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I'm sure that training doesn't have a scenario of "crazed maniac enters room with gas". Unless you're signing up for some Men in Black, super secret squirrel stuff.

You could still buy AR-15s before the assault weapons ban lapsed, there were certain mag restrictions but those could pretty easily be overcome. I haven't used the automatic model, but mostly because you're going to get better performance out of the semi anyway. The only things that are regulated about this particular rifle by the AWB were bayonet lugs, pistol grip, and high cap mags.

I own quite a number of guns. Mostly rifles and shotguns. Not for hunting. Though many in my family hunt, which is why I started shooting as a child, I don't hunt myself. Not due to some anti-hurting animals belief, but mainly because it's just a lot of work for very little useable meat, which in the end doesn't really taste the greatest. I really don't see a reason to have fully automatic assault rifles (and even handguns, but that's another story) available to the general public.

And I don't see how private stockpiles of even Assault Rifles would be leverage against the current government and its armed forces.

Damn, 100% accurate one shot kills.

So, what I'm hearing is you'll wear several hats. I'm not sure that will help your accuracy.

Drum mags aren't for accuracy training. You can empty one in ~7 secs if you have a modded AR.

Mainly because it isn't. The argument that the US can recreate the "Revolutionary War" with common Joe is asinine. With all of the military fire power and UN support that we have today, if it ever gets to the point where we are relying on some common guy with his rifle to defend the US, then we are already so far lost that the more probable downsides of owning the weapons severely outweigh that aforesaid scenario.

You mean "online fantasy games"...

My personal favorite defense gun has always been a Beretta Jetfire In 22 Short. I have carried it for many years, including while hiking. I never leave without it in my pocket.

Of course the first rule when hiking in the wilderness is to use the "Buddy System." This means you NEVER hike alone; You bring a friend, companion, or family member because if something happens there is someone to go get help.

I remember one time while hiking with my best friend in northern Alberta and out of nowhere came this huge brown bear charging us and, boy, was she mad. We must have been near one of her cubs. Anyway, if I had not had my little Jetfire I would not be here today. Just one shot to my friend's knee cap was all it took. The bear got him and I was able to escape by just walking at a brisk pace.

It's one of the best pistols in my collection.

That's not a good deterrent... Dissolving enough of the US military (Army,Navy,Marines,AF,Coast Guard), local police, other DOD units (i.e. SWAT) and UN ally nations will take much more than Joe carrying a rifle.

The only benefit of having that rifle is attacking someone else with equal or less fire power.



I was about to suggest that. Good thing I finished reading first.

Still catching up with this thread, so forgive me hitting points as I go along:



Very questionable. The one fact we can ascertain from his use of a 100 round drum (assuming that was the case) was that he didn't know squat about high capacity magazines. He went for the cool factor rather than the efficiency factor. Anyone who's ever actually used those (with non-military weapons), knows that they jam pretty consistently if you're foolish enough to actually put more than about 60-70% of the magazine capacity worth of bullets in them. Which appears to be exactly what happened to him and likely prevented the death tool from being more like 100+

If he'd really wanted to just kill a ton of people rather than fulfill an image-fantasy of himself he'd have brought a number of lower capacity magazines and reloaded.



Um... To the degree that mattered though. The problem with that ban (as I argued waaaaay back in the day) was that it didn't actually define what an assault weapon was (not surprising when you consider what they were trying to do). Thus, they just banned a list of weapons by name. Predictably, the manufacturers just sold the exact same guns (with perhaps minor cosmetic changes) under a different name. The law was allowed to expire because it was silly and useless.


Um... But even if somehow magically we passed a ban that made it impossible for him to obtain any sort of firearm with which he could possibly kill a bunch of people in a crowded theater (basically impossible unless you repeal the 2nd amendment), he clearly had the knowledge and access to materials to just make bombs instead. Explain to me how that would have lowered the death count.



Irrelevant considering "the above" are just plain wrong from start to finish.

I'm guessing here, but I think Tirith meant to say "semi-automatic assault rifles", not fully. The context makes sense then.

Oh. I want to take this moment to report on the most amusing thing I spotted on Fox News. I'm 100% sure I spotted a text banner that read "Shear Terror" in reference to the shooting. Apparently, there were sheep involved somehow...