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#1 Jun 19 2012 at 12:55 AM Rating: Excellent
So, I know these things usually get posted in the OoT forum, but it seems like we get more traffic here. I'm writing a paper for my Theories of Literacy class on reading for pleasure, and the impact it has on educational performance and life success. The purpose of the survey is to get some information on educational background and whether people like to read, and what is it about reading people enjoy. If they don't enjoy it, why not and what can be done to change this? So if you guys wouldn't mind filling out the survey, I'd be most appreciative. And feel free to derail the thread into a more interesting debate about education or something.

For example, one thing I learned while doing research for the paper, is that reading for pleasure has a very direct and positive impact on academic success. Apparently, if you look at a student of color from a low economic background who enjoys reading, they perform about as well as a rich white kid who doesn't like to read. I find that fascinating.

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#2 Jun 19 2012 at 1:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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#4 Jun 19 2012 at 1:27 AM Rating: Good
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So approved that you posted it twice.
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For example, one thing I learned while doing research for the paper, is that reading for pleasure has a very direct and positive impact on academic success. Apparently, if you look at a student of color from a low economic background who enjoys reading, they perform about as well as a rich white kid who doesn't like to read. I find that fascinating.
Honestly, I've always assumed that there would be a correlation there. Can we really assume that it's the cause rather than an additional effect of some third factor, though?
#5 Jun 19 2012 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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I couldn't figure out the first question. Smiley: confused
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#6 Jun 19 2012 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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You're giving out gold star stickers too right?
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#7 Jun 19 2012 at 9:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm more interested in finding out what got approved and why it needed approval in the first place.
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#8 Jun 19 2012 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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Needs a "some graduate school" option. Smiley: bah

I used to read a lot more when I was a little kid. It's not just the Internet and video games that took away my reading time; I also spend a lot more of my free time writing. (And graduate school. Can't forget graduate school. I had to read six chapters of IT project management in two days over the weekend...)
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I'm more interested in finding out what got approved and why it needed approval in the first place.


A while back a new forum rule was implemented that required all new "survey" type posts to obtain admin approval or risk being nuked/banned. Not sure why a long term poster would require such approval, but anyway...
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#10 Jun 19 2012 at 10:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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A while back a new forum rule was implemented that required all new "survey" type posts to obtain admin approval or risk being nuked/banned. Not sure why a long term poster would require such approval, but anyway...
The obvious answer would be that even long-term posters fall under the banner "all".

Hm. I wonder who ****** who off there.
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#11 Jun 19 2012 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Done.

It think you may have it backwards. Reading doesn't inherently make you more successful or encourage you to stay in school longer. People who stay in school might do so simply because they don't mind reading the course material or engaging their minds as much as others. Reading requires thinking which is a type of work, people who are good at thinking tend to not mind the "work" involved in reading and get more enjoyment out of the stories. It just so happens that people who are good at thinking also tend to end up better educated and more successful than those that don't. Always exceptions of course but I think if you take a group of readers and a group of non-readers the readers, on average, are probably more interested in expanding their knowledge than the non-readers.
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I wonder who ****** who off there.
I blame Denver.
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Atomicflea wrote:
I wonder who ****** who off there.
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#14 Jun 19 2012 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Atomicflea wrote:
I'm more interested in finding out what got approved and why it needed approval in the first place.


A while back a new forum rule was implemented that required all new "survey" type posts to obtain admin approval or risk being nuked/banned. Not sure why a long term poster would require such approval, but anyway...


I wasn't sure if I needed to get approval or not, and I figured it was best to err on the side of caution.

I absolutely agree that people who read do better academically, but I think the fact that they enjoy reading is a big cause of that. Intelligence is only genetic to a certain extent. I think it's much more impacted by nurture rather than nature. We don't really know for sure how it works, but most of the "experts" seem to agree that it isn't 100% genetic. Your environment has a huge impact on how well you succeed. If you have parents or some other role model that teaches you how important an education is, and how important reading is, you're going to do a lot better academically than otherwise.
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Well, intelligence is a combination of genetics and early development. Your level of intelligence is pretty much set by the time you're 5 or 6 years old along with your base personality. You can and do refine decision processes after that point but you're generally not going to fundamentally change how intelligent you are once your brain stops making new pathways. I expect being intelligent makes you more likely to enjoy reading but reading does not make you more intelligent. That's not to say reading isn't important, reading gives you the tools you need to demonstrate and apply your intelligence and is absolutely necessary in modern society. What good is intelligence if you have no information to process?

Reading is a byproduct of intelligence, not a cause.
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Hm. I wonder who ****** who off there.

