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#302 Aug 29 2012 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's a rarity I get any news from the TV anymore; it's always on Blue's Clues or Storage Wars.
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#303 Aug 29 2012 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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Does anyone actually watch either channel? Not as background noise but actually sit down, watch, and think about it?

Fox runs our local news at 10:00pm, where as the others don't air until 11:00pm. So sometimes I watch it. I didn't know MSNBC was a tv station - I thought it was just web news.
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#304 Aug 29 2012 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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The booted Maine delegates looked kind of funny with lobster-bearing clothespins on their noses. They didn't even plug their noses with them, they just clipped them on the nasal septum - Ouch.


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I haven't exactly kept up with these conventions...when exactly did they become FC Barcelona vs. Real Madrid?
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#305 Aug 29 2012 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Couldn't help myself... Smiley: rolleyes

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#306 Aug 29 2012 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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Couldn't help myself... Smiley: rolleyes

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#307 Aug 29 2012 at 4:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Random convention thoughts:

I was playing Alice: Madness Returns.

Flea switched the channel to Teen Mom.

But I was driving home when they were doing the state delegate calls. The guy from Illinois was ridiculously bad. "Imagine a cold day in January and Mitt Romney gets sworn in and then Marine One comes and takes the former president Barrack Obama and we carry him back home to Illinois!"

The crowd was pretty silent. I think they were confused on whether that was an applause line or not.


He'd have gotten big applause if he'd said "back to Kenya". The crowd didn't get the "back to Illinois" remark because none of them connected the dots between "Chicago politics" and Illinois. This is what happens when you train people to recognize only sound bites for 20 years or so.
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#308 Aug 29 2012 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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[quote]3) I think I like Ann more than Mitt.
You're supposed to like her more.

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#309 Aug 29 2012 at 5:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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CNN reports that two people were removed from the Republican National Convention yesterday after they threw nuts at an African-American CNN camera operator and said, "This is how we feed animals."

Stay classy, Republicans.

I'd be more worried if they let the two stay.
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#310gbaji, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 6:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Which is strange, given that they are vastly better on the economy. Your reaction is like laughing when someone says that Jupiter is vastly larger than Earth, or that Everest is vastly higher than Death Valley, or any other demonstrably true statement out there. So my initial assumption about why you laughed is basically true, right?
#311 Aug 29 2012 at 6:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Which is strange, given that they are vastly better on the economy.


You see, this is why nobody takes you seriously.
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#312ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 6:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The sad part here (other than petty little partisans like Joph who eat this sh*t up) is that Yahoo has been running this non story on their front page all day.
#313 Aug 29 2012 at 7:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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***** about the media, implication that the guys were a plant AND a tu quoque argument?

I hit the trifecta! Smiley: laugh
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#314ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 7:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Keep dancing petty little man.
#315 Aug 29 2012 at 7:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Awww.... now someone is pouty Smiley: frown
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#316 Aug 29 2012 at 7:43 PM Rating: Default
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gbaji wrote:
Which is strange, given that they are vastly better on the economy.


You see, this is why nobody takes you seriously.


Wow. That's almost as good as "I'm rubber, you're glue". Almost.
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#317 Aug 29 2012 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mitt Romney's presidential campaign toasted its top donors today aboard a 150-foot yacht flying the flag of the Cayman Islands, ABC News reports.

"The exclusive event, hosted by a Florida developer on his yacht 'Cracker Bay,' was one of a dozen exclusive events meant to nurture those who have raised more than $1 million for Romney's bid."

*Snrk*


I wonder how much money he's profiting off of his run for president. Regardless, it's official; he doesn't care about winning anymore. It is, just like everything else he's ever done, a means to more money.
#318 Aug 29 2012 at 8:08 PM Rating: Default
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***** about the media, implication that the guys were a plant AND a tu quoque argument?


He's not arguing that what the two people did and said is ok because a Yahoo reporter did something equally bad. He's saying that the Yahoo coverage of the event is biased, and uses what the reporter did as evidence of that. But other than that, great analysis!
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#319 Aug 29 2012 at 8:16 PM Rating: Good
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But other than that, great analysis!
It is quite the coincidence that the only two people at the whole convention that weren't under 24/7 video surveillance acted up.
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#320 Aug 29 2012 at 8:21 PM Rating: Default
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Mitt Romney's presidential campaign toasted its top donors today aboard a 150-foot yacht flying the flag of the Cayman Islands, ABC News reports.

