On topic: I heard the other day that Paul Ryan's high school civics teacher won't be voting for him. He said he was a smart kid, and the school is proud of how far he's gone, but he disagrees fundamentally on the direction Ryan wants to take the country.
That's all well and good, but it's not exactly noteworthy. I wouldn't expect anyone's pre-held political leanings to take a backseat to the fact that they once taught someone in high school.
I just thought it was amusing that his high school civics teacher is lamenting the fact that one of his students didn't listen to him and went the other way on the political spectrum.
Just goes to show that "liberal school indoctrination" doesn't work as well as the righties claim it does.
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Turin wrote:
(Zelduh)'s won the argument by going so far off the deep end that no one is willing to follow.
Not entirely the right thread I guess but Obama did an AMA on reddit, for those of you who haven't seen it yet.
Edit: Poop, missed the thread on it... I r blind like Bijou.
Or...bad at comprehension - like ThiefX
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On topic: I heard the other day that Paul Ryan's high school civics teacher won't be voting for him. He said he was a smart kid, and the school is proud of how far he's gone, but he disagrees fundamentally on the direction Ryan wants to take the country.
That's all well and good, but it's not exactly noteworthy. I wouldn't expect anyone's pre-held political leanings to take a backseat to the fact that they once taught someone in high school.
I just thought it was amusing that his high school civics teacher is lamenting the fact that one of his students didn't listen to him and went the other way on the political spectrum.
Just goes to show that "liberal school indoctrination" doesn't work as well as the righties claim it does.
Silly cat, that mostly occurs at the college level, where elitist professors convert hapless freshmen into their hippie communist mindset.
Damnit people have some consistency! Either you are for people choosing their own path or you are against it! Curious how gbaji will spin this one. Should be almost as hilarious.
If Clint Eastwood was tricked by Democrats to do that car commercial, I can only guess he was also tricked by Democrats to give that surreal, rambling speech at the GOP convention.
Edited, Aug 30th 2012 10:25pm by Jophiel
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Poor Clint. I hadn't realized that he was getting dementia.
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Poor Clint. I hadn't realized that he was getting dementia.
He has absolutely not aged well either.
That's not really fair. He did, for 30 or so years.
I suppose you're right. I'm just used to seeing him in the 90s and early 00's and he looked vastly different on that stage than I've seen him previously.
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gbaji wrote:
You guys keep tossing facts out there like they mean something.
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
The Governor's office almost immediately released a statement to ABC15 claiming that the endorsement was a mistake.
"Governor Brewer misspoke, obviously, and certainly isn't the first official to have done so amid the noise and chaos of a crowded convention hall or rally. It happens - even to newscasters and TV pros. Regardless, given the Governor's record of challenging President Obama, it's a stretch to think anyone would believe she's supporting his re-election. The Governor stands with Mitt Romney."
Either way, to me it looks like more evidence towards the whole "taking a dive" theory.
The Governor's office almost immediately released a statement to ABC15 claiming that the endorsement was a mistake.
"Governor Brewer misspoke, obviously, and certainly isn't the first official to have done so amid the noise and chaos of a crowded convention hall or rally. It happens - even to newscasters and TV pros. Regardless, given the Governor's record of challenging President Obama, it's a stretch to think anyone would believe she's supporting his re-election. The Governor stands with Mitt Romney."
Either way, to me it looks like more evidence towards the whole "taking a dive" theory.
Not much for GOP ads, but this one was pretty good:
Hits home on a lot of frustration that college graduates feel in trying to get a job. Then again, it's better for college graduates than those who only go to high school. Something that the GOP doesn't seem to want to mention (remember [link]Santorum calling Obama "a snob" for claiming Obama said he wants everyone to go to college?[/link]). Ah well, ignoring the "war on education," the stats say that though unemployment for graduates isn't good, it's about three times worse for those who skip college.
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For young high school graduates, the unemployment rate was 32.7 percent in 2010 and 31.1 percent over the last year (April 2011–March 2012), while the underemployment rate was 55.9 percent in 2010 and 54.0 percent over the last year. For young college graduates, the unemployment rate was 10.4 percent in 2010 and 9.4 percent over the last year, while the underemployment rate was 19.8 percent in 2010 and 19.1 percent over the last year.