No one person ****** off anyone. But the forums would (and still regularly do) get hit with fly-by posters saying "I need your opinions for my university thesis on whether or not MMORPGs turn users into psychotic rage-monkeys or whether it just makes them catatonic shut-ins"

So the Powers That Be implemented a blanket rule that anyone asking for survey help needed approval first or else it was an auto-nuke from the admins.
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#17 Jun 19 2012 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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There you go Pigtails. Also there was something at the end saying the creator of that survey would reimburse me for my time. So... whatcha up to later? Smiley: sly
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I couldn't figure out the first question. Smiley: confused

Ok, I chose the 41-50 age category rather than the 50 and over (I'm 50). Once I was ok with that answer the rest of the survey was a breeze.
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Atomicflea wrote:
I wonder who ****** who off there.
I blame Denver.
I'm going there in a couple weeks. If I get a kickstarter going for a fund to get a giant boot to use for kicking that one professor, would you all chip in?
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If someone posts a survey internally on the forum itself using the forum poll software, it's automatically allowed. If someone wants to post a link to an external survey, which likely records IP addresses amongst the other data it asks, we wnat to have some oversight. That, and right around midterms and finals times we get hit with a lot of these, of which we only approve a fraction. Many are poorly done repetitions of surveys we have already seen here. some are flat out repeats. others are blatant attempts to harvest character names and enough personal data to attempt to steal accounts. And a large subset of them are biased "gaming addiction" surveys that are usually rather offensivly worded attempts to get people to support the survey posters revoilutionary theory that all gamers are addicted ne'r do wells with major psychological issues. The worst of those generally get forcefully culled.

Long time posters in theory get automatically approved, but since they are generating datasets of our posters which could theoretically contain enough information to assist an attack, I like to be careful and check them over. Especially in the gaming forums, you have people who you know from their posts likely have accounts that would go for high value if sold for money, their IP address, often time specific character names to target, real names, locations, approximate ages, etc. Now take those and extract known data and combine it with a list of most likely passwords, and you get maybe a 1 in 100 account hit.It's a problem, though one that we haven't really encountered to a large degree yet. There have been definite attempts though, which was one of the main reasons for the rule implementation. That and some of the forum sections were getting hit with 10-20 of these per week.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
If someone posts a survey internally on the forum itself using the forum poll software, it's automatically allowed. If someone wants to post a link to an external survey, which likely records IP addresses amongst the other data it asks, we wnat to have some oversight. That, and right around midterms and finals times we get hit with a lot of these, of which we only approve a fraction. Many are poorly done repetitions of surveys we have already seen here. some are flat out repeats. others are blatant attempts to harvest character names and enough personal data to attempt to steal accounts. And a large subset of them are biased "gaming addiction" surveys that are usually rather offensivly worded attempts to get people to support the survey posters revoilutionary theory that all gamers are addicted ne'r do wells with major psychological issues. The worst of those generally get forcefully culled.

Long time posters in theory get automatically approved, but since they are generating datasets of our posters which could theoretically contain enough information to assist an attack, I like to be careful and check them over. Especially in the gaming forums, you have people who you know from their posts likely have accounts that would go for high value if sold for money, their IP address, often time specific character names to target, real names, locations, approximate ages, etc. Now take those and extract known data and combine it with a list of most likely passwords, and you get maybe a 1 in 100 account hit.It's a problem, though one that we haven't really encountered to a large degree yet. There have been definite attempts though, which was one of the main reasons for the rule implementation. That and some of the forum sections were getting hit with 10-20 of these per week.
Thanks, Kao. Now I know to avoid these entirely. Or else, option E) Smiley: cheese
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
If someone posts a survey internally on the forum itself using the forum poll software, it's automatically allowed

Am I allowed to start thirty threads, each one with a different forum poll question about how MMORPGs turned you into a socially retarded Morlock?

I miss the old uBB's multi-question polling Smiley: frown
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Multi question polling is on the list for implementation someday. And I would prefer not to see 30 threads as that would be just a leeetle spammy.
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#25 Jun 19 2012 at 5:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I wonder who ****** who off there.
I blame Denver.
I'm going there in a couple weeks. If I get a kickstarter going for a fund to get a giant boot to use for kicking that one professor, would you all chip in?

Possibly, I would at least would be willing to sign his e-mail up to a couple of survey spamming websites or something.
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I did this, but I have to say I did not like the last question. It felt leading by implying that books are not as much fun as television or video games, which I have to disagree with. Worst thing for a book would be any sort of spoken dialogue (which is why I hate voice acting in video games. I get more out of it when I can pace it myself instead of reading faster than somebody can talk)
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