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#52 Aug 16 2012 at 5:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm going to guess that this forum is not filled with Type A perfectionists.
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#53 Aug 16 2012 at 5:36 PM Rating: Default
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I think this question was asked already. I'm still waiting to hear what it all means....

I would surmise that over-the-toppers are probably type 1 perfectionists. Under-and-down are likely get it done quickly and efficiently types. Those that don't bother with putting it on the holder at all are unambitious potheads.


I'd think that the appeal of over the top is that the end of the roll is always visible. I see that group as being more about efficiently using the roll with a minimum amount of time spent finding the end. Most of the arguments for under and down I've seen are about aesthetics. The end of the roll isn't visible, so it looks neater. Also means you get to sit their spinning the roll hoping an end will appear, but that's the price of a beautiful bathroom experience. To be fair, I've also heard the whole "my cat plays with the end if it's visible" argument for under and down users.


Agree completely on the slackers who just toss the roll nearby. I have some friends who do this and it drives me nuts. It's like there's a perfectly good holder right there. Why is the roll always in some random spot on a counter nearby? It's not like the 5 seconds it takes to put it on the holder is that much more of an effort after you've already gotten the roll out in the first place.


Oh. There is one case in which I'll always argue that over the top is better (and also makes me wonder what people are thinking sometimes): Those holders where the rolls are recessed inside a box of some kind (more common in public bathrooms) with an actual space inside the box beneath where the roll is. If you roll it under and behind, the end will roll out and into the bottom of the box if you roll it the wrong way. Even if you roll it correctly, you can't over roll it, or it'll fall into the box (and you'll have to roll it around again and grab at the end as it comes by). Silly design to begin with, but really silly if you put the paper in that way.
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By "not filled with", I hope I didn't imply there's not any...
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#55 Aug 17 2012 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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I set mine on the bathroom counter next to the toilet, since I am too lazy to bother with the TP dispenser.

I learned to be an over the top guy (when it actually is on the dispenser) from my parents. However, there are a number of relatives who flip their TP and have it come out from the bottom. When I asked 'why?' to a few of them over the years, the answer that I usually got was that they did that because of their pets. If they put the TP over the top, then the cats or whatnot would unravel the roll if they were playing with it. By keeping it coming out from the bottom, the TP would never unravel.
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#56 Aug 17 2012 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going to guess that this forum is not filled with Type A perfectionists.
Perfectionism is a personality type that has someone striving for flawlessness and setting exceedingly high standards for themselves. I can't be because it all just comes naturally.
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#57 Aug 18 2012 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
I had to vote for the either/or option...since ours is one of the vertical ones...so it's more of a "do you want it facing towards you, or away from you" ordeal. If mom changes it... well wait she doesn't, she just takes the roll out and sets it on the counter, leaving me to change the roll itself...which I generally always put facing towards me (I guess in a horizontal case that would be over the top then). I really have never cared though.
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#58 Aug 18 2012 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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I find it all depends on where the roll is compared to the throne. If its to the right, I prefer the under set-up. If it is to the left and I have to reach cross-body, it goes over the top.
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I find it all depends on where the roll is compared to the throne. If its to the right, I prefer the under set-up. If it is to the left and I have to reach cross-body, it goes over the top.

What if it's left on the toilet tank? I always find that a ridiculous situation; how the **** am I supposed to reach that, let alone realize it's there, and who the **** would leave it there?
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let alone realize it's there
Do you walk into the bathroom backwards?
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#61 Aug 18 2012 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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It shouldn't be necessary to evaluate and prepare materiel before the act of pooping. The TP should be within sight and within reach of a sitting position. Unless you happen to be co-habitating with a sadistic wench, or a mischievous four year old. Alas, I yearn for a return to a simpler life.
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Debalic wrote:
It shouldn't be necessary to evaluate and prepare materiel before the act of pooping. The TP should be within sight and within reach of a sitting position. Unless you happen to be co-habitating with a sadistic wench, or a mischievous four year old. Alas, I yearn for a return to a simpler life.


In my house, the only time the TP has been on the back of the toilet is when my husband has put it there instead of putting it on the roll where it belongs.
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It shouldn't be necessary to evaluate and prepare materiel before the act of pooping.
The **** it shouldn't. The last thing you want to have happen is there not be enough TP left on the roll to clean yourself up. Waddling around a bathroom with your pants at your ankles looking for more TP is simply unacceptable.
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#64 Aug 19 2012 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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Debalic wrote:
It shouldn't be necessary to evaluate and prepare materiel before the act of pooping.
Before dropping trou', I know the location of the current roll as well as backup rolls, regardless of how much tissue I expect to need. Always be prepared.
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Waddling around a bathroom with your pants at your ankles looking for more TP is simply unacceptable.


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Waddling around a bathroom with your pants at your ankles looking for more TP is simply unacceptable.

With a name like that, what has been visualized cannot be unvisualized! Messin' with Sasquatch, indeed.

