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So I got two texts on the way to work yesterday. One, that Michael Clark Duncan died, and the other being a link to something Rush Limbaugh said a couple of months ago about how it was convenient that the name of the villain in the new Batman movie was Bane. Not that it was convenient it was Bane, but that he was named Bane. It was maybe a paragraph worth of Rush spouting how the liberal media is coercing people to vote Democrat, and then I realized I didn't have to go to work yesterday.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Tell your texts to be more timely. Is Batman even still in theaters?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
According to Flixster it is.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Maybe it's hit second-runs already. Though I'm still waiting for Avengers to hit the $2 theater.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
lolgaxe wrote:
So I got two texts on the way to work yesterday. One, that Michael Clark Duncan died, and the other being a link to something Rush Limbaugh said a couple of months ago about how it was convenient that the name of the villain in the new Batman movie was Bane. Not that it was convenient it was Bane, but that he was named Bane. It was maybe a paragraph worth of Rush spouting how the liberal media is coercing people to vote Democrat, and then I realized I didn't have to go to work yesterday.
Duncan died?!? Nooooooooo! He was one of my favorite big teddy bears.
#432gbaji,
Posted: Sep 04 2012 at 5:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Gonna go on a limb and assume that the word "Work" is intended to be in front of the word "attendance". Meaning that it was a work day, people were expected to show up, but during the event itself the mine was shut down and they were off the clock and free to do whatever they wanted. Which is pretty much exactly how you'd expect such an event to be managed. I'd assume they do the exact same thing every time Obama tours some factory somewhere. It's just selective reporting is all.
Well, as long as you guess it's true....
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Well, as long as you guess it's true....
The article is a butchery of the English language, full of holes and whatnot, but two relevant portions:
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The wife of an hourly employee at the Century mine said in an interview with the Washington Bureau the event was mandatory, and that workers were told to arrive at 8 a.m. to a local school, where they registered to attend the rally and then waited much of the day to be bused to the mine.
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The mine worker’s wife said her husband did not attend the rally and so far hasn’t faced any repercussions.
It appears as though the only mandatory thing was showing up and deciding whether one wished to attend the rally. Clearly, her husband wasn't forced to attend, choose not to attend, and suffered no ill effects for that choice. So where's the problem here? I'm not sure if there was supposed to be another phrase in that sentence ("arrive at 8 a.m. to a local school" makes no sense at all), but it sounds like they were required to report "somewhere" as though it was a normal workday, at which point those who wished to attend the rally could, and those who didn't want to could go back home. No one got paid for the time, but that's not unusual.
While the article reports that people were forced to attend the event, that's editorializing by the author, and presumably is coming from his source (the radio guy), none of the actual accounts of the actual workers shows that they were required to attend the event itself. Poor journalism, nothing more. Get back to me when there's some sort of actual evidence of this. If this actually happened, it would be illegal (requiring workers to attend an event, but not paying them is a violation of labor laws whether one is a member of a union or not despite some pretty pathetic hinting to the contrary by the writer), so where are the folks filing lawsuits, or going to their local labor boards? Instead, we're supposed to just accept that since some people allegedly (and anonymously) claimed this on some guys talk show that it must be true?
I'm not saying that something like this can't happen, but this is kinda weak evidence to go on.
Edited, Sep 4th 2012 5:24pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Well, as long as you guess it's true....
The article is a butchery of the English language, full of holes and whatnot, but two relevant portions:
Quote:
The wife of an hourly employee at the Century mine said in an interview with the Washington Bureau the event was mandatory, and that workers were told to arrive at 8 a.m. to a local school, where they registered to attend the rally and then waited much of the day to be bused to the mine.
Quote:
The mine worker’s wife said her husband did not attend the rally and so far hasn’t faced any repercussions.
It appears as though the only mandatory thing was showing up and deciding whether one wished to attend the rally. Clearly, her husband wasn't forced to attend, choose not to attend, and suffered no ill effects for that choice. So where's the problem here? I'm not sure if there was supposed to be another phrase in that sentence ("arrive at 8 a.m. to a local school" makes no sense at all), but it sounds like they were required to report "somewhere" as though it was a normal workday, at which point those who wished to attend the rally could, and those who didn't want to could go back home. No one got paid for the time, but that's not unusual.
While the article reports that people were forced to attend the event, that's editorializing by the author, and presumably is coming from his source (the radio guy), none of the actual accounts of the actual workers shows that they were required to attend the event itself. Poor journalism, nothing more. Get back to me when there's some sort of actual evidence of this. If this actually happened, it would be illegal (requiring workers to attend an event, but not paying them is a violation of labor laws whether one is a member of a union or not despite some pretty pathetic hinting to the contrary by the writer), so where are the folks filing lawsuits, or going to their local labor boards? Instead, we're supposed to just accept that since some people allegedly (and anonymously) claimed this on some guys talk show that it must be true?
I'm not saying that something like this can't happen, but this is kinda weak evidence to go on.
Edited, Sep 4th 2012 5:24pm by gbaji
Hi, idiot. Here's the context for you.
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Murray closed the mine the day of the rally, saying it was necessary for security and safety, then docked miners the day's pay. Asked by WWVA radio’s Blomquist about the allegations on Monday’s show, Murray chief operating officer Robert Moore said: “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.â€
They may not have been required to attend the event itself, but working their regular shift was taken away as an option, as was the pay involved in working that shift.
