When Kids Break the Law.....Follow

Subjugated penguins, hmmm.

Maybe schools could be staffed with children with man-catcher staffs.

Where's your God now, roid-raging six year old girl???

He was raging the day they taught vowels in kindergarten and had to be arrested. Now the phrase "...and sometimes y" is hollow and empty to his soul.

My Mom, whom was a special Ed teacher in the 90s, learned all sorts of restraints & holds after a kid 'sperged out & bit her. She learned them on the taxpayers dime, too, since they were skills she needed to know to effectively deal with some of her Autistic students. While I'm sure a potential lawsuit was very much on the school districts minds, they also have to make sure their teachers are safe too, right?

I chalk this up to no one in the school district wanting to get their hands dirty, or no one on site was properly trained on how to safely restrain a child. They should fix that.

As far as I know CPR has a 5% success rate. As far as I know there are instances of medical personnel or civilians working for up to hours to resuscitate drowned or otherwise dead people. In the cases where brain injury is highly likely, I don't know whether that's a good thing. But in the cases of very cold water or other bodily preservatives, I really respect the people who can go at a corpse for more than a few minutes, for that magic 5% chance of reviving them and saving their life.

Avoid frivolous lawsuits. Child-catchers are made specially for school-kids - they leave no marks and are bubblegum flavored.

In these cases the CPR isn't performed to revive them. It's done to keep blood going to the brain until advanced medical care arrives - to revive them.

Teachers can't punch their kids in the face, but can and should be able to restrain a 6 year old safely (And often times Do) if the child is a danger to themselves or others.

They won't win a lawsuit, in this instance. It just shows incompetence on a bunch of levels.

BAD TOUCH!

Because none of the others (except perhaps the grandmother) take on a legal responsibility for the child as a pseudo-guardian and therefore are held to even the most absurd standard that any random parent might insist that their child must receive in terms of treatment norms. Add to that the fact that K-12 education is mandated. Parents must send their child to school (or meet homeschooling requirements). So unlike a doctor which you might choose, or karate instructor, or even a trip to grandma's, the parents are effectively being forced to hand their children over to the school for a period of time.



Do what? Do you know any K-12 teachers? Go ask them what the rules are in terms of touching students. And I don't mean molesting. Can't touch them on the shoulder. Can't touch them when consoling them. Certainly, can't touch them as any part of any discipline. One of the hardest things for grade school teachers to deal with is the fact that kids in those grade levels (especially about 2-5) love to run up and hug their teachers. But every one of those teachers knows that they are subject to potential lawsuit every single time it happens. What are they supposed to do? Push the child away?

And physical contact during any form of discipline is right out the window. You can do this if you are handling special ed kids (sometimes), but the school knows it's a risk. For random teachers? Bad idea. Even in situations where two kids are in a fight and a teacher attempts to pull them apart, they're setting themselves up for risk of lawsuit. I didn't respond to Smash's little diatribe because I assumed that everyone could see he's just BSing. Sometimes it's easier to just let him continue with his little delusions. But don't for a moment think that teachers are not under extreme pressure from the schools to avoid physical contact with students at all costs.


And that's exactly why we have schools calling the police. The police department is far more protected from lawsuit for engaging in actions like this than the schools. That sucks and all, but that's just the way things are.

My mom, also a special education teacher, learned the same holds, same way. In fact, in her school, and I believe in my children's school down here, only those teachers who are trained in these holds are allowed to try and restrain an out of control child. Hence, why, if there are no teachers who know these holds, the police can be called.

That's completely fallacious.

You would think so.

Exactly. And while you're likely to have those resources at the high school level, it's not hard to believe that many grade schools may not have anyone who's trained/qualified to do that. It depends on how the state system is set up, and even how the districts are set up, but unless they have some kind of early immersion program in place, it's not uncommon for special needs and/or critical skills kids to be in separate grade schools. And in those cases, the regular grade schools will not have the means to deal with the rare unruly kid except to call the police (or take action and risk lawsuit).


I just think that many people have no clue what sorts of constraints are placed on teachers these days.

Cause a lot less potential permanent damage if they just tase them.

Well, I believe Duct tape is out.................I miss the good old days