My new apartment bathroom came with the holder mounted to the vanity on the left side of the toilet. Close to the toilet. As in, you could use it as an armrest close. I had to remove it. I'm left handed. Awkward! The roll now sits on the edge of the vanity.
#67 Aug 19 2012 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
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We do keep the pack of toilet paper in the bathroom nearby; I just don't relish the idea of opening a new roll every time I go.
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Zam is educational. Before this thread, I was under the impression that only women didn't look before sitting.
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#69 Aug 20 2012 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
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Alas, I yearn for a return to a simpler life.

Dig a hole and squat.
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Spoonless wrote:
Debalic wrote:
It shouldn't be necessary to evaluate and prepare materiel before the act of pooping.
Before dropping trou', I know the location of the current roll as well as backup rolls, regardless of how much tissue I expect to need. Always be prepared.


This x1000! Something I got in the habit of doing is using a bit of toilet paper to wipe down the seat before using it (doubly so for a public toilet). This avoids the concern of sitting in someone else's pee drops *and* ensures that you've checked that there's sufficient TP for your needs.
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gbaji wrote:
This x1000! Something I got in the habit of doing is using a bit of toilet paper to wipe down the seat before using it (doubly so for a public toilet). This avoids the concern of sitting in someone else's pee drops *and* ensures that you've checked that there's sufficient TP for your needs.


How many other people use your toilet...?
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I was going to say something about toilet seats and menstrual blood smears, but it might be TMI for our wilting boys.
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#73 Aug 21 2012 at 6:42 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:

This x1000! Something I got in the habit of doing is using a bit of toilet paper to wipe down the seat before using it (doubly so for a public toilet).
What a thoughtful habit.



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Alas, I yearn for a return to a simpler life.
Dig a hole and squat.
You could instead buy one of these to simulate that feeling without having to dig a hole.
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I was going to say something about toilet seats and menstrual blood smears, but it might be TMI for our wilting boys.
I was low on the totem pole, so I've seen what kind of mess women can make in a latrine.
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#76 Aug 21 2012 at 8:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Having worked in retail and having seen the bathrooms, chicks are fuckin' gross, man.

Edited, Aug 21st 2012 9:14am by Jophiel
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Having worked in retail and having seen the bathrooms, chicks are fuckin' gross, man.

Edited, Aug 21st 2012 9:14am by Jophiel
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Yeah, lipstick all over the stall.
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#79 Aug 22 2012 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Debalic wrote:
It shouldn't be necessary to evaluate and prepare materiel before the act of pooping.
Before dropping trou', I know the location of the current roll as well as backup rolls, regardless of how much tissue I expect to need. Always be prepared.

This x1000! Something I got in the habit of doing is using a bit of toilet paper to wipe down the seat before using it (doubly so for a public toilet). This avoids the concern of sitting in someone else's pee drops *and* ensures that you've checked that there's sufficient TP for your needs.


Wait, people don't do this? Even if I was the last one who used the toilet I do this. No toilet seat is infallible to splashing. On the topic of which way the roll faces.. I can deal with either or. If I'm the one putting it on though it always goes over the top. I have switched it from under to over on occasions when it was annoying me and touching the wall though.

Also, it feels like I'm the only one in the house who properly uses the toilet seats. Our toilet has the seat thingy, and then the cover. It's easy to move them separately or at the same time. I always put both of them down whenever I'm done with either deed, but I commonly enter the bathroom to find the cover up and the seat down.

Also also, what is wrong with people whose dispenser is far enough away from the toilet that you have to make an active effort to get tp off it? I remember in my younger years I actually had to lean just to reach the dispenser in my friend's bathroom. And don't get me started on toilets that are way too high, it's all too common in public toilets nowadays. Those things are supposed to be low. Humans are build to **** while squatting, not while sitting with their toes barely reaching the floor.

Edited, Aug 22nd 2012 5:48pm by Deadgye
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[quote=DeadgyeAlso, it feels like I'm the only one in the house who properly uses the toilet seats. Our toilet has the seat thingy, and then the cover. It's easy to move them separately or at the same time. I always put both of them down whenever I'm done with either deed, but I commonly enter the bathroom to find the cover up and the seat down. [/quote]
My wife goes to extreme lengths to ***** at me for leaving the toilet seat up (which I do maybe once a year) but every month she leaves the toilet cover up with her bloody mess left in it.

And no, I don't need a $35 stepstool just to squat on the toilet. We use an upside-down Duplo bucket for that.
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#81 Aug 22 2012 at 3:59 PM Rating: Good
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And don't get me started on toilets that are way too high, it's all too common in public toilets nowadays. Those things are supposed to be low. Humans are build to **** while squatting, not while sitting with their toes barely reaching the floor.


You're just really short. I'm only 6 foot tall and have one of the higher toilets at my home, don't have any problems... I actually don't like the really low ones where it feels like my knees are up to my chest.

I also don't lower the toilet seat cover unless I'm cleaning it. It is almost always in the up position. Being that I'm a single male, my toilet seat is also usually in the up position as well.
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You're just really short. I'm only 6 foot tall and have one of the higher toilets at my home, don't have any problems... I actually don't like the really low ones where it feels like my knees are up to my chest.

I'm probably around 5'11 iirc. You apparently haven't used some of the public toilets that I have. And regardless of whether you may like or not, your body sh*ts better when it's in a position for sh*tting, instead of a position for sitting.

Edited, Aug 22nd 2012 7:18pm by Deadgye
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