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#102 Aug 01 2012 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess I probably would, I might get quite a few surprises when I get around to visiting the states in person.
Been meaning to for years.
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#103 Aug 01 2012 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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They'd never get away with this in the states I'd imagine.
You might be surprised.

Well, if they put her in a swimsuit, or some sexy lingerie, it'd probably end up about the same. If she's nude, the religious activists would try to burn it.
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
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I was just looking at this photo essay at the Atlantic...

Warning: NSFW - Lots of naked people
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/07/the-naked-world-of-spencer-tunick/100344/

...and noticed that the shots were all done during daylight hours, in public, etc. And the one American shot was done indoors at 3:00am. I can just imagine trying to shoot those images in New York, Chicago or LA during normal waking hours. Well, actually I can't imagine it because there's no way it would happen.
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Makes sense that it's at night in a building that's usually very busy, although I guess the other places he's shot at are busy places too.
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Makes sense that it's at night in a building that's usually very busy, although I guess the other places he's shot at are busy places too.

Yeah, he's got stuff done in large public squares and whatnot. From what I remember, it was also his only indoor shot. Can you imagine one of the other photos being done at 3:00pm in Times Square?
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I've never been to Times Square but I imagine that'd be a hell of a lot of organizing.
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Can you imagine one of the other photos being done at 3:00pm in Times Square?


The religious folk might have something to say about all that sinful skin..
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I was just looking at this photo essay at the Atlantic...

Warning: NSFW - Lots of naked people
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/07/the-naked-world-of-spencer-tunick/100344/

...and noticed that the shots were all done during daylight hours, in public, etc. And the one American shot was done indoors at 3:00am. I can just imagine trying to shoot those images in New York, Chicago or LA during normal waking hours. Well, actually I can't imagine it because there's no way it would happen.



Tbh, I'm less surprised by the difference between the US and the others, and more surprised that he managed to convince that many people to lie naked on the floor in grand central station. I wouldn't want to go barefoot there, let alone lie down, butt naked.

I'm also slightly amused by how almost none of the pictures contained anyone with visibly hairy anything (baring the obvious heads and pubes), and the few that did didn't have many, and were much closer.
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#110 Aug 02 2012 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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I just got back from the UK, and tho' the quality of newsrag there is prettty lamentable (excepting a couple of notable publications),


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Unfortunately the majority of the UK read sh*t like "The Sun", which is more or less printed Fox News. Very sad.


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It's not a coincidence, 'The Sun" is part of Rupert Murdock's media empire.


The good news is that Rupert Murdoch's name is mud here now, with the News International Phone Hacking Scandal (Well worth researching by the way) still ongoing. As a result of this one of his papers "The News of the World" was axed and "The Sun" is soon-to-be under investigation for similar criminal offenses. Murdoch's empire is being systematically expelled from the UK, thank god. This isn't taking into account that Murdoch himself has been moving more and more assets to the USA and appeared on FOX News to say that he doesn't care about the English people anymore, which added another layer to the sh*t sandwich.
Paul McMullan is part of this "Gutter Press" who gets verbally mauled in this YouTube video.

The reasons "The Sun" sells so many papers is because,
1. It's dirt-cheap (30p), reflected in the quality of the writing too.
2. It never provides evidence or cites it's sources, it acts on "Opinion" (Guess Who's?)
3. Guys like seeing topless women.
4. Women like reading "Dear Deardrie" segments and like the trashy columns about celebrities.
5. Shorter articles, for people with short attention spans who don't want to get the full story.

Personally I read The Independent and/or The Guardian. Sure, they cost considerably more than other papers (£1.20) but the quality of journalism found is leagues better than anything Murdoch's rags provide. Despite being the herald for the end of life as we know it, I'll let The Daily Mail slide.

Back on topic, Romney is a tool.

Edited, Aug 1st 2012 11:02am by Tatham

I don't read the Independent broadsheet. I do however read their i paper. It's good for reading between lectures and such.

RE: Murdoch being essentially thrown out of the UK - Kind of glad about that. Seeing as his takeover bid for BSkyB has essentially been blocked I daresay he won't be back any time soon. Smiley: grin
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#111 Aug 02 2012 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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I was just looking at this photo essay at the Atlantic...


I like the last photo in that series just for the fact that the woman in the back looks like she's thinking "WTF is this baby doing here?".

Edited, Aug 2nd 2012 11:23am by Shaowstrike
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Makes sense that it's at night in a building that's usually very busy, although I guess the other places he's shot at are busy places too.

Yeah, he's got stuff done in large public squares and whatnot. From what I remember, it was also his only indoor shot. Can you imagine one of the other photos being done at 3:00pm in Times Square?
I can imagine the mothers crying that their babies have been damaged because they may have seen part of a naked a body. I can imagine the publitics chanting phrases about decadence, decay, gaydom, and the downfall of human civilization. Mostly though the rubber-necking would be worth photographing itself.
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This feels incredibly relevant.
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Reiterpallasch wrote:
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
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Romney Confuses 'Sikh' With 'Sheik'

US presidential candidate Mitt Romney has made another gaffe - wrongly referring to the scene of a recent deadly gun attack at a Sikh place of worship as a 'sheik' temple.

