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#1 Aug 10 2012 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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My OG Droid is finally starting to wear out (overheating, force-closes, unresponsiveness). So I'm in the market for a new phone. Maybe a new carrier too, if I can swing it until next March when the fiancee's contract is up.

I've been looking at some Windows phones. Android was great when my phone was my only option for apps and games, but I've got a rooted Kindle Fire now that's much more suited for those tasks. Now I mostly just want a phone that can do phone/internet/messaging/media/email quickly. I like the Windows Phone interface a lot, and they seem like they have good built-in systems for the stuff I need after the 7.5 update.

Anyone have any experience with them?

I gather that Windows Phone 8 is coming out soon, and I'm wondering if it might be worth waiting for. As is, neither Verizon (my current provider) or Sprint (the one I'm eyeing) carry more than a single Windows Phone (the HTC Trophy and Arrive, respectively).

Both seem a little dated. The Lumia 900 seems like it's more my angle, but apparently it won't be compatible with the new OS. I have to think that some new phones will crop up for Verizon or Sprint when the OS launches, but I wonder about the costs.

Feel free to use this thread to talk about your current phone situation, model, provider, etc. I haven't been paying for my own phones very long, so I'm collecting info.
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#2 Aug 10 2012 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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Afraid I can't offer any input, haven't had a Windows phone for about 5 years. I just got the new Droid Razr Maxx about 2 months ago. It's pretty cool, but large (thin, but it's got a big screen). It's my first real smartphone, as I was a hold out for quite a while. The irritating thing is after I did a recent update it forced that timeline crap on my Facebook account, which I had been studiously avoiding since it came out as I hate it.

I don't have any major complaints with the phone, the battery is pretty decent, it can last two days with my usage but that's pushing it.
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#3 Aug 10 2012 at 8:52 AM Rating: Good
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I dont have any technical info, but the husband has a windows phone and he loves it.
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It's pretty cool, but large (thin, but it's got a big screen).

It's funny to think of maybe five years ago when the jokes were all about how tiny phones would be and we'd be inhaling them or opening them with tweezers and losing them in the carpeting, etc.

My current phone barely fits comfortably in my pocket. Sure, it's no 1993 brick phone but it's larger than my old flip phone. Admittedly it does a lot more as well but I guess I'm safe from crawling around on my hands and knees in the lawn, looking for where I dropped it.
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#5 Aug 10 2012 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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See, I'd rather have a larger phone, for the screen size. IIRC, the OG Droid was pretty large compared to other smartphones at the time, but now I find it to be kinda tiny and cramped.
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It's pretty cool, but large (thin, but it's got a big screen).

It's funny to think of maybe five years ago when the jokes were all about how tiny phones would be and we'd be inhaling them or opening them with tweezers and losing them in the carpeting, etc.

My current phone barely fits comfortably in my pocket. Sure, it's no 1993 brick phone but it's larger than my old flip phone. Admittedly it does a lot more as well but I guess I'm safe from crawling around on my hands and knees in the lawn, looking for where I dropped it.


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#7 Aug 10 2012 at 9:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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I dont have any technical info, but the husband has a windows phone and he loves it.

My husband used to have a Windows phone and he really liked it. He's got a Galaxy S II right now, because I won it, haha. My next phone will probably be a Windows phone. I don't get all the hype around Android. I like that it syncs with my Google stuff nicely, but that's about it.
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The hype around Android is that it's not iOS. That's pretty much it. It does what it's supposed to do and has a well stocked app environment but the main draw is that you're not doing the Apple thing with all that entails. It's the best available alternative to iOS.
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I honestly hate that BlackBerry is failing. I loved my BB Torch. And I miss it. I use Android because like you said, it's pretty much the only alternative right now. But Windows phones are getting more acceptance, more apps, etc., so I'm really hoping that I can find one I like when I get my next phone.
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Jophiel wrote:
The hype around Android is that it's not iOS. That's pretty much it. It does what it's supposed to do and has a well stocked app environment but the main draw is that you're not doing the Apple thing with all that entails. It's the best available alternative to iOS.


Android's UI sluggishness is a major downer though.
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I haven't noticed it, or else haven't been annoyed enough by it to care. Supposedly Jellybean runs a lot faster and smoother though.
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#12 Aug 10 2012 at 10:35 AM Rating: Excellent
Most of the time when someone is complaining about android being sluggish it's because the manufacturer used a stupid filesystem, and not because of android.
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#13 Aug 10 2012 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't noticed it, or else haven't been annoyed enough by it to care. Supposedly Jellybean runs a lot faster and smoother though.


Android's nice and snappy on my Kindle Fire (CyanogenMod 9), and sluggish and glitchy on my Droid (Stock/MIUI). They're both on ICS now, and I'm inclined to blame aging hardware for the phone's troubles.

Haven't tried Jellybean yet, myself.
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I have CyanogenMod 9 on my Touchpad and it's responsive enough for me not to notice otherwise. My Galaxy S II has ICS on it and it works fine. Maybe I'd be blown away if I spent a week with an iPhone and iPad and never want to go back but, as is, they work just fine in my opinion.
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Most of the time when someone is complaining about android being sluggish it's because the manufacturer used a stupid filesystem, and not because of android.


