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#402 Sep 01 2012 at 6:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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After reading a bunch of articles about the speech, I finally got around to watching the whole thing and honestly, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Clint was stumbling a bit, and yeah, I guess he rambled on and all that, but it hardly seemed like something I would have even thought much of after the fact had I seen it live. It did come off unscripted and a bit silly, but he seemed to be going for laughs, not drama...it was light-hearted...I really don't understand why the media seems so "ohmygosh, he just lost the election for Romney!" about it. Did I get distracted and miss him saying Romney eats babies or something?

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#403 Sep 01 2012 at 8:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
Did I get distracted and miss him saying Romney eats babies or something?

Nexa

As a matter of fact...
#404 Sep 01 2012 at 8:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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I imagine seeing it live had more impact than seeing it after a bunch of stories hyping it up.
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#405 Sep 02 2012 at 1:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Muslim Obama! Homebrewing terrorism.... or beer?
I'm somewhat tempted to get a homebrewing kit and make the honey porter myself, not so much because it's the white house brew but because a honey porter sounds pretty damn good.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 9:19am by Aethien
#406 Sep 02 2012 at 6:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not so sure about having a beer with Obama. Have you ever had a beer with a brewing enthusiast? It's like talking religion with a new convert. Sheesh, shut up and let me drink my beer already.

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#407 Sep 02 2012 at 6:30 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure how authentic the whole 'beer enthusiast' thing is. Seems like political strategy paint by numbers...Romney doesn't drink, after all.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 8:31am by Eske
#408 Sep 02 2012 at 7:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Romney doesn't drink, after all.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 8:31am by Eske

Another reason not to vote for him. Smiley: boozing
#409 Sep 02 2012 at 8:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eske Esquire wrote:
I'm not sure how authentic the whole 'beer enthusiast' thing is. Seems like political strategy paint by numbers...Romney doesn't drink, after all.
I'm guessing it's part I like beer mixed with influence from Michelle for the homegrown part. Add to that that a homebrewing kit isn't exactly expensive for the president and that he's got a private chef to do the brewing for him and that's that.

It'd be a pretty poor political strategy although it doesn't hurt that it makes him a little more likeable compared to Romney.
#410 Sep 02 2012 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
I'm not sure how authentic the whole 'beer enthusiast' thing is. Seems like political strategy paint by numbers...Romney doesn't drink, after all.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 8:31am by Eske


Smiley: dubious Yeah, just election year rhetoric.
#411 Sep 02 2012 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
I'm not sure how authentic the whole 'beer enthusiast' thing is. Seems like political strategy paint by numbers...Romney doesn't drink, after all.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 8:31am by Eske


Smiley: dubious Yeah, just election year rhetoric.


I'm not sure whether that's intended to support my suggestion, or oppose it.
#412 Sep 02 2012 at 12:42 PM Rating: Good
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I just thought that beer always kind of was one of Obama's "things", like basketball, a genuine hobby that the media has been attracted to since the beginning. I don't think any of it was in anticipation of sober Romney. In fact, the article says he bought the homebrewing equipment last year.
#413 Sep 02 2012 at 1:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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On a sidenote, according to Michelle Bachmann, Obama is too wealthy to be able to connect to the American public and that's why you should vote for Romney.
#414 Sep 02 2012 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jesus Christ she looks like a Necromancer.
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#415 Sep 02 2012 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was the camera angle or if she looked especially gaunt.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 3:09pm by Guenny
#416 Sep 02 2012 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Guenny wrote:
I just thought that beer always kind of was one of Obama's "things", like basketball, a genuine hobby that the media has been attracted to since the beginning. I don't think any of it was in anticipation of sober Romney. In fact, the article says he bought the homebrewing equipment last year.


A very cursory google session seems to validate my supposition. I don't recall drinking being a very central aspect of his character during his first election run (this link says the same, though admittedly it doesn't offer any citation, save a quote where he appears to indirectly dismiss other candidates for drinking for the cameras). It also suggests that he doesn't seem to really drink many of the beers that he orders at press events.

The quotes, the photo ops, etc., all rings quite a bit false to me. But it's also completely trivial, so I've got no problem with it. Besides, maybe all the faking will cause him to acquire a taste for it. Smiley: tongue

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 5:06pm by Eske
#417 Sep 02 2012 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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Well, imagine the backlash if a President or Presidential candidate just openly talks about how they like drinking all the time.

Hell, I read some pretty stupid comments about that time he sat down with the officer and the Harvard professor over a beer commenting about how a man in his position shouldn't ever be drinking alcohol.
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#418 Sep 02 2012 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Only socialist Muslims brew beer!
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#419 Sep 02 2012 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, imagine the backlash if a President or Presidential candidate just openly talks about how they like drinking enjoy acting like normal people all the time.

#420 Sep 03 2012 at 12:14 AM Rating: Good
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Guenny wrote:
Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was the camera angle or if she looked especially gaunt.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 3:09pm by Guenny
They're shining a fairly strong light right into her face, that pretty much makes anyone look bad.
#421 Sep 03 2012 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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And more truly helpful support for Romney.

tl;dr: Coal mine owner gives republicans lots of money, Romney comes to visit, owner closes his mine, forces employees to attend and docks them a day of pay.
#422 Sep 03 2012 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
And more truly helpful support for Romney.

tl;dr: Coal mine owner gives republicans lots of money, Romney comes to visit, owner closes his mine, forces employees to attend and docks them a day of pay.



The sad part? Nothing about this is surprising in the least degree.
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#423 Sep 03 2012 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
And more truly helpful support for Romney.

tl;dr: Coal mine owner gives republicans lots of money, Romney comes to visit, owner closes his mine, forces employees to attend and docks them a day of pay.



The sad part? Nothing about this is surprising in the least degree.


I found this pretty sad too...
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Asked by WWVA radio’s Blomquist about the allegations on Monday’s show, Murray chief operating officer Robert Moore said: “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”


Smiley: dubious
#424 Sep 03 2012 at 8:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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#425 Sep 04 2012 at 2:41 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah thats the way to get your employees to vote for the guy you want.
#426 Sep 04 2012 at 5:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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