The Republican politician, who is racing against President Barack Obama to become the next American president, made the mistake at fundraising event in Iowa on Tuesday evening.

Paying tribute to those killed in the shooting in Wisconsin on Sunday , Mr Romney said: "We had a moment of silence in honour of the people who lost their lives at that sheikh temple. I noted that it was a tragedy for many, many reasons."

Further confusing the Arabic term with the Sikh religion, he went on: "Among them are the fact that people, the sheik people, are among the most peaceable and loving individuals you can imagine, as is their faith."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/romney-confuses-sikh-sheik-115557882.html
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I'm sure we'll look back on this mispronunciation of a word and pinpoint it as the exact moment Romney lost the election.
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#116 Aug 08 2012 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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He was actually in the running at one point?
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I'm sure we'll look back on this mispronunciation of a word and pinpoint it as the exact moment Romney lost the election.


If he indeed made the mistake twice, then I'd be skeptical of it being just a mispronunciation. I suspect that he didn't know the proper term.

Not that it really matters. It's not like this is going to damage his sterling reputation for cultural know-how.
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If he indeed made the mistake twice, then I'd be skeptical of it being just a mispronunciation. I suspect that he didn't know the proper term.


Me too.

Falls comfortably into the same category as the dozens of other inevitable awkward stumbles that politicians make every election cycle.
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If he indeed made the mistake twice, then I'd be skeptical of it being just a mispronunciation.
Well, he made the same mistake twice in the same speech. If he didn't know how to pronounce it right the first time, I kind of doubt he'd pronounce it correctly further in the speech. Not that it's impossible he just didn't know, just that it's the less likely of the two theories to me.

Either way, the more telling thing is how political "experts" will latch onto it to make talking points. Even bet it is a "liberal media conspiracy" how "blown out of perspective" and how it's "tricking millions of people against Romney" and such?
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#121 Aug 08 2012 at 11:51 AM Rating: Excellent
Yes, his use of "that", instead of the correct term "those", while taking his speech out of context can confuse simple minded fools.
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Sikh, Sheik, Shake... this was more amusing.
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Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul "offered an unusual counterattack to an ad in which a laid-off steelworker blames the presumptive GOP nominee for his family losing health care: If that family had lived in Massachusetts, it would have been covered by the former governor's universal health care law," Politico reports.

Said Saul: "To that point, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney's health care plan, they would have had health care."

"Oh yeah? Well, if she had lived somewhere with government mandated universal health coverage, she wouldn't have died... so THERE!!"
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#124 Aug 08 2012 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent
Weird how Romney can't run on his single greatest legislative accomplishment, isn't it?

In other news, Bain Capital start up money came from Salvadoran death squad financiers.
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Sikh, Sheik, Shake... this was more amusing.
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Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul "offered an unusual counterattack to an ad in which a laid-off steelworker blames the presumptive GOP nominee for his family losing health care: If that family had lived in Massachusetts, it would have been covered by the former governor's universal health care law," Politico reports.

Said Saul: "To that point, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney's health care plan, they would have had health care."

"Oh yeah? Well, if she had lived somewhere with government mandated universal health coverage, she wouldn't have died... so THERE!!"
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It was kinda hilarious to watch Ann Coulter hissing like a cat in the rain about this woman. I anticipate, much like Romney's gay former spokesman, this woman will soon disappear completely from the campaign.
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Romney was worried that the oligarchs might be tied to "illegal drug money, right-wing death squads, or left-wing terrorism,"
I found that statement the most amusing for some reason.
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In response to Romney's remarks in Israel about the success of Israel vs Palestine and his evocation of Guns, Germs & Steel, Jared Diamond (author of said book) wrote an op-ed saying that Romney is either lying when he claims to have read the book or is functionally retarded for misunderstanding it so completely.

While I wouldn't bet against the latter, I'm guessing it's the former. GG&S is one of those books where it's easy enough to feel like you have the jist of it and feel smart at cocktail parties but which isn't a real enthralling page-turner to read. I'm guessing there's a copy of it somewhere in Casa de Romney with an old bookmark somewhere around page 65.

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Add Krugman's acid comments about how the writers of Mitts economic policy have likely ruin their reputations.

Sorry folks if you already used up your 5 article limit for the month. Since my local newspaper went to trying not to have to pay reporters to cover news, I felt paying for the times online is well worth it just for the political coverage.
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Weird how Romney can't run on his single greatest legislative accomplishment, isn't it?

In other news, Bain Capital start up money came from Salvadoran death squad financiers.


Lot of info in that article, not much connecting of dots though. So there's a civil war going on, with lots of fighting and killing on both sides. So anyone of that nationality has to be divided into one of the two camps, and therefore must be directly responsible for any killing which happened? Seems like a bit of a stretch. If the seed money had come from folks on the other side, couldn't the same news sources claim that his money came from violent communist rebels who tortured people?

