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#77 May 04 2012 at 9:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Why must you squash my dreams? Smiley: frown
I have a feeling the silicone in your dreams would be hard to quash.

Nah, no silicone, those things are yucky.


Edited, May 4th 2012 8:23am by someproteinguy
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#78 May 04 2012 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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Silicone just don't jiggle well. Smiley: frown

Edited, May 4th 2012 11:36am by lolgaxe
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Men compete as well, but men tend to compete outside of their social group while women compete inside their social group. So male competition tends to be more forceful and final since they generally don't have to makeup with the people they're competing with. Men conform for the sake of cooperation, maintaining the "man card" to reduce conflict within their social group and ensure unit cohesion when it's needed. Keep in mind I'm not talking about playing football with your buddies here, that's just practice for the real competition.

Women compete more within their own social circle, they tend to be less cohesive as a whole but have very tight but transient relationships with sections of their social circle. Women cooperate for the sake of conformity, supporting each other so everyone can have the same lifestyle.

Very different outlooks, both of which are geared to survival in traditional roles (male = hunter, female = homemaker). Neither is better than the other until you apply them to role specific tasks pre-modern civilization. We may no longer define these roles by gender as a general rule but it takes time for instincts to change and traditions to dissipate so I don't expect the generally applicable stereotypes to change for quite some time. Men will be subjects to their "Manhood" for many centuries to come and women will have to play politics with their friends for the foreseeable future.

Age, wisdom, social advances all temper this, which is partially why older women have fewer conflicts and older men have fewer friends and why everyone refers to high school when talking about drama in their lives. Maturity is really just our ability to override instinct and some people are better at it than others.
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I don't agree with that. I've seen groups of men in the professional world who commonly rip on whoever is absent from their circle at that time. Then, when that guy gets there and another guy is absent, they all rip on him. As long as you're there, it's all jokes and happiness; once you're out of the room, it's all about what a fucking ****** you are. Not much better than your average high school cheerleader coven.
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#81 May 04 2012 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't agree with that. I've seen groups of men in the professional world who commonly rip on whoever is absent from their circle at that time. Then, when that guy gets there and another guy is absent, they all rip on him. As long as you're there, it's all jokes and happiness; once you're out of the room, it's all about what a fucking ****** you are. Not much better than your average high school cheerleader coven.


Perhaps, but then those groups are not the chosen social groups of those individuals (unless they happen to be friends outside of work) which puts them firmly in the "competing with outside parties" role. I personally find the opposite in my work environment, this is an office environment with about a 50/50 male/female split. The women do this, but the men tend to only communicate with or about each other in regards to getting sh*t done or avoiding an obstacle which admittedly CAN be another person but it's typically the same retards we complain about rather than being driven by the convenience of absence.

If I have a problem with a friend I tell him he's being an *******, I don't go to another friend and ***** about him to try and sway social favour. It's not a competition it's and observation and advisement.

Edited, May 4th 2012 12:36pm by Yodabunny
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Eh, I'm not in the mood to get too deep into it (and you don't know the same people so its sort of unfair). I just really disagree based on personal observation.
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Eh, I'm not in the mood to get too deep into it (and you don't know the same people so its sort of unfair). I just really disagree based on personal observation.


Fair enough. Agreed to disagree then Smiley: smile.
#84 May 04 2012 at 11:08 AM Rating: Excellent
What the **** is this conciliatory ************ Smiley: disappointed
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#85 May 04 2012 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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What the @#%^ is this conciliatory bullsh*t??!? Smiley: disappointed
Girly speak, if you ask me.
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What the @#%^ is this conciliatory bullsh*t??!? Smiley: disappointed
Girly speak, if you ask me.


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#87 May 04 2012 at 11:54 AM Rating: Excellent
There are certain "types" of people who still engage in that sort of behavior after high school. It really depends on the individual. ****, my friends in high school didn't even do that **** to each other, but I did observe it quite a bit in other circles.

Then again, maybe I've just watched too much TV and/or movies. I see that kind of **** all the time in mainstream TV and movies. Especially the whole "My man cheated on me! That *****, I'll kill her!" attitude. That's always infuriated me. Your man cheats on you, so you get mad at the other woman? That's just stupid. Maybe she didn't know about you? Get mad at HIM, he's the one who actually did something wrong.
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#92 May 04 2012 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
someproteinguy wrote:
Everyone gets older but we don't all grow up?

I'm really trying hard not to grow up, but people keep telling me I am :(
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#93 May 04 2012 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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So here I am,
growing older all the time,
looking older all the time,
feeling younger in my mind.
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#94 May 04 2012 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
I still look like I'm 16, so I figure that gives me a good excuse to not grow up. I'm basing that on what other people have said to me btw, I don't think I look like I'm 16.
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Yodabunny wrote:
Men compete as well, but men tend to compete outside of their social group while women compete inside their social group. So male competition tends to be more forceful and final since they generally don't have to makeup with the people they're competing with. Men conform for the sake of cooperation, maintaining the "man card" to reduce conflict within their social group and ensure unit cohesion when it's needed. Keep in mind I'm not talking about playing football with your buddies here, that's just practice for the real competition.

Women compete more within their own social circle, they tend to be less cohesive as a whole but have very tight but transient relationships with sections of their social circle. Women cooperate for the sake of conformity, supporting each other so everyone can have the same lifestyle.

Very different outlooks, both of which are geared to survival in traditional roles (male = hunter, female = homemaker). Neither is better than the other until you apply them to role specific tasks pre-modern civilization. We may no longer define these roles by gender as a general rule but it takes time for instincts to change and traditions to dissipate so I don't expect the generally applicable stereotypes to change for quite some time. Men will be subjects to their "Manhood" for many centuries to come and women will have to play politics with their friends for the foreseeable future.

Age, wisdom, social advances all temper this, which is partially why older women have fewer conflicts and older men have fewer friends and why everyone refers to high school when talking about drama in their lives. Maturity is really just our ability to override instinct and some people are better at it than others.
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#96 May 04 2012 at 2:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
Everyone gets older but we don't all grow up?
A social worker friend of mine brought this up just the other day, commenting that her parents were from the Mad Men generation, that they worked and raised kids and pretty much were "grown up" 24/7. She and her husband were having a Star Wars marathon and getting ready to game a little later and she realized her parents never did anything like that, so seemingly juvenile. It was thought-provoking. I certainly feel like my marriage is much less serious (yet somehow more solid) than my parents'.
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#97 May 04 2012 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
I've seen groups of men in the professional world who commonly rip on whoever is absent from their circle at that time.

Whoever is absent? Sounds like women. I was going to make the same response to Lolgaxe, that guys pretty much rip on each other merely because an opportunity presents itself. However, I don't know many guys who bother trying to do it behind someone's back. All of my friends rip on each other face to face, because it's funnier when the victim is there.
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I know it sounds like women. That was sort of the point.
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Does your wife know you've been hanging out with a bunch of strange women?
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