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The US was never getting their monies worth. But, since 2009, we've approached it with much more of a "We paid and now we're going to act" attitude and stepped up the drone strikes and actions against the Pakistani protests taking out a considerable number of targets. And, of course, the bin Laden mission. Which is what this doctor thing is really all about -- Pakistan was globally embarrassed over the obvious failures of their intelligence, the probable fact that portions of their government were in collusion with Al'Qaeda to hide/not act on bin Laden's whereabouts and that the US took him out on Pakistani soil unilaterally.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
The US was never getting their monies worth. But, since 2009, we've approached it with much more of a "We paid and now we're going to act" attitude and stepped up the drone strikes and actions against the Pakistani protests taking out a considerable number of targets. And, of course, the bin Laden mission. Which is what this doctor thing is really all about -- Pakistan was globally embarrassed over the obvious failures of their intelligence, the probable fact that portions of their government were in collusion with Al'Qaeda to hide/not act on bin Laden's whereabouts and that the US took him out on Pakistani soil unilaterally.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
I've been saying Pakistan is shit for years and years. I'm hardly surprised; I'm just taking the time to point it out once again.
If it were up to me, we'd take five years worth of "aid" to Pakistan, put it in a suitcase* with a bow and hand it to India just as a "fuck you". The amusement factor of that alone would exceed any value we get from Pakistan.
*We might need a bigger suitcase
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:52pm by Jophiel
If it were up to me, we'd take five years worth of "aid" to Pakistan, put it in a suitcase* with a bow and hand it to India just as a "fuck you". The amusement factor of that alone would exceed any value we get from Pakistan.
*We might need a bigger suitcase
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:52pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
I've been saying Pakistan is shit for years and years. I'm hardly surprised; I'm just taking the time to point it out once again.
If it were up to me, we'd take five years worth of "aid" to Pakistan, put it in a suitcase* with a bow and hand it to India just as a "fuck you". The amusement factor of that alone would exceed any value we get from Pakistan.
*We might need a bigger suitcase
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:52pm by Jophiel
If it were up to me, we'd take five years worth of "aid" to Pakistan, put it in a suitcase* with a bow and hand it to India just as a "fuck you". The amusement factor of that alone would exceed any value we get from Pakistan.
*We might need a bigger suitcase
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:52pm by Jophiel
I'm thinking a few steamer trunks would work.
Looking it up, five years worth of aid would look like this times ten..
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I vote we fly planes, two at a time, over the country every day. One plane drops armed explosives that detonate when opened, the other food and/or money and whatever other aid. All in similar boxes, and in random patterns. Not just for Pakistan, though.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I can understand being frustrated with the lack of cooperation coming from Pakistan given their supposedly friendly stance and the fact the US pays them quite a bit of money. I fail to see how this justifies drone strikes either legally or morally. It seems like a pretty bad idea generally, really.
Reparations!
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Well, they could certainly take a stand by not cashing the checks.
Reparations!
Jophiel wrote:
Looking it up, five years worth of aid would look like this times ten..
Well then it's settled. Load it onto 10 trucks and pay Pakistan $50,000 to let you drive across their country just to add in extra giggles.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
someproteinguy wrote:
Well then it's settled. Load it onto 10 trucks and pay Pakistan $50,000 to let you drive across their country just to add in extra giggles.
Win.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Kavekk wrote:
I fail to see how this justifies drone strikes either legally or morally.
It's much easier to inform a Predator Drone's next of kin about his horrible, untimely demise than it is for live soldiers.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Demea wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
I fail to see how this justifies drone strikes either legally or morally.
It's much easier to inform a Predator Drone's next of kin about his horrible, untimely demise than it is for live soldiers.
****, sorry, I forgot that only Americans are people.
I don't follow. Are you against the drones or the strikes? If a guy in a fighter jet fired off the missiles, would it make a difference?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Yes, because the United States is the only nation in history to incur collateral damage in battle. 
Kavekk wrote:
sh*t, sorry, I forgot that only Americans are people.
Sorry, but the DNA tests were inconclusive.
Perhaps we didn't get a large enough sample size though; I'm sure this misunderstanding could be cleared up by just swabbing a few more individuals. If you could provide those samples that'd be great. Of course, if you're a little short handed we understand, and could recommend a very good doctor to help you out if you'd like.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:18pm by someproteinguy
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
Jophiel wrote:
I don't follow. Are you against the drones or the strikes? If a guy in a fighter jet fired off the missiles, would it make a difference?
Nah, I wouldn't care if the US was using conventional airstrikes to catch criminals. It's the drones' souls I'm worried about.
It's hard enough for a machine to get into heaven as it is.
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Yes, because the United States is the only nation in history to incur collateral damage in battle.
You're not at war with Pakistan.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 7:24pm by Kavekk
Yet.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Kavekk wrote:
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Yes, because the United States is the only nation in history to incur collateral damage in battle.
You're not at war with Pakistan.
We're not at war with anyone. The war on terror is over, remember?
The US has really expensive and ineffective propaganda in the region.
Just as Planned.
Given his job, I take TLW as a credible guy who's workmate told him what his friend told him what his contact told him on this one.
Not at all, it's just common knowledge.
Just as Planned.
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/foreign-aid/229371-senate-cuts-aid-to-pakistan-by-33-million-in-retaliation-for-tribal-court-ruling-in-bin-laden-case
Finally, strong action in response to Pakisan's shenanigans. Then again...
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Senate appropriators unanimously voted Thursday to cut Pakistani aid by $33 million, or $1 million for every year a Pakistani doctor will spend in prison for helping the CIA find Osama bin Laden.
Finally, strong action in response to Pakisan's shenanigans. Then again...
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The cut represents about 4 percent of the $800 million set aside for Pakistan next fiscal year...
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
That'll learn them.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Face it, the USA is pouring trillions of dollars all over the middle eastern and Central Asian region in order to set up the world chess board to secure ongoing flows of crude oil out of and piped across those places.
If only the US was pouring a sizable fraction of that into getting economies of scale in renewable energy alternatives that are source-able within your own nation. For instance, large scale algae farms that can be grown in tanks on marginal land, and directly used in cars, trucks and aeroplanes as an alternative to "gas".
Edited, May 24th 2012 3:55pm by Aripyanfar
If only the US was pouring a sizable fraction of that into getting economies of scale in renewable energy alternatives that are source-able within your own nation. For instance, large scale algae farms that can be grown in tanks on marginal land, and directly used in cars, trucks and aeroplanes as an alternative to "gas".
Edited, May 24th 2012 3:55pm by Aripyanfar
Aripyanfar wrote:
Face it, the USA is pouring trillions of dollars all over the middle eastern and Central Asian region in order to set up the world chess board to secure ongoing flows of crude oil out of and piped across those places.
If only the US was pouring a sizable fraction of that into getting economies of scale in renewable energy alternatives that are source-able within your own nation. For instance, large scale algae farms that can be grown in tanks on marginal land, and directly used in cars, trucks and aeroplanes as an alternative to "gas".
If only the US was pouring a sizable fraction of that into getting economies of scale in renewable energy alternatives that are source-able within your own nation. For instance, large scale algae farms that can be grown in tanks on marginal land, and directly used in cars, trucks and aeroplanes as an alternative to "gas".
Ah yes! The "If only we did <this other thing that I haven't thought through>, everything would be perfect!" argument. An oldie, but a goodie.
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