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#1 Jun 05 2012 at 6:14 AM Rating: Good
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So much at stake on this gloomy tuesday.

Venus will trek across the sun today. I wont' likely see this as my little piece of the sky is covered with low-hanging clouds - as is the case with much of this side of the world. Still, it is hoped that this event will divulge some scientific secrets that Venus has not yet shared with us. It could also herald the coming of a second christ, the ending of the first age of man, or a global tree-frog infestation.

What if a baby is born onto the Asylum today, will the forces of good and evil be held in balance by the union of smash-sperm and nexa-ova?

....and of course Wisconsin holds their gubernatorial recall election today. The outcome is pretty substantial. Will Walker win this game of thrones, or will he be usurped by that dirty liberal guy?

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That would be fine with me...I'm sick of being pregnant. It's too late though, the kid is obviously already evil...he's currently trying to suffocate me with his feet.

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Worst thing is I've already heard that damn Bananarama song on the radio a dozen times today.
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Yeah, WTF are you listening to that plays that?
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It played a few times on the taxi ride to work on that damn little television. Or maybe just once and the coffee hadn't kicked in yet.
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That and the above mentioned song make up the entirety of songs I know invoking Venus.
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She's Venus in blue jeans
Mona Lisa with a ponytail...

That and the above mentioned song make up the entirety of songs I know invoking Venus.


It features prominently in some limericks I know...
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She's Venus in blue jeans
Mona Lisa with a ponytail...


That and the above mentioned song make up the entirety of songs I know invoking Venus.

Damn, now I have that sh*ttastic "She's So High Above Me" song stuck in my head, except that's Aphrodite.
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#10 Jun 05 2012 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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Worst thing is I've already heard that damn Bananarama song on the radio a dozen times today.


Aww, I like that song. Smiley: frown Although I wouldn't want to hear it a dozen times in one day.
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I have to get up at 4:30am to see this. Smiley: frown
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#12 Jun 05 2012 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I voted for Scott Walker again. Haha, just kidding. Fuck that asshole again. In the ass.

I'm more hoping that one of the four pubbie state senators lose their recall since that will remove their super majority (they kind of already lost it when they lost guaranteed quorum, but yeah).
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As a public sector worker, I just want to take a moment since I have to smile and play nice otherwise to say fuck all you public worker hating assbags. I keep my head down and do my job. Hell, I even do a job now that most on the right against public assistance would appreciate (prevent/find fraud).
#14 Jun 05 2012 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
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As a public sector worker, I just want to take a moment since I have to smile and play nice otherwise to say fuck all you public worker hating assbags. I keep my head down and do my job. Hell, I even do a job now that most on the right against public assistance would appreciate (prevent/find fraud).

Stop posting on internet forums and get back to work.
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Turns out the kid that everyone thought was gay in high school actually was, now lives in WI with his partner, and works with Equality WI. I keep getting facebook status updates dealing with his various meetings with congress people, ex presidents, and photos of them holding lit letters spelling out "BARRETT & MITCHELL" over some overpass in Milwaukee?
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As a public sector worker, I just want to take a moment since I have to smile and play nice otherwise to say fuck all you public worker hating assbags. I keep my head down and do my job. Hell, I even do a job now that most on the right against public assistance would appreciate (prevent/find fraud).

Stop posting on internet forums and get back to work.


Funny that you should mention that since I do occasionally browse here on my lunch. I have to carefully track my time usage since part of the department budget is federal funding. That means that sometimes when I use the toilet, your taxes are paying for my business. Just doing my duty. Smiley: grin
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As a public sector worker, I just want to take a moment since I have to smile and play nice otherwise to say @#%^ all you public worker hating assbags.



And as a tax payer please allow me to be the first to say :-)
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As a public sector worker, I just want to take a moment since I have to smile and play nice otherwise to say @#%^ all you public worker hating assbags.



And as a tax payer please allow me to be the first to say :-)


Cool story bro, I already called this weeks ago. Money wins elections.

Ha! Here I thought you were linking a "Walker Wins!" article. So what makes you think I automagically support unions in the first place? Because I'm in Wisconsin and a public worker? I'm actually rather ambivalent regarding public unions. Scott Walker and his buddies are sucking our state dry and when he's done, he will move on to some private sector lobbying job or on to national politics. I lost some faith in my state when we voted out Russ Feingold in favor of Ron "lol" Johnson. Tonight I just lost a little more. Incoming indictment in 3, 2, 1?

