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#1 May 26 2012 at 4:42 AM Rating: Good
From the forthcoming book by Pulitzer Prize winner David Maraniss, Barack Obama: The Story, comes this amusing factoid:

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Barry also had a knack for interceptions. When a joint was making the rounds, he often elbowed his way in, out of turn, shouted "Intercepted!," and took an extra hit. No one seemed to mind.


More importantly: Does that make him a socialist for sharing, or a capitalist for taking advantage of his peers?
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#2 May 26 2012 at 5:32 AM Rating: Good
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Oh wow. Obama use to smoke weed? I'm totally not voting for him now.
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#4 May 26 2012 at 6:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, the important question is, how germane is this? The last three Presidents have been known to do recreational drugs. At least the Democrats stuck to pot.

When are we going to legalize the evil weed and stop fighting this pointless battle?

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I've always thought pot was a waste of time, but at least he was doing it at an appropriate time in his life, as opposed to say, when he was managing a business or trying to support a family.
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No, the important question is why nobody called him for saying stupid **** like "intercepted!"
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The real question that this interception thing raises, is that with a name like Barack Obama, how good of a cornerback would he have made? I bet, if he worked at it, he could have beaten out Jabari Greer, at least.

Had he been named D'Barack, he'd be rivaling Nnamdi Asomugha.
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#9 May 26 2012 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
Didn't he also admit to having tried cocaine or heroin in one of his books? Although really, who cares what drugs he's tried as long as he did them when he was young and stupid like Flea said?

I think that my first wake up call to how hypocritical Republicans (although politicians in general really) are, was when George was running back in 2000 and got his dirty laundry aired. I was only 8 when Clinton ran the first time, but I still remember people making a big deal out of him having smoked pot when he was in college. Then Bush runs when I'm 16 and the Republicans seem to not care that he did cocaine and was an alcoholic while he had a family. I guess since he was supposedly done with that life style, that made it okay. Smiley: rolleyes
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He'd been born again, you see. That clears the slate for us white folks. For the browns and blacks, well, not so much.

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#11 May 26 2012 at 8:52 AM Rating: Good
So because Clinton had been a "normal" Christian his whole life that doesn't count? Smiley: sly
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So because Clinton had been a "normal" Christian his whole life that doesn't count? Smiley: sly


Exactly. For the evangelicals who have taken over the GOP, being a good person is not enough. You must be a convert, because someone told them there' s no saint like a converted sinner. Hence, regular good Christians are not quite special enough.

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Oh wow. Obama use to smoke weed? I'm totally not voting for him now.
Who hasn't at least tried weed?
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Honestly, I haven't. Haven't smoked weed or tobacco, and only drink alcohol on rare occasions.

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Kuwoobie wrote:
Oh wow. Obama use to smoke weed? I'm totally not voting for him now.
Who hasn't at least tried weed?


Not everyone feels a compulsory need to try a mind altering substance just because their friends are doing it. I'm not saying I haven't tried it, or that I object to people that do it, but the attitude that it's as common as say, breathing, is just ******* stupid. Personally, pot makes me sleepy and that's about it. If it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy or whatever, that's cool too, but I find that people who are overly open about their desire to smoke / history of smoking pot are usually trying to compensate for something.
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I've always thought pot was a waste of time, but at least he was doing it at an appropriate time in his life, as opposed to say, when he was managing a business or trying to support a family.

I don't see how that's relevant...
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Kuwoobie wrote:
Oh wow. Obama use to smoke weed? I'm totally not voting for him now.
Who hasn't at least tried weed?

I haven't. Just don't care to, and I HATE the smell of it.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
Oh wow. Obama use to smoke weed? I'm totally not voting for him now.
Who hasn't at least tried weed?

I haven't. Just don't care to, and I HATE the smell of it.


I second that.

I can't wait for the hilarity that people like Gbaji and possibly Theifx will say about this. Should be at least mildly amusing.
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I can't wait for the hilarity that people like Gbaji and possibly Theifx will say about this. Should be at least mildly amusing.

Umm, where were you 4 years ago? This is not a new revelation. The only thing to say about any of it is that the lack of coverage given to the things that the President admits to in his own books (and reads himself for the audiobooks) is shameful when compared to the coverage similar rumors about other sitting presidents and candidates receive.
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The only thing to say about any of it is that the lack of coverage given to the things that the President admits to in his own books (and reads himself for the audiobooks) is shameful when compared to the coverage similar rumors about other sitting presidents and candidates receive.

Why waste time covering the drug habits of immigrants?
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I've never smoked either. I don't have anything against it, but the illegality, the difficulty of procurement (compared to picking up a beer from the local store), and the social stigma are enough to keep me disinterested.

Alcohol takes care of any need that pot would hypothetically address. I don't really need another vice.
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The only thing to say about any of it is that the lack of coverage given to the things that the President admits to in his own books (and reads himself for the audiobooks) is shameful when compared to the coverage similar rumors about other sitting presidents and candidates receive.
Not really much of a story to someone admitting to something as there is to one going out of their way to deny it. If you really want to spin it negatively, just call it a ploy made up by the administration to show the President better relates to the youth vote.

