers to spend their (already limited) classroom funds on a "fake" science textbook, but why not let a teacher purchase it with his or her own money to have on the classroom shelf for check out? The article gives the impression that it's straight up banned from classrooms.

Yeah, if they decided not to purchase nine thousand to use as a classroom science textbook, no big deal. If they're actually trying to ban the book from schools - ie libraries, reference literature etc, that would sit less well with me.

Epcot has a ride about energy, it's just a movie really but the seats move some and fake dinosaurs spit on you. The movie stars Ellen DeGeneres and Bill Nye It's one of my favorite attractions. Ellen and Bill make a good comedy duo.
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#9 Aug 27 2012 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
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Bill Nye did an AMA on Reddit about a month ago. It was pretty neat.
#10 Aug 27 2012 at 2:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/x9pq0/iam_bill_nye_the_science_guy_ama/
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#11 Aug 27 2012 at 5:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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lolgaxe wrote:
I was going to make a thread for it, but looks like Houston schools ban Fake Science. I think this will be a good step in their efforts to keep people from generally mocking education in Texas.



From the article:

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This book is not permissable for you to distribute or your students to have.


So, wait. Students are forbidden to have this book? I would so have this book if I were a student in a Houston school. By tomorrow if possible.
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#12 Aug 27 2012 at 5:54 PM Rating: Good
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This book is not permissable for you to distribute or your students to have.


So, wait. Students are forbidden to have this book? I would so have this book if I were a student in a Houston school. By tomorrow if possible.

Ditto.
#13Demea, Posted: Aug 27 2012 at 6:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Good to know that Mr. Nye is here to defend evolution from... who, exactly?
#14 Aug 27 2012 at 6:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good to know that Mr. Nye is here to defend evolution from... who, exactly?

Idiots on school boards.
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Also, people who completely discount the possibility of intelligent design and accept evolution as The One And Only Truth are operating on just as much faith as the bible-thumpers.

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You may now discuss for 20 pages.

No need.
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#15 Aug 27 2012 at 6:05 PM Rating: Good
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Also, people who completely discount the possibility of intelligent design and accept evolution as The One And Only Truth are operating on just as much faith as the bible-thumpers.

Nonsense.

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Discuss for twenty pages.
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#17 Aug 27 2012 at 6:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Demea wrote:
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Discuss for twenty pages.

I've been following this topic for 20 threads now...
#18 Aug 27 2012 at 6:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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The o is clearly backwards.
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#19 Aug 27 2012 at 9:06 PM Rating: Good
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The o is clearly backwards.


Wrong, it's upside down. Obviously.
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#20 Aug 28 2012 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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What's keeping the "U" from tipping over?
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#21 Aug 28 2012 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
The o is clearly backwards.
Wrong, it's upside down. Obviously.
Figures your liberal bias would see it in the wrong direction.
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#22 Aug 28 2012 at 5:33 PM Rating: Default
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Demea wrote:
Good to know that Mr. Nye is here to defend evolution from... who, exactly?


From those scary religious folks who apparently want to force everyone to believe in the 7 days biblical account and reject evolution. Of course, it's hard to find enough of those scary religious folks actually doing anything with regard to this issue, so defenders of evolution have to periodically bring up the issue themselves just to make sure that no one forgets to be very very afraid of those people and the party they tend to vote for (that's the GOP in case you missed it). Never mind that nothing new has happened here. It's an election year, so we've got to make sure the people are scared. How scared you ask? Well, scared enough to ignore the very real problems going on with the economy, foreign policy, illegal gun walking schemes, and attendant cover ups in order to vote against the party associated with such scary stuff at a national level (cause school districts are directly run by the federal government!).


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It's true. Bill Nye has started talking about science for the first time ever and it was to distract the American people from illegal gun walking schemes.


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#24 Aug 28 2012 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good
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Very considerate of him to start distracting us from all that scary stuff two decades ago.
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#25 Aug 28 2012 at 6:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Demea wrote:
Good to know that Mr. Nye is here to defend evolution from... who, exactly?


From those scary religious folks who apparently want to force everyone to believe in the 7 days biblical account and reject evolution. Of course, it's hard to find enough of those scary religious folks actually doing anything with regard to this issue, so defenders of evolution have to periodically bring up the issue themselves just to make sure that no one forgets to be very very afraid of those people and the party they tend to vote for (that's the GOP in case you missed it).

Fixed that for you. Yeah, there's definitely no one attempting to introduce creationism into schools. Except, y'know, all those folks who do exactly that.

Gotta give Romney credit though. He's the only GOP presidential candidate who said he believes in the theory of evolution.

Edited, Aug 28th 2012 8:35pm by LockeColeMA
#26 Aug 28 2012 at 6:36 PM Rating: Default
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It's true. Bill Nye has started talking about science for the first time ever and it was to distract the American people from illegal gun walking schemes.


And yet, this video and transcript appears online so that people can link to it and create threads about it just this week. Shocking!
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