Alma wrote:
I don't know how else to say it. Your level of maturity at 17 years, 11 months, 30 days, 23 hours, 59 mins and 59 seconds is the same level of maturity at 18 years old. If a person is mature enough to make adult decisions at 18, then it more than likely happened during a transition period much earlier than or much later than their 18th birthday, but NOT on their 18th birthday
Cool story, bro. That doesn't change the fact that by the age of 18, most people are mature enough both physically & emotionally to make adult decisions & consent to sex, though.
Alma wrote:
You just said that you would test them. Now you're saying that it isn't "easy"? Of course it's easy. Churches do it. Not only that, the government tests the validity of international marriages. Sit the couple down and ask them a few questions about their plans, themselves and each other.
How do churches test for maturity, exactly?
Alma wrote:
You keep saying "protect" the children, but you have yet answered how the age of a partner affects an already sexually active scarred or not scarred teenager.
The age of the partner is irrelevant if the 15 year old or her parents are able to consent, wherever this hypothetical example may be.
Alma wrote:
If that's your answer, then you don't care about the ages of the party and do not support laws that punish certain age combinations more than others
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I sure do, champ! Alma logic only applies to Alma arguments.
Alma wrote:
Those laws protect the mental ill, not children
Retarded folks aren't mentally ill, insane people are mentally ill. If you legally are 18 & "have the mind of a child" you would be unable to consent to sex without parental consent.
Alma wrote:
I'm sorry if you think mental ill people and children are the same.
Your retardedness is adorable sometimes,
Alma wrote:
Then again, you also make homosexual comparisons to the Civil Rights movement, so it's obvious that you're confused.
Not even in the slightest.
Alma wrote:
Of course we know it's illegal. Just like SSM isn't recognized in most states.
I'm ok with a law the protects a segment of society from harm even if it infringes on some people's rights to **** children. I do not know how preventing gays from marrying prevents anyone from harm. Please explain.
Alma wrote:
How is this harm any different than the immature 15 year old having sex with another 15 year old WITH OUT THEIR PARENTAL consent or approval.
A 15 year old too immature to consent to sex would be harmed in either scenario. However, only one scenario has that 15 year old being harmed by an adult who's legally able to make adult decisions. That still remains the difference.
Alma wrote:
So why do you have a problem with someone thinking homosexuality is "weird" aka "wrong".
I don't unless their reasoning for finding it "weird" or "wrong" is bigoted.
The 14th Amendment wrote:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law, which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Sure seems to be that gays are covered by this, as well as blacks.