And things do get better, as it's not mentioning that among those with high school degrees or less and over the age of 25, the unemployment rate is between 8.7 and 12.7%, while those with some college or a degree is between 4.1 and 7.1%.
Edited, Aug 31st 2012 12:27pm by LockeColeMA
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Yeah, it doesn't really resonate with me. I had no problem finding a job as a college graduate; all I had problems with was finding one that used my degree, and now that I'm going back for the master's that'll be a moot point.
The "underemployed" is a much bigger problem. We're supposed to be taking over for the boomer generation, but the @#%^ers won't retire because they're scared they won't have enough money due to the recession. So the middle aged folks don't get promoted, and thus we don't get a chance to get their jobs. The opportunity is failing to trickle down.
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Turin wrote:
(Zelduh)'s won the argument by going so far off the deep end that no one is willing to follow.
Well to be fair to the older generation, if you take out a 2nd mortgage to send your kid to college and then your house loses 35% of it's value, you probably can't afford to retire when you'd like to anymore.
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I saw that the other day and got bored staring at the bedroom by 1998 which dulled the impact of the rest of it. But I'm not the target audience either.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
That article says 30 million people watched last night. That would be about 10 million more than who watched Ryan's speech. Interesting.
Edited, Aug 31st 2012 11:47am by Jophiel
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Since Obama won the presidency, comedy has pretty much gone straight to hell as our Entertainment Overlords morphed into pathetic lapdogs to The State;
I kind of agree. There was a lot more to make fun of eight years before.
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I liked Clint's speech, just puttin that out there.
Edited, Aug 31st 2012 2:27pm by Timelordwho
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In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Sometimes the CNN comments section is worth reading in political articles, just for things like these:
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In other news, GOP Latinos celebrated being at the RNC by demanding each other's papers
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Meanwhile, the Log Cabin Republicans, a pro-GOP gay group, called for prayers to cure their affliction. Other members of the GOP were happy to help, addressing the group members as "abominations" "unclean" and "Hell-bound sinners"
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A speech from Mia Love, a black female mayor from Utah seeking a Congressional seat brought a standing ovation from the crowd. As a pro-life Mormon also fiercly against the Department of Education, Love managed to fill a niche much sought by the GOP: being offensive to women, blacks, and the educated all at once. Ironically, by filling all these minority roles she is the poster-child for everything the GOP says is wrong with affirmative action.
I'm a bad person for laughing
Edited, Aug 31st 2012 2:36pm by LockeColeMA
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I was refering to the -dot-com, not the vengeful wraith of Andrew Breitbart.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Yeah, it's weird seeing quotes as being "from Breitbart." Would rather see the author & website quoted together. There's not a lot of publications named after their now-deceased founder, especially when the entire publication was just an extension of his personality. Although, I guess there's not many publications named after their founder, period. Will "Breitbart" endure in the fashion of "Strunk & White?"
Yeah, it's weird seeing quotes as being "from Breitbart." Would rather see the author & website quoted together.
I suppose I could have said "Do you write for Breitbart.com?" but I thought common sense and context would prevail. That'll learn me
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Hey, I just prefer my winding political diatribes in a surrealist stream of conscience with a touch of visceral yearning flavor rather than the more traditionalist Kabuki ab irato.
I feel like I've gained something from it (if irrelevant to its message) rather than the stock platform depiction that has been thoroughly rehashed.
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If Clint Eastwood was tricked by Democrats to do that car commercial, I can only guess he was also tricked by Democrats to give that surreal, rambling speech at the GOP convention.
I missed his speech last night (contrary to popular belief, I don't actually sit at home glued to the screen watching stuff like this). But from the clips I've seen, that's the way the man talks. You have seen him give speeches and interviews sometime in the last decade or so, right? As to the content, again, I haven't seen the whole thing, but the "empty chair" bit was pretty darn funny. And right on target.
