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I've been asking you for a consistent answer on how and why are these girls harmed any differently with an adult than any other child.
And I've consistently told you there is
no difference if the girl is old/mature enough to consent (with parental approval where applicable). If she isn't mature/ old enough to consent, she's being taken advantage of by an adult whom
is old/mature enough to know right from wrong or by another child whom
isn't old/mature enough to know right from wrong. That's the difference.
Alma wrote:
You say that you support these relationships as long as that there are consent from the parents.
I'm saying I could. The only one that comes to mind is Courtney Stodden, I thought that one was odd. Dude is creepy (He may have been the 2nd creepiest thing on the X-Files, right after the inbred family), but I'm not going to fight to overturn all the parental consent laws in this country because I think their relationship is weird. I don't actually know them, I just know she's...transformed since her marriage.
Alma wrote:
You also say that consent doesn't equal maturity,
No, I'm telling you a sexually active 15 year old who wants you to f
uck her isn't necessarily emotionally mature enough to legally consent, hence why we settle on an age of consent &/or parental consent to make those calls legal or not.
Alma wrote:
How can you measure "maturity" and consent?
Legally, by age or in the case of minors, by their parents judgement.
Alma wrote:
Are you proposing that the laws switch to measuring maturity for everyone or just maturity for minors?
No.
Alma wrote:
If the latter, then why go through the trouble if you're going to let immature 18 year olds get taken advantage of?
Do you not care about them?
Immature 18 year olds already have laws that protect them. Guess what happens if you @#%^ an 18 year old with the mind of a child?
Alma wrote:
Why do you care about consent if you said yourself that consent doesn't equal maturity? You say "depending on how young", please define that. What's the cut off? What's the ratio for young and consent?
I'm comfortable with most current laws regarding age of consent in regards to sex. I'm also comfortable with parental consent for minors as young as 15, but would like some sort of psychological exam be done & passed by both parties.
Alma wrote:
The civil rights movement wasn't a movement to make people like Black Americans. You do know that right?
The gay rights movement isn't to make people like Gay America. You do know that, right?
Alma wrote:
You also do realize that child lovers, bestiality, etc. are equally encouraged due to the whole gay rights movement in the same way right?
Nope. Gay Marriage is just about the last bastion left over from the Civil Rights era. Gay Rights are Civil Rights. Black people used to get arrested for @#%^ing white people, gay people used to get arrested for @#%^ing gay people. Neither are enforced anymore, but only one group still can't legally marry in some places.
There may child lovers, bestiality, etc. inspired by the gay rights movement but I'd argue they were just as inspired by the Civil Rights movement. Difference is neither of the two have made any gains by the Civil Rights movement, let alone the Gay Rights movement, & furthermore both were used as boogeyman by the opposition to both the Civil Rights & Gay RIghts movements.
Alma wrote:
The same way you would disagree with any other lifestyle. Homosexuality isn't any different.
Homosexuality happens whether you agree with it or not. I do wonder what it is that you don't approve of about it, though.
Alma wrote:
If I had a female friend or relative who was born promiscuous, I wouldn't agree with that either.
Sluts aren't always born that way. (I'd argue neither are gays, either, but thats another discussion.)
Alma wrote:
I don't know why you fight for equality but want special treatment.
Separate but equal, as it applies to Marriage Equality, isn't equal you cowardly ******.
Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 12:49am by Omegavegeta