******* dumb ***.
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No one got paid for the time, but that's not unusual.
Oh, yes, just another day at work, I show up and don't get paid. Nothing unusual about that scenario.
gbaji previously wrote:
I'd assume they do the exact same thing every time Obama tours some factory somewhere
gbaji wrote:
No one got paid for the time, but that's not unusual.
I love how Gbaji has gone from straight-up guessing that ("I bet it's the same with Obama") to citing his previous guess from not even an hour prior as fact ("that's not unusual").
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Here's a radio interview with a spokesperson from the mine.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Jophiel wrote:
I love how Gbaji has gone from straight-up guessing that ("I bet it's the same with Obama") to citing his previous guess from not even an hour prior as fact ("that's not unusual"). 
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I am going to make that Honey Porter. I'm just about done drinking my nut brown ale and am looking for something new to try out.
Love,
PunkFloyd
PunkFloyd
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Murray closed the mine the day of the rally, saying it was necessary for security and safety, then docked miners the day's pay.
Um... They didn't get paid for work they didn't do. I'm not sure what your point is. When the mine is shut down, the workers, who are not working in the mine that day, do not get paid. This is normal. In fact, it would have been illegal for them to pay the workers since this was a political event. It's a violation of election laws to pay workers to attend political rallies. So your big bolded statement just tells us that they obeyed the election rules. WTF?
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Asked by WWVA radio’s Blomquist about the allegations on Monday’s show, Murray chief operating officer Robert Moore said: “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.â€
Yeah. What part of that quote makes you think that there's nothing we're missing about it. If you take it literally, it's self contradictory. But instead of attempting to find a meaning that would resolve that contradiction, you just ignore it and pretend that the second half just wasn't said at all.
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They may not have been required to attend the event itself, but working their regular shift was taken away as an option, as was the pay involved in working that shift.
Yup. In accordance with election laws. As I pointed out earlier, this is exactly what is done every time Obama shows up at some factory somewhere for a political event/tour/speech/whatever. It's required by law. All those guys standing around in hard hats when Obama does this? Showing him the latest car, solar panel, or widget they're working on? None of them get paid for doing that. And everyone who didn't want to attend the event are standing around outside on an extended smoke break not getting paid either.
The only thing unusual about this is that the media has decided to make it seem like it's unusual.
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@#%^ing dumb ***.
Lol! Really? Ignorance is bliss I guess.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
In fact, it would have been illegal for them to pay the workers since this was a political event. It's a violation of election laws to pay workers to attend political rallies.
Solution! Paid day off, attendance at the mine 100% voluntary and open attendance to whoever wants to roll on by. If you feel inclined to listen to Romney, show up. If you don't, go do anything else you can imagine instead with no repercussions from the workplace.
See? Now you're not paying workers to attend political rallies and the workers can get paid! I'm a genius!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Clinton killing it in his speech tonight. Well, he probably lost a lot of eyeballs during the long, rambly, wonky part. But still by far the key speech of either convention so far.
Slick Willy has still got it. Damn the guy doesn't seem to have lost a beat. Who better to talk for you then Ol' Bill. Heck Obama has a tough act to follow, its almost like Bill was running for office again. Sure beats Clint Eastwood in my mind.
Edited, Sep 6th 2012 1:33pm by rdmcandie
Edited, Sep 6th 2012 1:33pm by rdmcandie
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
In fact, it would have been illegal for them to pay the workers since this was a political event. It's a violation of election laws to pay workers to attend political rallies.
Solution! Paid day off, attendance at the mine 100% voluntary and open attendance to whoever wants to roll on by. If you feel inclined to listen to Romney, show up. If you don't, go do anything else you can imagine instead with no repercussions from the workplace.
See? Now you're not paying workers to attend political rallies and the workers can get paid! I'm a genius!
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How else would you convince someone to get into politics?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
In fact, it would have been illegal for them to pay the workers since this was a political event. It's a violation of election laws to pay workers to attend political rallies.
Solution! Paid day off, attendance at the mine 100% voluntary and open attendance to whoever wants to roll on by. If you feel inclined to listen to Romney, show up. If you don't, go do anything else you can imagine instead with no repercussions from the workplace.
See? Now you're not paying workers to attend political rallies and the workers can get paid! I'm a genius!
If they're not working, they not workers.
They're merely recipients. If you don't pay them, they can't even be that.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Why the fuck would anyone pay workers for not working?
I work for a manufacturing company, and my boss is a hard-core Republican. He voluntarily shuts down the company 9 days a year and still pays everyone!
Edited, Sep 6th 2012 1:14pm by trickybeck
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Why the fuck would anyone pay workers for not working?
Because you feel it's dreadfully important to have your candidate of choice at your plant but you don't want workers complaining to the media how they got stiffed a day's wages under Gbaji Law.
I honestly don't care if they got paid or not. It's the "not paid and told attendance was mandatory" part that's a real sticker. Although if I lost a day's wages due to some chucklenut coming by the plant, I'd be hard pressed to vote for said chucklenut.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Yeah, if the plant had to be shut down for safety reasons, then okay. But don't make people come to work in their hot, miserable miner's uniforms if they're not actually going to be mining that day.
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Why the fuck would anyone pay workers for not working?
It's no different than a paid holiday.
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