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As far as I'm concerned, we won. Lehman beat Wanggaard in the recall which means the pubbies can no longer Hulk Smash things through the legislature (at least until the Fall).

Mission accomplished in a GW, Wisconsin is still @#%^ed kind of way.
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As a public sector worker, I just want to take a moment since I have to smile and play nice otherwise to say @#%^ all you public worker hating assbags.



And as a tax payer please allow me to be the first to say :-)
Why do you want to 'doom' public sector employees?

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#22ThiefX, Posted: Jun 06 2012 at 7:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Because Public employee Unions have become the biggest money laundering/vote buying scheme in politics. For decades they have gutted City and States and any attempt to control the waste and benefit packages that tax payers get stuck paying for has been met with Democrats screaming "IT"S A WAR ON THE MIDDLE CLASS!!!!!"
#23ThiefX, Posted: Jun 06 2012 at 7:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Is that your normal pick up line you use outside of the local elementary school?
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Aww, is mommy and daddy giving you an allowance so you can buy candy after school, sweety?
Is that your normal pick up line you use outside of the local elementary school?
Why? You hear it often before getting in the van?
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#25 Jun 06 2012 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Why do you want to 'doom' public sector employees?



Because Public employee Unions have become the biggest money laundering/vote buying scheme in politics.

And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers. In fact, rarely do I hear about successful lobbying attempts by unions anymore. They lose out to the corporate lobby almost every time.

Follow the money trail, it doesn't lead to public employees.
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources.
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Follow the money trail, it doesn't lead to public employees.

Actually, it does, just in a more round about sort of way. Public employees are no better than welfare recipients. They suck at the government tit and largely vote for whoever promises to increase their ranks or their union contract benefits. The money trail that leads to them is the conflict of interest that is inherent to public sector unionization.


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Public employees are no better than welfare recipients. They suck at the government tit and largely vote for whoever promises to increase their ranks or their union contract benefits.

So they look out for themselves foremost and fuck everyone else hurt by it? I'm surprised they don't vote Republican Smiley: grin
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources.
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Follow the money trail, it doesn't lead to public employees.

Actually, it does, just in a more round about sort of way. Public employees are no better than welfare recipients. They suck at the government tit and largely vote for whoever promises to increase their ranks or their union contract benefits. The money trail that leads to them is the conflict of interest that is inherent to public sector unionization.



You still carrying that big ol chip on your shoulder cuz your kids teacher (a female no less) makes more money than you?

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You still carrying that big ol chip on your shoulder cuz your kids teacher (a female no less) makes more money than you?

Nope. Now I'm pissed because she makes almost as much as my wife.
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources..


Can you think of a single powerful country without a well developed civil service?
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources..


Can you think of a single powerful country without a well developed civil service?

I believe that Moe was referring to union bosses, not union members.
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources..


Can you think of a single powerful country without a well developed civil service?

I believe that Moe was referring to union bosses, not union members.


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Actually, it does, just in a more round about sort of way. Public employees are no better than welfare recipients.


Nah, he means all punlic employees.

It was a bad quote, though.

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You still carrying that big ol chip on your shoulder cuz your kids teacher (a female no less) makes more money than you?

Nope. Now I'm pissed because she makes almost as much as my wife.


And why is that a bad thing?
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Well, she's a Brigadier General ...
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Doesn't that mean she's no better than a welfare recipient?
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Kavekk wrote:
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources..


Can you think of a single powerful country without a well developed civil service?

The U.S. before the explosion of the Federal government in the last 40 years.
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources..


Can you think of a single powerful country without a well developed civil service?

The U.S. before the explosion of the Federal government in the last 40 years.

I'd take it back to FDR's new deal. Except for war-time expansion of the military the growth of the federal government since then has been pretty unremarkable.
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My bosses comment following the Walker's triumph. STORY
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We've had pay cuts, hour reductions, lay-offs and most recently (and rather unexpectedly) our health insurance was flat-funded. I am effectively making less money than I did 5 years ago. Longevity pay has been removed and we've received no merit raises or cost of living raises since 2008. I hold a college degree and am a twenty year employee. I fall into the corrupt group of middle management. I make about 50k a year. This is what our quivering blob of a union has done for us lately.