"The exclusive event, hosted by a Florida developer on his yacht 'Cracker Bay,' was one of a dozen exclusive events meant to nurture those who have raised more than $1 million for Romney's bid."

*Snrk*


I wonder how much money he's profiting off of his run for president. Regardless, it's official; he doesn't care about winning anymore. It is, just like everything else he's ever done, a means to more money.


Not even sure where to start with that. I'll just say that you apparently have no understanding of how campaign funding works and leave it at that. The only thing unusual about this is that anyone is reporting on it as though it's unusual.

Edited, Aug 29th 2012 7:31pm by gbaji
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#321 Aug 29 2012 at 8:29 PM Rating: Default
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But other than that, great analysis!
It is quite the coincidence that the only two people at the whole convention that weren't under 24/7 video surveillance acted up.


Not sure what you're trying to say, but presumably someone (a fair number of someone's) knows who the two were. Assuming it happened inside the event itself, then they had to have invites and badges. So either the location is being misstated and it was just two random people milling about nearby *or* the identities of the two people are known. I'm going to assume that the longer it takes for those identities (and their relationship to the party/ticket) to be revealed to the public the more likely it is that they have little or no relationship.

I'm admittedly leading the horse here, but assuming the media has much more interest in revealing to the public that they are on someone's staff, or an elected official, or a speaker, than discovering that it was a couple people on the cleaning staff, or working for another media outlet, or other non-GOP attendees, I'd expect them to rush to get that information in front of the public if it's the former, but ignore it or wait a few days to maximize the ability for the public (and secondary media) to leap to assumptions before revealing said non-information on their corrections page or something in the case of the latter. I'm admittedly cynical about stuff like this, but it's hardly the first time something like this has happened, resulting in tons of speculation blaming the GOP and/or conservatives, only for us to find out days later that it was something completely different. Of course, by that time, the damage is done. Everyone remembers the big story when it's blasted out on headlines and news alerts. Almost no one remembers when the details come out a few days later in small print.

Edited, Aug 29th 2012 7:33pm by gbaji
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#322ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 9:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hey Joph you know that the Cayman Islands don't have their own flag don't you? (sure you do... You just forgot to mention it...)
#323 Aug 29 2012 at 9:28 PM Rating: Good
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Hey Joph you know that the Cayman Islands don't have their own flag don't you?

Who told you this?
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#324 Aug 29 2012 at 9:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Everyone remembers the big story when it's blasted out on headlines and news alerts.
How desperate are you to consider that a big story?
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Hey Joph you know that the Cayman Islands don't have their own flag don't you? (sure you do... You just forgot to mention it...)
You mean besides the blue one with the Union Jack in the upper corner and the Cayman Island Coat of Arms off center?

Edited, Aug 29th 2012 11:31pm by lolgaxe
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#325ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 9:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And does it look this this?
#326 Aug 29 2012 at 9:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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That doesn't make your hilariously obvious error disappear, sunshine.
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#327ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 9:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The Cayman island "flag" is a simple variation of the red ensign (there are several "countries" that fly that flag with only simple differences) and it is almost always referred to as the red ensign or Union Jack not the Cayman Island flag (unless your ABC news or a petty little partisan)
#328 Aug 29 2012 at 10:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusX wrote:
The Cayman island "flag" is a simple variation of the red ensign
Except the part where it's a simple variation of the blue ensign, like several other flags in the world. That, you know, still doesn't mean they don't have their own flag, but at least you're trying.
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#329 Aug 29 2012 at 10:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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...partisan...


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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#330 Aug 29 2012 at 10:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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lolgaxe wrote:
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The Cayman island "flag" is a simple variation of the red ensign
Except the part where it's a simple variation of the blue ensign, like several other flags in the world. That, you know, still doesn't mean they don't have their own flag, but at least you're trying.


It's a red ensign;But that's irrelevant, It's the official Cayman Isles flag.

The blue is used for state property, and the red is for civilian usage.

Edited, Aug 30th 2012 12:37am by Timelordwho
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#331ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 10:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK I'll bite. Tell me what do you think it means...
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lolgaxe wrote:
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The Cayman island "flag" is a simple variation of the red ensign
Except the part where it's a simple variation of the blue ensign, like several other flags in the world. That, you know, still doesn't mean they don't have their own flag, but at least you're trying.
It's a red ensign;
This is what we're talking about.
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#333 Aug 29 2012 at 10:38 PM Rating: Good
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Right, Romney used a red ensign on his boat, because while registered to the Caymans, it's not of the Cayman navy.

