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#1 Jul 20 2012 at 7:20 PM Rating: Unrated
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Once again liberals prove they have no shame or class.


Unless you live under a rock (or if you're like lolgaxe and never leave your basement apartment) you have probably heard already that at the midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" a mass shooting took place. link


Literally hours after this horrific event took place liberals (who never miss a chance for cheap political points) once again showed who they are. Link


With everything mentioned in the above link the thing I find most egregious was ABC news who actually tried to hint the Tea Party maybe involved because they found a name on a tea party list that matched the shooters name (apparently ABC news checks Tea Party lists whenever a tragedy happens) and without any proof that these 2 people were the same person (they weren't) they reported it as a possible link on a national broadcast.


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#2 Jul 20 2012 at 7:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good thing we're focusing on that instead of on the horror and tragedy of the situation itself. Stay classy, ThiefX.
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#3 Jul 20 2012 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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Rush? Tea Party? Guns?

The real enemy here in Disney for hiring the guy to ruin Dark Knight's opening weekend to take the threat away from Avenger's records!
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And, with that said...
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It hasn't even been 24 hours since a gunman opened fire on a crowded movie theater in Colorado and you can already predict the entire, familiar scene: the days and days of arguments about gun control, about mental health treatment access, about violence in movies and television. And, of course, the angry accusations that one person or another is "politicizing tragedy," unquestionably the worst sin in post-tragedy rhetoric.

This is stupid. There is no such thing as "politicizing" tragedy. James Holmes did not materialize in a movie theater in Aurora this morning, free of any relationship to law and authority and the structures of power in this country; nor did he exit those relationships and structures by murdering 12 people and injuring several dozen more. Before he entered the theater, he purchased guns, whether legally or illegally, under a framework of laws and regulations governed and negotiated by politics; in the parking lot outside, he was arrested by a police force whose salaries, equipment, tactics and rights were shaped and determined by politics. Holmes' ability to seek, or to not seek, mental health care; the government's ability, or inability, to lock up persons deemed unstable — these are things decided and directed by politics. You cannot "politicize" a tragedy because the tragedy is already political. When you talk about the tragedy you're already talking about politics.

None of which is to say that we should stop calling stupid people stupid. ABC's Brian Ross idiotically attempted to connect Holmes to the Tea Party; Breitbart's Joel Pollak incompetently sought to show that Holmes was a registered Democrat. They both failed not because they "politicized" the tragedy but because they're both exceptionally bad at their jobs. Even if they'd been right about Holmes' party affiliation, the failure wouldn't lie in writing about politics in connection with the massacre but doing so in a superficial, primitive way. They need to be argued against, not hushed up.

Because ultimately, as Dave Weigel and Adam Serwer point out, huge national tragedies are often the only time these issues are brought close enough to the surface that this conversation and negotiation — this politicking — can occur. And often that's the only way things will change. Forbidding the "politicization" of tragedy simply ensures that it will happen again.
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Literally hours after this horrific event took place conservatives (who never miss a chance for cheap political points) once again showed who they are. Link
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I'm going to get out in front of blaming this event on Ann Romney. You heard it here first.
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#7 Jul 20 2012 at 7:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, I'm kind of wondering about something; I saw nothing from this dude the entire time gbaji was gone, and then, within a day or two of gbaji coming back, so does this guy. Is this some sort of in joke I'm just not privy to? Is it some really funny coincidence? Smiley: confused
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The first thing that struck me, after the obvious visceral reaction to mass murder, was that his mother apparently was unsurprised at his involvement. His parents are, I suppose predictably, being described as good people. I wonder what she knew about her son that made her so certain that he would do something about this.

Jeffrey Dahmer's father wrote a book about raising his son and having uneasy intimations about what he might be. No parent wants to think their kid is a monster. And when the unthinkable happens, and the scapegoating begins... well. I would not want to be in their spot right now, or ever again.
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Blogger Joel B. Pollack, writing for the right wing blog network, reported early Friday that he had obtained voter registration records that he believed belonged to Holmes and which placed the 25-year Holmes in the Democratic Party. Five hours later, Pollack updated his story to note that his discovery was incorrect; the 24-year old Holmes in question, he wrote, may not even be registered to vote.

