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#127 Apr 25 2012 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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Who knows, I have a 4 and 5 year old running around in the background.
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#128 Apr 25 2012 at 6:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Doesn't Wynne shout at you a couple times mid-fight to use it?

Pffttt... broads say a lot of things. Who can keep track?

I'm playing Awakenings and feeling the lack of decent NPC personalities. Whatever core Oghren had that made me like him in DA:O was stripped out and now he's the comic-tard that others say they hate him for in Origins. The apostate mage isn't fit to carry Morrigan's socks. I picked up some rogue so maybe he'll be bearable. This seems to be a theme in the DLC as I can't think of a single NPC outside the core game that was memorable, much less likable. The elf from Witch Hunt had one good line...
Ask her about my book!
...and that was it. I'd rather travel with Wynne, Alistair and Zevran than this bunch of losers.

Also, as long as I'm ********* I picked some power that enhanced my Arcane Shield and now it throws off giant blackish waves of energy. Unless I stop and turn off my sustainables talking to anyone is like watching them from across a large grill between the smokey particle effects and "air ripples". If they can lose my helm during those scenes, they should be able to lose the spell effects.

Edited, Apr 25th 2012 7:54am by Jophiel
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#129 Apr 25 2012 at 7:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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I agree that Awakenings lacks the character depth of Origins. I liked Anders as a healer, and he was probably my favorite of the new characters that you can recruit. I'm not sure why you couldn't choose which Origins companion to bring with you. Oghren was my least favorite, maybe because I tend to recruit him last. Or maybe because the drunken dwarf thing is just kinda overdone.

I like the dwarf rogue you can recruit in Awakenings, though. At least she has a little bit of depth.
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#130 Apr 25 2012 at 8:00 AM Rating: Good
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Also, as long as I'm ********* I picked some power that enhanced my Arcane Shield and now it throws off giant blackish waves of energy. Unless I stop and turn off my sustainables talking to anyone is like watching them from across a large grill between the smokey particle effects and "air ripples". If they can lose my helm during those scenes, they should be able to lose the spell effects.


I pretty much got into the habit of stripping 2-3 specific sustainables on my Arcane Mage for converstaions. It actually got me dizzy if the conversation was too long. I wonder if there's a mod to turn the effects off?

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I agree that Awakenings lacks the character depth of Origins. I liked Anders as a healer, and he was probably my favorite of the new characters that you can recruit.


I hated Anders in Awakening, but it made me like him in DA2 (because I realized how much less annoying he became).

And yeah, Awakenings characters are the primary reason I found the expansion completely disappointing. The only characters I kinda liked were Justice and Sigrun. Except she didn't really have much of a character beyond "Can I go die now? Smiley: smile" and I only liked him for letting me learn about the Fade/Spirits.

Ohgren was especially bad. They not only vamped up his lecherous drunkenness, but they also added abandonment of family to the mix. Every single time he talked in Awakening, I had to suppress my desire to facepalm.
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#131 Apr 25 2012 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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I've enjoyed Anders so far (which isn't long since i decided to go back and reply Origins). I've spent a fair bit of time laughing at him. I enjoy pulling out the Sir Pounce-A-Lot gift.
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#132 Apr 25 2012 at 8:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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I felt that Origins Oghren at least had some depth. He's lost his wife and House and knows that he's a big fuck up but tries to soldier on the only way he knows how: booze, bluster and crude jokes. You end the game feeling like he's on the cusp of at least solving the "big fuck up" part and making a new start on the surface.

In Awakenings, he's just Beavis but with red hair.

I did like in Origins how he said that dwarven booze sucks compared to surface booze. At least that old trope was reversed.

I'm also still annoyed at Alistair's cameo which amounts to "Oh, uh, hey... I know you... I guess. Ok, gotta run." Speaking of, what's with the king humping all the way out there from Denerim just to spend two minutes before turning around to go home? Are they the only place that sells the cigarettes he likes or something?

Edit: I'm still early in so haven't met some of the NPCs others referenced. Just me, Anders, Howe, pseudo-Oghren and the memories of Mhaririranaiaiai. You will not be forgotten.

Edited, Apr 25th 2012 9:08am by Jophiel
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#133 Apr 25 2012 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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Alistair is dead. The queen rules.
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#134 Apr 25 2012 at 8:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Huh. She really let herself go in that case. Her new haircut does NOT do her justice.
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#135 Apr 25 2012 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Just me, Anders, Howe, pseudo-Oghren and the memories of Mhaririranaiaiai.

I loathe Anders.

My biggest complaint about DA2 is that he's a primary party member, and the primary healer (unless you play Hawke as one, which is uberlame).
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#136 Apr 25 2012 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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Huh. She really let herself go in that case. Her new haircut does NOT do her justice.


Don't tell Justice that. He'll kill her stylist.
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#137 Apr 25 2012 at 8:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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You all have got me playing through again. Bastards.

This time I'm making all the choices I didn't make before. I've destroyed the tower, killed the elves, and when I get to the end.... well, I'm gonna do something radical.
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#138 Apr 25 2012 at 9:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Join the blight!
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when I get to the end.... well, I'm gonna do something radical.
Something like dying because you can't solo the end?
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#140 Apr 25 2012 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Possibly! Or maybe I WILL solo the end, you don't know. Smiley: mad

And Joph - there is a mod to remove annoying effects. It's called something like Annoyance Remover.
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#141 Apr 25 2012 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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You all have got me playing through again. Bastards.

This time I'm making all the choices I didn't make before. I've destroyed the tower, killed the elves, and when I get to the end.... well, I'm gonna do something radical.


You aren't going to make Alistair kill the demon, are you? Smiley: frown
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#142 Apr 25 2012 at 9:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm going to make Dog-Dog kill the archdemon. And then grab that sword in his mouth and run under its neck. I figure he's bitten enough darkspawn to be a Grey Warden.
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#143 Apr 25 2012 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
You all have got me playing through again. Bastards.

This time I'm making all the choices I didn't make before. I've destroyed the tower, killed the elves, and when I get to the end.... well, I'm gonna do something radical.


You aren't going to make Alistair kill the demon, are you? Smiley: frown
How else would you get the queen to come visit you in Vigil's Peak in Awakenings?
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#144 Apr 25 2012 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can force Alistair to leave the party prior to the ending battles. I suppose that would do it.
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#145 Apr 25 2012 at 9:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ohhh, there are options. If you spare Loghain, Alistair will leave the party for good. If he's hardened, and he's already agreed to marry Anora, he will do that but if not then he just leaves, and Anora retains the throne. If that's the way you go, Alistair will show up in DA2 as a Grey Warden (hardened) or a drunk (not hardened).
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#146 Apr 25 2012 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
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Too late. He's dead for my DW War. Maybe he'll survive my AW.
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#147 Apr 25 2012 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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I feel like I remember a way to have him appear in DA2 as a warden, but still in a romance with the Warden. But I'm pretty sure sparing Loghain automatically terminates a relationship. The Wiki says there's a fix you can apply to make him acknowledge his relationship with the Warden, as well as his/her final fate, but it doesn't go into more detail.
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#148 Apr 25 2012 at 10:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can do that. Kill Loghain, leave Anora on the throne. The Warden and Alistair will still be Grey Wardens.
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Samira wrote:
You can do that. Kill Loghain, leave Anora on the throne. The Warden and Alistair will still be Grey Wardens.

Really? I thought Anora always ordered his execution if he was hardened. I need to experiment with that. :P
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#150 Apr 25 2012 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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I never hardened him and she didn't kill him. No idea how hardening him changes that.
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Tougher to cut his head off, obviously. Duh. Smiley: rolleyes
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