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The question could also be; Has drug related crime gone down (aside from possession and selling); or, What has the revenue stream done for the economy; or, Where can I get some of those jalepeno flavored Cheetos.
Dandruffshampoo wrote:
Curses, beaten by Professor stupidopo-opo.
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Stupidmonkey is more organized than a bag of raccoons.
Jophiel wrote:
PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
People are going to drive while stoned whether pot is illegal or not. I don't see the point in making that your bone of contention.
Unless you think the number of people smoking weed will remain constant whether it's legal or not, this is a perfectly valid point of contention.
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I just think it's stupid that it's illegal. It's actually less harmful for you than cigarettes are
This might potentially be a great reason to make cigarettes illegal. It's a terrible reason (by itself) to make pot legal.
Edited, May 28th 2012 12:19pm by Jophiel
I think that more people would probably smoke if it's legalized yeah. But the people that would wait to smoke it until its legal are going to be more likely to be responsible, and not drive while intoxicated in the first place. I don't think the ratio of people who drive while stoned vs. people who don't drive while stoned, would change all that much if pot was legal.
Comparing pot to cigarettes isn't the only reason I have for wanting pot to be legal, it's just the first one that usually pops in my head. There are plenty of drugs that are way worse for you than pot that are legal, and I don't like hypocrisy.
The amount of money we spend on the so called "drug war" is the most valid reason I can think of. Between the DEA, and people we put in prison for years for either possession or selling, we waste so much money. Plus Aeth makes a good point about how much money we could make by taxing it too. My only concern is that pot would then get taken over by corporations and get as much crap put in it as cigarettes.
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
But it's addictive in the same way that cracking your knuckles, biting your nails, or smoking cigarettes are. And I'm willing to bet that cigarettes have a much higher chance of destroying your life than pot does.
Cigarettes, or rather the nicotine in them, is physically addictive, and some researchers have claimed that it is harder to quit smoking cigarettes then it is to quit taking heroin Citation Needed
Dandruffshampoo wrote:
Curses, beaten by Professor stupidopo-opo.
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Stupidmonkey is more organized than a bag of raccoons.
Is it? I was under the impression it wasn't. Okay then.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
The question could also be...
Not when discussing pot related traffic stops, no.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
But it's addictive in the same way that cracking your knuckles, biting your nails, or smoking cigarettes are. And I'm willing to bet that cigarettes have a much higher chance of destroying your life than pot does.
Cigarettes, or rather the nicotine in them, is physically addictive, and some researchers have claimed that it is harder to quit smoking cigarettes then it is to quit taking heroin Citation Needed
I am currently trying to quit cigarettes. Yes, they are extremely physically addictive. And I am trying my hardest not to bum one off my sister or kill someone. Remembering that I have a heart murmur isn't helping either. I don't care. I want to die while smoking.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons people have gotten so upset with the tobacco companies in the last 10-15 years. They've known all along that nicotine was addictive and dangerous, and tried to play dumb when people started dying of emphysema after smoking for their entire adult lives. It's one of the main reasons I've never even tried cigarettes. I have lots of friends who do, and it makes me sad. Especially when they didn't smoke in high school.
Nadenu wrote:
Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
But it's addictive in the same way that cracking your knuckles, biting your nails, or smoking cigarettes are. And I'm willing to bet that cigarettes have a much higher chance of destroying your life than pot does.
Cigarettes, or rather the nicotine in them, is physically addictive, and some researchers have claimed that it is harder to quit smoking cigarettes then it is to quit taking heroin Citation Needed
I am currently trying to quit cigarettes. Yes, they are extremely physically addictive. And I am trying my hardest not to bum one off my sister or kill someone. Remembering that I have a heart murmur isn't helping either. I don't care. I want to die while smoking.
Commit lozenges. Not the big ones, the minis. I've tried gum, patches, cold turkey, the mini lozenges are the only thing that helped.
And I'm convinced the "Truth" advertisements are nothing more than legal cigarette ads for smokers. Nothing makes a smoker want a cigarette more than hearing someone talk about one or seeing one.
Jophiel wrote:
The question would be whether it's lower in your country now than it was pre-legalization, not to compare your use to that in the US.
Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
But it's addictive in the same way that cracking your knuckles, biting your nails, or smoking cigarettes are. And I'm willing to bet that cigarettes have a much higher chance of destroying your life than pot does.
Cigarettes, or rather the nicotine in them, is physically addictive, and some researchers have claimed that it is harder to quit smoking cigarettes then it is to quit taking heroin Citation Needed
PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
Yeah, that's one of the reasons people have gotten so upset with the tobacco companies in the last 10-15 years. They've known all along that nicotine was addictive and dangerous, and tried to play dumb when people started dying of emphysema after smoking for their entire adult lives. It's one of the main reasons I've never even tried cigarettes. I have lots of friends who do, and it makes me sad. Especially when they didn't smoke in high school.
Well, the big controversy is that tobacco companies actively manipulated the amount of nicotine in cigarettes in order to make them more addictive, well after the harmful effects were well known.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Well, I made it through last night (and the last two days) and no one is dead. Yet.
Maybe there's hope. I actually feel pretty good this morning. Of course, it's early.
Maybe there's hope. I actually feel pretty good this morning. Of course, it's early.
You can do it!
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Jophiel wrote:
Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
The question could also be...
Not when discussing pot related traffic stops, no.
Yeah, but that doesn't lead to my punch line AT ALL!
Also, I quit smoking cigarettes on September 17th, 2011, and I still brief moments where I would like to either have a cigarette, or poke somebody in the eye!
Dandruffshampoo wrote:
Curses, beaten by Professor stupidopo-opo.
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Stupidmonkey is more organized than a bag of raccoons.
The problem with the "Drug war" argument is that it only really works on people who are already convinced that pot isn't "that bad". If you're someone sure that legalization will mean the nation will turn into a land of Lebowskis and Spicolis, the money spent stopping that decline is still money well spent. Maybe it could be more effectively spent stopping pot but the answer wouldn't ever be "Let's just call it a day".
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
It would be pretty cool to get stoned with prez.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I've not had a cigarette for about 7 days. Hospitals frown on that kind of thing. Not sure if I want to keep it up, though. The not smoking, I mean.
Kind of hard quitting as a student, it's one of the few vices I can afford!
Kind of hard quitting as a student, it's one of the few vices I can afford!
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
Also, I quit smoking cigarettes on September 17th, 2011, and I still brief moments where I would like to either have a cigarette, or poke somebody in the eye!
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
That's because people are **********
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Not always. I blame my exposure to the Three Stooges for my random urges to eye poke.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
For those quitting (or trying to), I suggest e-cigarettes. Not the rip-off boxes that you can get in gas stations and such, but the ones you order online are better. I'm addicted to my e-cig now, but at least there's no tobacco involved - and I'm not even using any nicotine, either.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
I thought jury was out on e-cigs. RE: Pot-Never had issue with the drug itself as much as the general laziness and personal hygiene of just about any pot smoker I've known. I would lean against it because on the whole, I've never met an active smoker that I thought "Now there's a productive human being" about, but like Joph, the whole subject is meh to me. Never drank to get wasted, never did any drugs, mostly because it's universally acknowledged by anyone who has ever met me that I bring the party stone cold sober.
Atomicflea wrote:
I thought jury was out on e-cigs.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Atomicflea wrote:
I thought jury was out on e-cigs. RE: Pot-Never had issue with the drug itself as much as the general laziness and personal hygiene of just about any pot smoker I've known. I would lean against it because on the whole, I've never met an active smoker that I thought "Now there's a productive human being" about, but like Joph, the whole subject is meh to me. Never drank to get wasted, never did any drugs, mostly because it's universally acknowledged by anyone who has ever met me that I bring the party stone cold sober.
I guess I should have showered after that first night in Boston.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Atomicflea wrote:
RE: Pot-Never had issue with the drug itself as much as the general laziness and personal hygiene of just about any pot smoker I've known. I would lean against it because on the whole, I've never met an active smoker that I thought "Now there's a productive human being" about, [...]
I'm not disagreeing that many pot smokers have poor hygiene and are lazy, but there are plenty of people out there who smoke recreationally and maintain successful lives, just as there are plenty of people who drink alcohol and manage to not be alcoholic slobs.
Edited, May 29th 2012 7:33pm by Spoonless
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