Oh ouch it hurts. Smiley: rolleyes

Meh, lunch 1/2 hour is over - better get back to work. Smiley: frown (I'm kind of sad about my job today)
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We've had pay cuts, hour reductions, lay-offs and most recently (and rather unexpectedly) our health insurance was flat-funded. I am effectively making less money than I did 5 years ago. Longevity pay has been removed and we've received no merit raises or cost of living raises since 2008.

This experience is not unique to public unions. The only difference is that bleeding hearts aren't lamenting the plight of the private-sector desk jockey.
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Elinda wrote:
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Can you think of a single powerful country without a well developed civil service?

The U.S. before the explosion of the Federal government in the last 40 years.

I'd take it back to FDR's new deal. Except for war-time expansion of the military the growth of the federal government since then has been pretty unremarkable.

Yes, but I live in Minnesota. Having seen the education system where you grew up, that doesn't surprise me.
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We've had pay cuts, hour reductions, lay-offs and most recently (and rather unexpectedly) our health insurance was flat-funded. I am effectively making less money than I did 5 years ago. Longevity pay has been removed and we've received no merit raises or cost of living raises since 2008.

This experience is not unique to public unions. The only difference is that bleeding hearts aren't lamenting the plight of the private-sector desk jockey.
At least in Maine, the private sector pays better, measurably better. Regardless, if the public and private sector are both tightening their belts equally, what's the deal with dismantling public-employee unions. What makes them SO evil?






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At least in Maine, the private sector pays better, measurably better. Regardless, if the public and private sector are both tightening their belts equally, what's the deal with dismantling public-employee unions. What makes them SO evil?

Including benefits and work rules? Or are you just looking at salary? See, I'd take a pay cut too, were I in a similar job, if I could get an 80% pension and Cadillac health coverage. But I work for a for-profit company, and that's just not profitable.
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources..


Can you think of a single powerful country without a well developed civil service?

The U.S. before the explosion of the Federal government in the last 40 years.


The statistics don't support your claim. Granted, they only go back 50 years and there was likely a huge explosion in government employment during the 1930s and 1940s, but you did say 40 years.
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We've had pay cuts, hour reductions, lay-offs and most recently (and rather unexpectedly) our health insurance was flat-funded. I am effectively making less money than I did 5 years ago. Longevity pay has been removed and we've received no merit raises or cost of living raises since 2008.

This experience is not unique to public unions. The only difference is that bleeding hearts aren't lamenting the plight of the private-sector desk jockey.
At least in Maine, the private sector pays better, measurably better. Regardless, if the public and private sector are both tightening their belts equally, what's the deal with dismantling public-employee unions. What makes them SO evil?

I'm sure gbaji can (and will, Bob help us) give you a more thorough answer, but as best as I understand it (without necessarily buying into all of it), Joe Taxpayer is frustrated that all of his retirement savings got wiped out in the various financial collapses, but he's still on the hook (or more accurately, his kids are) to pay for Jane Publicunion's pension. Plus, when public unions are negotiating their CBA with local/state/federal governments, the gov't doesn't have as much incentive to limit benefits and cost increases since they're not really paying them with their money (but rather with Joe Taxpayer's taxes).

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The statistics don't support your claim. Granted, they only go back 50 years and there was likely a huge explosion in government employment during the 1930s and 1940s, but you did say 40 years.


I see congress has quietly doubled their payroll while slashing the size of the military drastically. Smiley: tinfoilhat
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That's exactly the kind of logic that lets the terrorists win. Smiley: disappointed
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And yet I don't see any union boss names on that list of gazillionaires that forbes puts out every year. I don't see their names in the news receiving seven digit bonuses despite laying off workers.

Perhaps it's because they create nothing and do little, if anything, to contribute to the economy. They are a drain on resources..


Can you think of a single powerful country without a well developed civil service?

The U.S. before the explosion of the Federal government in the last 40 years.


The statistics don't support your claim. Granted, they only go back 50 years and there was likely a huge explosion in government employment during the 1930s and 1940s, but you did say 40 years.

Yours don't, but I didn't say since the explosion of Federal government employment in the last 40 years.
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