The component that is of the Caymans is the actual crest.
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#334ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 10:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Except that's not Romney's boat.
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Not pouty just amused that you and the rest of the petty little partisan keep trying desperately to turn this into some "proof"..

"Trying desperately"? Well, if quoting a couple lines and adding three words is "trying desperately", I'd hate to think how you'd describe your attempts to strike back against the story. Must have you really upset to have written all about Yahoo and the media and how these guys probably weren't "real" Republicans and now going on about the Cayman Islands flag. Someone is getting a little worried, I think...

Don't worry. Gbaji will still be here to back you up when you deny it Smiley: laugh
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#336 Aug 29 2012 at 10:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Right, Romney used a red ensign on his boat,
No no, the boat is a nonissue he's trying to use to distract from his "Cayman Islands don't have a flag" remark.
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#337ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 10:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I admit it I'm terrified.
#338ThiefX, Posted: Aug 29 2012 at 10:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Expect for they don't have a "flag" they have a Union Jack (red ensign) that they added their crest too just like Saint Helena ,Fiji and Bermuda and several other "countries" have done.
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#340 Aug 29 2012 at 10:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Right, Romney used a red ensign on his boat,
No no, the boat is a nonissue he's trying to use to distract from his "Cayman Islands don't have a flag" remark.


He's just super jazzed up about flags!
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Obviously the best defense to a story about Romney's upper tier contributors getting wined and dined on a yacht flying a foreign flag and registered to the Cayman Islands is to nit-pick the details on whether or not it's a "real" Cayman Islands flag. Because that's the detail people will care most about (assuming they care at all).
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#342 Aug 29 2012 at 11:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not entirely the right thread I guess but Obama did an AMA on reddit, for those of you who haven't seen it yet.

Edit: ****, missed the thread on it... I r blind like Bijou.

Edited, Aug 30th 2012 7:36am by Aethien
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#343 Aug 30 2012 at 1:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not entirely the right thread I guess but Obama did an AMA on reddit, for those of you who haven't seen it yet.

Edit: ****, missed the thread on it... I r blind like Bijou.

Or...bad at comprehension - like ThiefX

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#344 Aug 30 2012 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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several other "countries" have done.
You're either trying to imply they're not a country, which would be a weird argument to make since no one made the argument they are, or are you trying to imply only countries have flags, which I'm sure we can find about fifty examples to prove that wrong.
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On topic: I heard the other day that Paul Ryan's high school civics teacher won't be voting for him. He said he was a smart kid, and the school is proud of how far he's gone, but he disagrees fundamentally on the direction Ryan wants to take the country.

Actually, the home turf for Ryan seems to be pretty ambivalent about him. Many are still ****** off that his anti-earmark stance meant he couldn't do anything to save the plants that were once the lifeblood of the town, but which were all shuttered during the recession.
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On topic: I heard the other day that Paul Ryan's high school civics teacher won't be voting for him. He said he was a smart kid, and the school is proud of how far he's gone, but he disagrees fundamentally on the direction Ryan wants to take the country.


That's all well and good, but it's not exactly noteworthy. I wouldn't expect anyone's pre-held political leanings to take a backseat to the fact that they once taught someone in high school.
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No no, the boat is a nonissue he's trying to use to distract from his "Cayman Islands don't have a flag" remark.



Expect for they don't have a "flag" they have a Union Jack (red ensign) that they added their crest too just like Saint Helena ,Fiji and Bermuda and several other "countries" have done.

Each of these territories have their own official flags for, among other things, registered ships.

It's okay, we all know you don't know what you're talking about and are completely incapable of acknowledging and admitting such things.
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It's irrelevant anyway. The obvious bad optics come from the Cayman Islands connection with regards to Romney's off-shore accounts. No one who cares (and I posted just as a "ha-ha!", no one is suggesting this boat will decide the election) is going to say "Oh! The flag was missing a symbol? Well, I guess I got this Romney chap all wrong!"

It's actually funnier now that ThiefX, rather than ignoring it as unimportant, decided to waste post after post trying to defend Romney on the basis of how a flag looks Smiley: laugh
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#350ThiefX, Posted: Aug 30 2012 at 10:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not trying to imply anything. I used "countries" because that is what technically some of the places that use the "red ensign" are but the fact is that I have more people coming to my house Saturday to watch College football than some of these places have citizens.
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Right, Romney used a red ensign on his boat,
No no, the boat is a nonissue he's trying to use to distract from his "Cayman Islands don't have a flag" remark.


He's just super jazzed up about flags!


I laughed very long and hard at this. I think I need to get more sleep. Smiley: lol
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