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Kuwoobie wrote:
Oh wow. Obama use to smoke weed? I'm totally not voting for him now.
Who hasn't at least tried weed?

I haven't. Just don't care to, and I HATE the smell of it.


I'm one of those weird people that actually really like the smell of pot.

It makes my mom sleepy too. That's weird. I thought she was just strange.
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I'm one of those weird people that actually really like the smell of pot.


Me too. Love everything about it actually.

I'd love to see it legalized, then controlled, taxed, and sold like liquor(in Canada(or at least Ontario, notsure about elsewhere), where you have to go to a licensed liquor store to get it and be 19(18 in some provinces)). But that's unrealistic, despite the logic.

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It makes my mom sleepy too. That's weird. I thought she was just strange.


It's possible that it could just be the type they've tried. Not all marijuana is the same. But, then again, it's not for everyone.

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#27 May 27 2012 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
Could be, but she had the reaction when she tried it as a teenager, and she had the same reaction when she tried it again as an adult a few years back. I doubt they were the same type, but you never know.

I have noticed I get different effects too. Some of it makes me really laid back and like "woah dude!" and some of it has the same effect as alcohol: makes me giggly and hyper and horny. >.>
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I tried it once, spent so much time coughing I failed to notice any high, and added it to the "Catwho does not need to be involved with this substance" list which already included cigarettes and all other drugs higher on the food chain than pot.

I toyed with the idea of the non-inhaled format, but then Amsterdam cracked down on it so that's also out. (Also, I have heard a horror story from a friend that involved pot brownies and a giant pink penguin, which gives me pause in regards to trying them even if the opportunity presents itself.)

As for the "intercepted" joke... I got nothing.
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You know, I've smoked quite a bit of pot in my adult life, mainly for medicinal purposes, and I just want to let everyone know that... wait, what were we talking about again?
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I have never tried weed, but I have recently decided that I would like to try some sort of edible. I do not wish to smoke it.
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All that ever happened when I got high in college involved pizza and Family Guy. Sometimes I wish I could have had the mind-expanding experiences that others describe, but mostly pot just made me super focused and quiet.
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Put me in the sleepy camp, too. That's all pot ever did for me. Well, it gave me dry mouth too. Yay!
#33 May 27 2012 at 4:52 PM Rating: Good
I've always had a very positive and enjoyable reaction to the stuff. If I could get it legally I honestly think I'd never drink again.

I can't smoke it due to my work, which sucks, as it has a persistent chronic pain reduction/anti-spasmotic action that will last for several days after even a very modest intake (a couple of puffs would provide relief for two to three days).

It was nice for DingartTM creation, too, as I focused better on that particular task. I'm not saying using made them better, mind you, it just made for better concentration.
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Same for me, but only for about 30-60 minutes, then it's sleepy time.
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#36 May 28 2012 at 1:34 AM Rating: Good
I'm what you would call a heavy user (About 1/8th a week. Maybe more, maybe less, depending on the law of the diminishing sacks). Granted, I've done so for about 15 years or so - so my tolerance is quite high.

Quite simply, it enhances various things, helps you not care about various symptoms (The stabbing pain behind my eyes I get during migraines, for one) while certainly not curing anything, & it helps you to not be bored. I played FFXI for 3 years, quit smoking for 8 months (For a girl whom later dumped me), & quit FFXI around the same time as I realized just how boring it was.

Depending on if it's indoor or outdoor (How it's grown + it's quality) it either makes me happy or "hyper focused". Sometimes it makes me sleepy. It doesn't really make me cough anymore nor have I really ever been super paranoid because of it. It will increase your heart rate & enhances anything else you might also be on. Because I smoke habitually, I drink alcohol less as 3 beers for me is like 6 for a non smoker.

Like Earth, its mostly harmless.
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This thread is all about pot use now, huh?

A high school friend of mine became a huge pothead while studying abroad in Europe during college. After graduating he went home and lived with his parents for about three years, keeping small part-time jobs and spending a good deal of his money on pot (according to him, overpriced, underpowered... but any port in a storm, right?).

Last year he moved to Colorado, which regulates pot heavily but allows it to be legally sold. He got a job as a medical marijuana dispensary and now says "the only reason I don't smoke more than I do is because I already spend all my money on it." He has an addictive personality anyway, but it's pretty sad. People who say "You can't get addicted to pot!" are either lying, or misrepresenting by not mentioning "... but you can get addicted to feeling high."

I've done it from time to time; my main issues are:
1. Don't care for the smell. I used to HATE it, but now it's not too bad.
2. My friends don't smoke, so I don't feel the urge to
3. I have no idea where to buy it from, how to check for quality, etc etc.
4. If you're hunting for a job, you need to stop weeks in advance so it won't show on drug tests.