Hey, I just prefer my winding political diatribes in a surrealist stream of conscience with a touch of visceral yearning flavor rather than the more traditionalist Kabuki ab irato.
I feel like I've gained something from it (if irrelevant to its message) rather than the stock platform depiction that has been thoroughly rehashed.
ITT: Timelordwho experiences a strangely enjoyable feeling in his right hemisphere.
If Clint Eastwood was tricked by Democrats to do that car commercial, I can only guess he was also tricked by Democrats to give that surreal, rambling speech at the GOP convention.
I missed his speech last night (contrary to popular belief, I don't actually sit at home glued to the screen watching stuff like this). But from the clips I've seen, that's the way the man talks. You have seen him give speeches and interviews sometime in the last decade or so, right? As to the content, again, I haven't seen the whole thing, but the "empty chair" bit was pretty darn funny. And right on target.
You've only seen bits and pieces of it? Did you see it somewhere where they deliberately took it out of context, or did you decide to arbitrarily skip around and watch 2:16-3:45 and 5:33-6:07 on your own?
I'm actually happier with Gbaji thinking Eastwood did a stellar job than I would be if I convinced him otherwise.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Yeah, it's weird seeing quotes as being "from Breitbart." Would rather see the author & website quoted together.
I suppose I could have said "Do you write for Breitbart.com?" but I thought common sense and context would prevail. That'll learn me
I understood it, it just looks kinda weird. Like if you said "Huffington wrote" instead of "Huffpo wrote." I blame the lack of creativity in the website's name.
It was written at the huffington post. It was written at huffpo that '...' . It was written at breitbart.
The website cannot write anything, and that's not just a commentary on their editorial direction.
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You only needed to see the faces of Mrs Romney and Ryan to know that Clint had stepped off into lalaland.
The campaign was doing damage control before he was off the stage, saying that his appearance wasn't intended to be a speech but rather just something to... uh... fill time in an otherwise cramped and abbreviated schedule, I guess.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
I hope his new movie does well or we're going to get a ton of invisible Obama jokes.
Which movie is that? I know he was filming one about some scouting agent in Georgia, that was incidentally filmed in one of my favorite bars (The Globe.)
For the movie, they transformed it from an English style pub with grad students and professors and soccer fans over to a blues bar. I'm still scratching my head over that one.
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Turin wrote:
(Zelduh)'s won the argument by going so far off the deep end that no one is willing to follow.
For the movie, they transformed it from an English style pub with grad students and professors and soccer fans over to a blues bar. I'm still scratching my head over that one.
That's ... odd. Are there no suitable blues bars already in existence where you are?
For the movie, they transformed it from an English style pub with grad students and professors and soccer fans over to a blues bar. I'm still scratching my head over that one.
That's ... odd. Are there no suitable blues bars already in existence where you are?
Not really. It's all about the indie bands here, and most music venues reflect that. The Globe does have a stage, but it's on the second floor and surrounded by couches mostly.
Edit: Found it on their FB timeline, it was filmed back in March. Shut down the bar for several days. I suppose Eastwood or whoever picked the place liked the atmosphere; it's all gritty and pubby with dark wood furniture and a lovely copper bar, and the original windows from the 1940s when it was a department store flooding it with light during the day. (I think it was a house at one point too.)
Edited, Sep 1st 2012 5:15pm by catwho
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Turin wrote:
(Zelduh)'s won the argument by going so far off the deep end that no one is willing to follow.
I hope his new movie does well or we're going to get a ton of invisible Obama jokes.
Which movie is that? I know he was filming one about some scouting agent in Georgia, that was incidentally filmed in one of my favorite bars (The Globe.)
For the movie, they transformed it from an English style pub with grad students and professors and soccer fans over to a blues bar. I'm still scratching my head over that one.
Was it done in the fashion of the "Fever Pitch" remake, turning British soccer fans into Boston baseball fans?
Oh, and his movie is "Trouble with the curve" featuring Amy Adams as his daughter.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
I think Obama probably wins the "would rather have a beer with" poll this election cycle.
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