Just don't see a lot of "there" there.
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Just don't see a lot of "there" there.


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"I owe a great deal to Americans of Latin American descent," he said at a dinner in Miami in 2007. "When I was starting my business, I came to Miami to find partners that would believe in me and that would finance my enterprise. My partners were Ricardo Poma, Miguel Dueñas, Pancho Soler, Frank Kardonski, and Diego Ribadeneira."

Romney could also have thanked investors from two other wealthy and powerful Central American clans -- the de Sola and Salaverria families, who the Los Angeles Times and Boston Globe have reported were founding investors in Bain Capital.

While they were on the lookout for investments in the United States, members of some of these prominent families -- including the Salaverria, Poma, de Sola and Dueñas clans -- were also at the time financing, either directly or through political parties, death squads in El Salvador. The ruling classes were deploying the death squads to beat back left-wing guerrillas and reformers during El Salvador's civil war.


There, there.
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Weird how Romney can't run on his single greatest legislative accomplishment, isn't it?

In other news, Bain Capital start up money came from Salvadoran death squad financiers.


Lot of info in that article, not much connecting of dots though. So there's a civil war going on, with lots of fighting and killing on both sides. So anyone of that nationality has to be divided into one of the two camps, and therefore must be directly responsible for any killing which happened? Seems like a bit of a stretch. If the seed money had come from folks on the other side, couldn't the same news sources claim that his money came from violent communist rebels who tortured people?

Just don't see a lot of "there" there.
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Obama has an established foreign policy record. You can like it or not like it or go into conniptions over an iPod but so it goes.

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If the seed money had come from folks on the other side, couldn't the same news sources claim that his money came from violent communist rebels who tortured people?


Yes? Couldn't both be true? Why would you want to argue it matters at all? Shouldn't corporations sell to whomever has the money to buy? You see, this is where the high ground exists for your side. He legally accepted funds from interested investors. So? Don't argue the other stuff, it's not the point. The point for you should be that money is money. If Bain traded them grenades for the cash, sure that's an issue. If they took payment in cocaine and the souls of dead children, then there's an issue with the cocaine part. Get it? Even debating the point lends it a legitimacy you should be denying.

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I don't really weigh in on US political threads, not knowing them that much and when it comes to conservative policies in general, I generally won't speak up when gbaji will just come along and fucks up any ground work you may have laid in a conversation with anyone here.

Every now and then I might pipe up, but only for a few posts at most.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?_r=2
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If the seed money had come from folks on the other side, couldn't the same news sources claim that his money came from violent communist rebels who tortured people?


Yes? Couldn't both be true? Why would you want to argue it matters at all?


Um... I'm *not* arguing that it matters. I'm arguing against those who think it does. The specific point I was making was that if you look hard enough at any source of money, you can find some way to argue it's "bad". Which makes the argument irrelevant, doesn't it?

Maybe a different direction, but basically the same point you say I should be making. Except that the way you seem to think conservatives should say it involves them basically dismissing any ethical concerns about the source of money for something at all. I don't think that's a particularly great approach. Well, it's great if you want to fall right into the "greedy conservatives don't care about anything but making money" argument. Which I'm going to assume is precisely why you recommend it.


My argument isn't that we should ignore any ethical concerns, but that we should be reasonable in their application. The arguments being made here are not very reasonable. It's guilt by association of the most absurd degree.
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It's guilt by association of the most absurd degree.

Maybe keep this line in mind next time you use the phrase "you liberals"?
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Maybe a different direction, but basically the same point you say I should be making. Except that the way you seem to think conservatives should say it involves them basically dismissing any ethical concerns about the source of money for something at all. I don't think that's a particularly great approach. Well, it's great if you want to fall right into the "greedy conservatives don't care about anything but making money" argument. Which I'm going to assume is precisely why you recommend it.


First, try not to "assume" anything about why I do things. A fruit fly has a better chance of understanding quantum physics than you understanding my motivation for doing anything.

Second, you're wrong. It is the right approach. It's simple, concise and a compelling argument. That's the right approach. Arguing the minutia of something that's prima facie idiotic is a waste of time. This isn't a Saturday morning cartoon, you don't have to save "Form Blazing Sword" for the end. I wouldn't argue about the font on Obama's birth certificate. I'd just laugh at a fucking fool who thought it would be taken up by SCOTUS.

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#146 Sep 12 2012 at 9:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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In another show of foreign policy acumen, Romney blames Obama for apologizing to the embassy attackers...

...based on a statement originating from the US embassy in Egypt prior to any of the attacks.
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#147 Sep 12 2012 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hello? America to Joph? Obama is a commie muslim sleeper agent. He apologized ahead of time knowing when and where the attack was going to happen.
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President Romney will make darn sure that no embassy ever issues a calming statement when protesters are about to attack.
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#149 Sep 12 2012 at 10:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wait, are these oil rich protesters?
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#150 Sep 12 2012 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, their hair is probably rather oily...
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#151 Sep 12 2012 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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But is it hashish or crude?

Smiley: facepalm
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