Not quite.
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Huh. It cites the S II as doing a good job staying smooth while rendering and my Touchpad has a fairly beefy 1.7 GHz (overclocked) dual core processor so maybe that's why it seems to run okay as well.
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Most of the time when someone is complaining about android being sluggish it's because the manufacturer used a stupid filesystem, and not because of android.


Not quite.


I'm a bit confused by that...it made it seem like if you're actively touching your iPhone, it won't run tasks like loading a web page. Is that really the case? I'd be surprised if it was.

If so, that wouldn't really mean that Android was more sluggish. Just that Android tries to multitask while you're engaging it, whereas iPhone waits until your done before resuming the original task. In theory, that doesn't say anything about the time that either takes to accomplish said task.

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Most of the time when someone is complaining about android being sluggish it's because the manufacturer used a stupid filesystem, and not because of android.


Not quite.


I'm a bit confused by that...it made it seem like if you're actively touching your iPhone, it won't run tasks like loading a web page. Is that really the case? I'd be surprised if it was.

If so, that wouldn't really mean that Android was more sluggish. Just that Android tries to multitask while you're engaging it, whereas iPhone waits until your done before resuming the original task. In theory, that doesn't say anything about the time that either takes to accomplish said task.


Yeah, it's not about processing speed or performance. It's about responsiveness. A classic example on every android device I've ever used (single core CPU only, no experience with dual core android devices) is the jittery scrolling of the app drawer.

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Yeah, it's not about processing speed or performance. It's about responsiveness. A classic example on every android device I've ever used (single core CPU only, no experience with dual core android devices) is the jittery scrolling of the app drawer.


Gotcha. Guess I'd prefer it the iPhone way, but there are still other factors that make me lean towards other OS's.

I wonder how Windows Phones manage things in that regard.
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#21 Aug 10 2012 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, it's not about processing speed or performance. It's about responsiveness. A classic example on every android device I've ever used (single core CPU only, no experience with dual core android devices) is the jittery scrolling of the app drawer.


For the galaxy S at least, this is easily fixed by simply updating the file-system. I've heard this fixes it for multiple android phones.
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I bought my Droid 2 because it has a slide-out keyboard. I don't necessarily have anything against iPhones, but I do like the physical keyboard. I know there are cases that add that functionality to an iPhone, but I'd prefer to just buy a product with it already integrated.
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Eske Esquire wrote:
If so, that wouldn't really mean that Android was more sluggish. Just that Android tries to multitask while you're engaging it, whereas iPhone waits until your done before resuming the original task. In theory, that doesn't say anything about the time that either takes to accomplish said task.


Yup. And it's not so much of a negative as a trade off. Also, while the article talks about how difficult it would be for Android to change that behavior, the same applies to the iphone in the other direction. They can't undo the fact that their UI interrupts anything else going on with the phone (well, most things). Another way of looking at is is that the iphone is betting that hardware will always lag behind software, so its interrupt based interface will improve user experience and give it an edge. Android is betting that hardware will outpace software, so the interface will work fine (from the perspective of the user) and it wont interrupt what's going on in the background, giving it an edge.

Given the past development pattern of such things and the direction new development is going, I think that Android is going to win that bet over time.
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I used to be a diehard windows phone supporter back when it was windows mobile 6.5 and before, but their whole handling of the transition to 7 and beyond really sucked. That and their phones were all locked in at a lower hardware specification than the cheaper android phones, and not as easily modifiable. Android still has issues and there are things I dislike about my android handset even now, but compared to anything else that is out there at the moment Android on a dual processor phone still obliterates just about anything out there in terms of capability. The only thing the Ios ones have going for them is their connector seems to allow for some additional radio control device integration that really irks me that android doesn't do well.

Windows 8 is going to be a windows ME level catastrophe by the way. Windows phone 8 is supposedly going to mirror windows 8. This will be the first time in recent history I am not jumping on the early installer band wagon for a windows OS, so that should tell you something...
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According to Munn, this means Android’s user interface “will never be completely smooth” so long as user interface rendering takes place in the main thread of an app and rendering is only given “normal” priority.

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Munn says fixing the problem would require a rewrite involving every app in the Android Market, that there’d need to be a “legacy support mode” for older apps and that work on other Android features could be compromised by the focus on the rewrite “fix.”

This just sounds fishy to me. Not the cause, but fixing it. The guy they're quoting is only an ex-intern, and it's obvious that they're twisting his words to make it seem like fixing it would be next to impossible. Introducing new OS rendering functions that would run in a new priority thread should be almost as simple as copy pasting most of the old code. Figuring out which old functions should call the new rendering functions shouldn't be too hard as well.

Regardless, as devices get stronger and multicore processors for these small devices become more prevalent Androids way of rendering will age like Sean Connery while Apples will age like won't age well at all.

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