All that said, my experiences with it have gone from "OH MU GOD I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK, I"M GOING TO DIE" (first time, when I ate WAY too many brownies), to "Eh, this just makes it hard to function and I cough a lot" (when I would smoke with my friends from high school and college), to "Hey, this isn't half bad" (present feeling as I use a vaporizer which eliminates the coughing and smell, and especially after I discovered how it can positively affect ***).
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There's a difference between physical and mental addiction, though. When people say you can't get addicted to pot, they're talking purely physical addiction.

The distinction is important because a physical addiction WILL occur with repeated use, where a mental addiction occurs on a person by person basis.

That's not to say mental addictions aren't a serious problem--just like with physical addictions, they can range from extreme (gambling, cocaine) to the minor (cigarettes, caffeine). Generally speaking, physical addictions are worse, simply because the addiction is generally part of a process that is actually altering the way your brain functions. But both are problematic, and can often be extremely similar. In many cases, they don't seem different at all until you begin to consider how to treat them.

The problem with saying "X is addictive" when discussing mental addictions is because literally ANYTHING can be addictive in that fashion. As a result, you typically only save the word for the statistically significant addictions, where a prominent number of users develop one, or the extremely destructive addictions, like gambling.

So yeah, pot can be addictive. But it's addictive in the same way that cracking your knuckles, biting your nails, or smoking cigarettes are. And I'm willing to bet that cigarettes have a much higher chance of destroying your life than pot does.
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I cross the border way too much, I don't want any residue anywhere for the TSA to detect.

I lived in Amsterdam for a year, and smoked fairly casually while there. Some of the people in my program smoked constantly, but while I enjoyed it, I didn't like what it did to my motivation if I smoked more then once a week. Since I've come back to Canada, I think I've smoked two or three times at most. Almost none of my friends smoke, so it just doesn't come up, and now there are other reasons to avoid it.
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Smoked it in college. It was pretty like like a "good drunk" without the negative alcohol side effects. I never purchased it or actively looked for any, I just always knew people who'd bust it out and offer. The most paraphernalia I owned was a ****** home-made clay pipe with a faucet filter screen. Once I left college I had no drive or interest in seeking out any new sources or paying money for it.

I'm pretty neutral on legalization tilting towards "no". Only because I don't care to smoke it again and I don't see any personal positive impact of upping the chances that any person I'm dealing with might be stoned. I wouldn't bother to fight against it though.
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I'll give it a yay vote when they find a way to easily test someone to see if they're driving under the influence.
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#42 May 28 2012 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
They told us in high school that if you're high, you can still fail a breathilizer test. I don't like driving while intoxicated of any sort, so I never bothered to look in to whether that's true or not. People are going to drive while stoned whether pot is illegal or not. I don't see the point in making that your bone of contention.

I haven't smoked pot regularly now in six or seven years, but I am still very much for legalizing it. I just think it's stupid that it's illegal. It's actually less harmful for you than cigarettes are, since there isn't all that extra chemical crap in it. And pot heads are about as dangerous as wet kittens, when compared to alcoholics. Plus hemp can be made into tons of different useful products, and while hemp isn't illegal, I think it'd be a lot easier to produce if pot wasn't illegal.
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People are going to drive while stoned whether pot is illegal or not. I don't see the point in making that your bone of contention.
I'm going to let you think on this a little longer before I explain it.
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People are going to drive while stoned whether pot is illegal or not. I don't see the point in making that your bone of contention.

Unless you think the number of people smoking weed will remain constant whether it's legal or not, this is a perfectly valid point of contention.
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This might potentially be a great reason to make cigarettes illegal. It's a terrible reason (by itself) to make pot legal.

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Jophiel wrote:
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People are going to drive while stoned whether pot is illegal or not. I don't see the point in making that your bone of contention.

Unless you think the number of people smoking weed will remain constant whether it's legal or not, this is a perfectly valid point of contention.

You're forgetting that when you're stoned, you're too demotivated to drive. Or walk. Or move. The couch is your home.


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It's been my personal experience that, as long as you are moderately coherent, many cops don't care if you're driving high. I mean, there is a difference between having a nice buzz on and being catatonic, but a half-smoked roach will get thrown to the side of the road whereas a half-drunk beer will land you in the slammer.
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It's been my personal experience that, as long as you are moderately coherent, many cops don't care if you're driving high. I mean, there is a difference between having a nice buzz on and being catatonic, but a half-smoked roach will get thrown to the side of the road whereas a half-drunk beer will land you in the slammer.



I'll take your word for it, but it's certainly not that way everywhere.

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People are going to drive while stoned whether pot is illegal or not. I don't see the point in making that your bone of contention.

Unless you think the number of people smoking weed will remain constant whether it's legal or not, this is a perfectly valid point of contention.
I can't be ***** to look it up right now but I'm pretty sure that pot use here where it's more or less legal is lower than it is in the US.

The main reasons for making it legal for me would be the fact that you're taking away a lot of funding from gangs, get to control the quality and get to tax the **** out of it. Not to mention the tons of money you'd save on all the people you wouldn't have to put in jail.
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The question would be whether it's lower in your country now than it was pre-legalization, not to compare your use to that in the US.
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