I'm shocked Breitbart News would retract this at all. Surely there was some grainy Youtube footage they could edit and fake it make it look like the guy was a Democrat.
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Way to hate, hater.
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#11 Jul 20 2012 at 9:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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What do you think the name of Michael Moore's film will be? Sailing for Aurora? Bruce Wayne's World?
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#12 Jul 20 2012 at 10:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Here we go...
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"He spent much of his time immersed in the computer, often participating in role-playing online games..."

I was wondering how long it would take.
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#13 Jul 20 2012 at 11:04 PM Rating: Good
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Because ultimately, as Dave Weigel and Adam Serwer point out, huge national tragedies are often the only time these issues are brought close enough to the surface that this conversation and negotiation — this politicking — can occur. And often that's the only way things will change. Forbidding the "politicization" of tragedy simply ensures that it will happen again.


While I agree with this, the Conservative retort to these mass shootings tends to be "Let's wait until the emotions die down before we talk about legislation."

Which in reality means lets wait until the outrage dies down a bit, a Kardashian does something stupid, people forget, & nothing happens. Remember the flack about high capacity rounds after Giffords got shot? I wonder what happened? Oh ya, nothing.

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#14 Jul 21 2012 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
A terrible tragedy, and it's shameful that anyone from any political background would use it to further their interests, regardless of whether they're republican or Democrat or what have you.

By making a political issue thread out of this, you're no better than the people you're pointing out, ThiefX. I suppose it's true that hypocrisy is rampant among those who actually choose a specific political affiliation.
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Here we go...
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"He spent much of his time immersed in the computer, often participating in role-playing online games..."

I was wondering how long it would take.


I think it was obvious from the get-go that the young man was a "roleplayer". He really really really wanted to be the f*cking Joker. Immediately I wondered who it might be from Alla. The shooter's family lives in San Diego and he had Tennessee license plates, so I think this further validates the theory that varus and gbaji are the same person.
#16 Jul 21 2012 at 7:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dude made a crappy Joker. Where was the laughing gas, bad puns, and clown themed equipment?
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#17 Jul 21 2012 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kastigir wrote:
Here we go...
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"He spent much of his time immersed in the computer, often participating in role-playing online games..."

I was wondering how long it would take.



Oh, conspiralicious! I liked this part:

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If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?



Student loans?

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#18 Jul 21 2012 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
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A Pell Grant would cover the weapons and ammo by itself.
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Oh, conspiralicious! I liked this part:
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If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?

Student loans?

What if it was the wife of a very wealthy businessman turned politician looking to steer the conversation away from a phonetic similarity between a major character in the film and the company the businessman was head of? Could such a wife perhaps finance these materials?
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Could such a wife perhaps finance these materials?


Only if she were to cut into her fund for horse dancing...
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#21 Jul 21 2012 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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I've seen someone make the argument recently that if more people were allowed to carry concealed weapons, someone else at the theatre would have shot him before he killed a bunch of people.

The dissonance is staggering.
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I've seen someone make the argument recently that if more people were allowed to carry concealed weapons, someone else at the theatre would have shot him before he killed a bunch of people.

The dissonance is staggering.


I don't quite understand your argument.
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#23 Jul 21 2012 at 10:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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There is already conjecture that James Holmes may have been involved in mind-altering neuroscience research

Driven insane by the Liberal Academic Establishment!
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Nilatai wrote:
I've seen someone make the argument recently that if more people were allowed to carry concealed weapons, someone else at the theatre would have shot him before he killed a bunch of people.

The dissonance is staggering.


I don't quite understand your argument.

Nor do I. You see instances all the time where law-abiding, conceal carry holders foil crimes all the time.
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Kastigir wrote:
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I've seen someone make the argument recently that if more people were allowed to carry concealed weapons, someone else at the theatre would have shot him before he killed a bunch of people.

The dissonance is staggering.


I don't quite understand your argument.

Nor do I. You see instances all the time where law-abiding, conceal carry holders foil crimes all the time.



In dark, crowded theaters with smoke bombs, panicked people and an armored opponent. Yep, all the time.
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Kastigir wrote:
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Nilatai wrote:
I've seen someone make the argument recently that if more people were allowed to carry concealed weapons, someone else at the theatre would have shot him before he killed a bunch of people.

The dissonance is staggering.


I don't quite understand your argument.

Nor do I. You see instances all the time where law-abiding, conceal carry holders foil crimes all the time.



In dark, crowded theaters with smoke bombs, panicked people and an armored opponent. Yep, all the time.

One occurrence does not a trend make.
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